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  1. ValentineMommy

    pomelo / 5791 posts

    PS love all your pups! We have a 7 year old morkie (maltese yorkie) named Ben.



  2. mrs bunchy

    kiwi / 533 posts

    @TheSwissWifeStyle: would love to see a pic when you get it !!

  3. mrs bunchy

    kiwi / 533 posts

    @ValentineMommy: omg ! Ben is so cute

  4. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @jaguar: Yeah...the upside is that the meds do work for ~80% or more women...just apparently not me. The side effects weren't bad, thankfully. And I guess the meds (believe it or not) are actually supposed to work better, the farther along you are...then again, I guess the actual process could be a LOT worse...

    @travelgirl1: Thank you...I'm definitely working on it. BTW-- I also think it's bizarre how common this is, however also completely taboo. Someone (we?) need/s to fix that...

    @TheSwissWifeStyle: I'm so very frustrated for you... Did they ever pin your RPLs on something particular? Or are they just pretty sure it's a coagulation problem?

    @Crystal:

  5. TheSwissWifeStyle

    nectarine / 2600 posts

    @FliegepilzHut: Thanks. No, not yet I couldn't even get an appointment with my doctor because she's on vacation! So I'll see her next Monday, when I assume she'll do my follicle scan for this cycle..

  6. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @simplyfelicity: Is there anything specific? (My post here was pretty complete, I thought, with regards to my m/c's. I go on in more self-pitying detail in My Miscarriage Rant... ) More than happy to clarify...DH and I have been married a really long time-- almost 8 years-- but only started TTC in 2011, not quite 3 years ago.

  7. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @TheSwissWifeStyle: Ugh. Keep your hopes alive...even if it's just a tiny little ember that you can fan back to life when the need arises. I have every faith that we will all be parents one day...it's just going to take a lot more work (and patience) than any of us ever anticipated. Hope that you have a good meeting with your dr. next week! I'll be thinking of you...

  8. TheSwissWifeStyle

    nectarine / 2600 posts

    @FliegepilzHut: Thanks!

  9. simplyfelicity

    cantaloupe / 6634 posts

    @FliegepilzHut: Oh, no, sorry for the confusion! You posted earlier that you thought everyone had heard your story and I was saying that I was glad you shared because I didn't know it. Does that make sense?

  10. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @mrs bunchy: I so hope that you have plenty of time to heal...and that your hysteroscopy gives you the answers you need. Thinking of you!

  11. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @simplyfelicity: Of course...sorry for the crossed signals!

  12. snowjewelz

    wonderful kiwi / 23653 posts

    Whenever I see your posts I just have to come in and send some

  13. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @snowjewelz: Was that to me? If so, thank you very much.

  14. snowjewelz

    wonderful kiwi / 23653 posts

    @FliegepilzHut: To you and too all these wonderful ladies

  15. ValentineMommy

    pomelo / 5791 posts

    @mrs bunchy: Thank you!!

  16. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @snowjewelz: Again, thanks!

  17. aegie

    clementine / 806 posts

    1. What is your story?
    I found out at our 20 week anatomy ultrasound that we lost our baby girl. We did a fetal test after my D&E to see if there were any abnormalities but it came back negative. Apparantly she was "healthy" but something just made her heart stop. I think this is what's so hard on me. If it was a chromosomal issue, I would chalk it up to ... it happens. It's better this way because she wouldn't have a good quality of life otherwise. But to hear that "there was nothing wrong" is absolutely heartbreaking. I can't help but blame myself for waking up in the middle of the night to find myself sleeping on my back. Or for that cup of coffee I couldn't resist. Or picking up my 2 year old too many times.

    2. How do you feel today? I have good days and bad days. Today is a good day in that I haven't broken down in tears just thinking about other pregnant friends.

    3. If you have any "next steps" what are they? As soon as I get my next cycle ... which I have no idea when that will be since my milk came in and I've been dealing with trying to dry up ... i want to start trying again. I feel like my healing will really begin once I'm pregnant again. Although, I probably wont' be able to enjoy it without freaking out over every little thing. To go 21 weeks and find out your baby passed is so traumatizing. As soon as I hit 12 weeks, I really thought I was "out of the woods" ...

    4. Is there something else in your life you are "investing" in? My 2 year old. Thank goodness for my 2 year old miracle! I had such a text book pregnancy with her, I really took it for granted how special and amazing it is to have a healthy baby growing inside you.

  18. 2PeasinaPod

    pomelo / 5524 posts

    So many hugs to all of you!

    1. What is your story? Miscarriage in June 2011...saw the baby's heartbeat at 7 weeks...was very weak, and then nothing at 8 weeks. Had a D&C since I wasn't miscarrying naturally. Chemical pregnancy in November of 2011. Got pregnant with LO naturally in January of 2012. Repeat of our first miscarriage in September 2013 including another D&C. Most recent miscarriage 2 weeks ago.

    2. How do you feel today? All over the place. One minute, I'm fine, the next I'm anxious and freaking out.

    3. If you have any "next steps" what are they? Heading to a RE on Thursday. After my OB kept telling me that my miscarriages were a fluke, I finally insisted when I saw him after #4.

    4. Is there something else in your life you are "investing" in? LO for sure. He is my miracle that somehow happened between my miscarriages and I thank God for him every day

  19. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @aegie: I am so sorry...I know we shouldn't compare, but that seems to me like one of the most devastating forms of loss... Give yourself lots of time and headspace to heal. And give your 2-year-old some extra snuggles! Thinking of you!

    @2PeasinaPod: I'm so sorry you've been through all that. I sincerely hope that the RE can help you to get some good answers! And please let me know if there's anything I can do to help!

  20. 2PeasinaPod

    pomelo / 5524 posts

    @aegie: I'm so sorry. Please don't blame yourself. It could have been any number of things that were completely out of your control. Sending lots of love

    @FliegepilzHut: Thank you! And I've come to terms that if S is it, he's a wonderful little guy, and I'm ok with that.

  21. aegie

    clementine / 806 posts

    @FliegepilzHut: @2PeasinaPod: Thank you ladies. It's so much easier to share with those who can empathize. I know in my head that there was probably nothing I could have done to change what happened, but it's so hard to convince my heart of that. I'm always thinking about, "I shouldn't have done this or I should have done this more ..." and I think that is what makes me so emotional. We heard her heartbeat at our 16 week appointment and everything seemed to be going business as usual ... so to find out so abruptly without any warning was devastating. Thank you ladies for giving me a safe place to share.

  22. Tidybee

    nectarine / 2834 posts

    @aegie: I agree...it's so much easier to talk to people who know what it's like. My friends and family who have never been through it can say the same thing to me that someone who has been through it and it's so much more comforting coming from the person who knows what it is like.
    I feel like I've even lost 2 friendships because of this. Both girls I'm extremely close to (in both of their weddings and them in mine). One is due at the same time I'd be due with mc #1 and he other just had her second. Both of them have known about Both miscarriages and I've even talked about the miscarriages around them. The conversations were morelike - well now that im not pregnant, or how nice the staff was at the local hospital. And they haven't said anything to me, like I'm sorry...how are you feeling...nothing. I know it puts them in a weird position but they have never even acknowledged that I lost both pregnancies. It has made me so sad but also really angry. I'm not quite sure how to even move forward.

  23. 2PeasinaPod

    pomelo / 5524 posts

    @Tidybee: This is probably my most frustrating part. It's like, now that I've had 4, the people who know just stopped checking in on me. And that just makes me feel like I'm some sort of disease that they want no part of. Blah.

  24. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @aegie: I wish you weren't feeling that way. If they weren't able to find any reason...it was with near-complete certainty nothing that you did...or didn't do. FWIW-- I made myself crazy after my first m/c, thinking "what if I killed my baby with mercury (in the fish/shellfish I ate at the beach)? It took a really long time to get over that, even after multiple doctors and nurses said, "no, that's not really possible..." I still have twinges sometimes, when I think "what if?"

    @Tidybee: That's a really tough situation. Do you feel angry enough that you can't really be around them right now? Sad enough that it's too hard to be around your pregnant friend/your friend's new baby? At some point, I think you really ought to let them know that you would've really appreciated some extra support in there...and that you appreciate how hard it might've been for them to acknowledge your loss while being hopeful about their own pregnancies...even though that's not right. I hope that makes sense...

  25. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @2PeasinaPod: That makes me angry on your behalf. Do they just not know what to say? I have some friends who've been very respectful of my privacy...but as soon as I've reached out, they've offered lots of support. Sometimes, I feel like you need to "prime the pump" or just ask specifically to get the recognition and care that you need.

  26. aegie

    clementine / 806 posts

    @Tidybee: I understand .... I really really do. Even when close family members try to sympathize or when close friends try to get me to open up, it's hard. Because it's a mix of emotions. There are moments when I'm numb and I don't have anything to say. There are moments when I'm completely overwhelmed with grief. There are moments when I absolutely do not want to talk about it ... and it's hard for those who love you to understand those emotions. And I can see how friendships can be lost. I've just made it clear to my friends and family that unless I bring it up ... please refrain from bringing it up. Because it's just really too hard to talk about it if I'm not willing to talk about it.

    @FliegepilzHut: I know ... I know I shouldn't feel that way ... and in some strange way, I feel like until I get pregnant again and I "prove" to myself that I can have another healthy live birth, I feel consumed with fear that it will never happen again. I know it's irrational ... and I know I should be happy with my LO that's already with me ... but I'm grieving the loss of a baby PLUS the fear of not having another healthy live baby. I think the fear is more crippling.

  27. 2PeasinaPod

    pomelo / 5524 posts

    @FliegepilzHut: It might be. I had a friend who emailed me immediately after I told her that I had my most recent miscarriage and asked me if I felt pressure to get pregnant before I turned 35 b/c the clock is a-tickin! Maybe she was trying to be funny, but I just didn't see the humor.

  28. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @2PeasinaPod: Ugh. Just ugh.

  29. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @aegie: Sending lots and lots of love and hugs! I'm sure you can, and will. Take all the time you need and get your feelings and fears out there.

  30. Jess1483

    nectarine / 2641 posts

    @simplyfelicity: Thanks for the advice. I actually feel like my body has done it's job well with this miscarriage. I passed all tissue my first day and now it's just like a (really long) period. I'm hoping that helps my doctor feel like I'll be ready to try soon. I'll definitely wait for one real period first, though. DH and I have decided to commemorate our LO's life in a couple ways: 1. We will plant something special in our yard and 2. I will get a necklace with a baby foot on it. I think I'll also write our LO a letter and bury it when we plant the plant.

    @aegie: That sounds so hard. Part of me felt from the beginning of this pregnancy that it just wasn't right. My symptoms weren't right, I didn't feel right, etc. To have seen a healthy baby growing at any point and then all of a sudden not would be very difficult. I'm so sorry.

    All of these acronyms are so foreign to me. I'm really hoping it stays that way. I'm hoping this LO didn't make it because of a chromosomal abnormality or something and that all things will be okay with the next one. But I'm also preparing myself for the possibility that that might not be the case.

    @2PeasinaPod: Seriously? That would be a hard friend to face after that. Grrr. I have one friend who I called who, while she has never miscarried, almost lost her older child when he was born at 29 weeks (she is also due just a few weeks before I was). She prayed with me and then pretty much repeated over and over "this sucks. This really sucks." That was so what I needed to hear. Not "you can try again." Not "well at least..." Just "I'm sorry and it sucks."

    I don't have any pets, but I'll post a picture of my son soon

  31. Jess1483

    nectarine / 2641 posts

    @FliegepilzHut: Thank you for your words on my other thread. They were very comforting. I'm sorry for all you've been through.

  32. Jess1483

    nectarine / 2641 posts

    @jaguar: Thank you for that blog post. I love that quote. I am glad I told so many people in my life, actually. As hard as it was to tell them about the miscarriage, I'm glad the life is acknowledged. My MIL also told my husband about two miscarriages she had, which neither of us knew about. The only people I regret telling are some family friends with young children. I feel bad that the kiddos know and have to feel sad about it.

  33. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    @aegie: I can't even begin to imagine your pain I do know what you mean about not being able to help wondering about coffee, etc, I have a few things like that and even though I know they probably weren't the reason why, it's what we do as mums, isn't it, we feel guilty, even from the moment of conception I think.

    @2PeasinaPod: I'm so happy you will be getting some answers, hopefully.

    @Jess1483: They are lovely ways to remember! We made a memory box and we're going to celebrate my due date every year by doing something a child would really enjoy. I would love some jewellery though, have you seen any pieces you like? I'd love to see them.

  34. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    I've mostly skimmed this post, so I apologize if I don't respond to everyone right away.

    I'm so sorry to hear about all the recent MCs, but I think this is a great way for people to not feel as alone

    1. What is your story?
    I got KU in december when DH and I were NTNP (truly. I wasn't tracing anything). We'd been married for 1.5 years and sort of practicing NFP (I didn't always chart). I MCed in late January at 8-9 weeks. It was a natural MC and not awful physically, but it took weeks to happen and that was the hardest part. By the time it actually happened, I was more relieved than upset.

    2. How do you feel today?
    Last week for the first time I had a full emotional breakdown around AF. DH isn't one to openly discuss his feelings, and he's focused a lot more on the future whereas I'm still a little stuck in the past (especially with our EDD coming up). I think we're in a better place now, but I can't help but be jaded and wonder if we'll ever get another BFP. Meanwhile, he's basically counting on it.

    3. If you have any "next steps" what are they?
    I'm planning to have a "WTF??" discussion with my OBGYN at my annual next month.

    4. Is there something else in your life you are "investing" in?
    Not really by choice (well, not something that I'm looking forward to). But timing wise it's worked out that we're not expecting yet because I can finish my master's degree before we have a baby. I have two classes starting in a couple weeks, and one more in the spring and then I'll be done.
    We're also saving to celebrate my degree with a trip to Ireland (as long as I don't get KU in the next couple of months). But I sort of hate that that trip has become a "consolation prize" of sorts.

  35. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @Tidybee: and @2PeasinaPod: I'm really sorry about your friends not responding to you. I had a hard time with that too.

    Both my sister and SIL had MCs. I found out my sister had more than one. But my sister never said anything to me other than sending one text until I had a breakdown at her house over Easter (and then what she said was all about her and how angry she got at her FIL when she MCed, so it did NOTHING for me).

    And I've found it really hard to be around pregnant friends and friends that have recently had babies. It's hard because I'm not sure who knows we were pregnant and who doesn't, so I know that some of them understand, but I don't know if they all do. And that was part of my breakdown over the weekend. DH gets super excited for all our friends having babies and I just can't handle it. Mostly because I WANT to be excited, but I can't be. And then I'm upset because I feel guilty for not being excited.

  36. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @Jess1483: I'm glad I can help. Hope you're doing well!

  37. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @aegie: The sympathy I MOST appreciated was from my SIL. She would text me every few days for a few weeks and simply ask how I was doing. It was up to me to respond if I wanted to, and I could either talk about how I was feeling or ask her questions about what was going on. I loved how it was not obtrusive, but it was regular so I knew she was thinking of me.

    @Jess1483: I also felt a sort of "doomed" feeling from the beginning of my pregnancy. I was shocked how excited DH was (since we weren't trying at all) and how I was pretty much scared to death and cried whenever I told anyone about the pregnancy.

  38. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @MaryM: The emotions that come along with m/c are really complex. The only thing I can suggest is making sure you acknowledge your feelings...and how quickly they change at times. Give yourself time and don't try and force yourself to feel anything at all. And find the people you can talk to, to work through some of those more difficult feelings. Hope things get easier for you soon!

  39. Jess1483

    nectarine / 2641 posts

    @travelgirl1: We called our LO "little foot," so I'm thinking of this necklace. Most people won't think twice, since I already have a toddler, so I don't feel like I'd be asked to explain it often.
    https://www.etsy.com/listing/153232758/tiny-silver-baby-foot-necklace?ref=market

  40. Mrs. Oyster

    blogger / apricot / 427 posts

    Greetings all. As happy as I am to have this group, I'm so sad that we're all here together too.

    1. What is your story?
    I have a wondrerful 24mo little boy (I can't believe he's 2...geez). We started trying right around when he turned 1 and have now been trying for about 12m. I've had 1 natural mc in that time, which was 5w ago. That pregnancy started with spotting at 5w, which my midwife wouldn't see me for other than to give me a Rhogam shot, and ended at 7w with an ultrasound telling us that things wouldn't be progressing.

    2. How do you feel today? On and off. I have a close friend who has the same EDD that I would have and our sons are good friends. It's heartbreaking (and wonderful too) to see her progress every week and announce to all of our friends.
    I'm also just SO anxious. I can't help telling myself that getting pregnant again will take another year and could end badly again. It's just such an up/down road (which I know most of you know more than I do).

    3. If you have any "next steps" what are they?
    I'm meeting with a new Dr for fertility tomorrow. I'm nervous that he'll say the same things to me that the midwife did, but I'm trying to stay positive. I really feel like progesterone levels could be at play (as I'm still nursing my son) but I'm worried they won't feel the situation warrents testing it. Again...anxious.

    4. Is there something else in your life you are "investing" in?
    My son, always. And more recently, my marriage. DH and I are in counseling in hopes of repairing things that sometimes both of us think might lead to the end of our marriage.

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