GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts
@TheHistoryofUs: "to get you hooked" . . . : /
Promoting = to help or encourage, which applies to either decision.
Pushing = tactlessly or officiously aggressive, which also applies to either decision.
There is a big difference between the two
Parents should be helped and encouraged to do what is best for their families, whether that is breast feeding or formula feeding. What is being left out here is that the common denominator for bF and fF is FEEDING.
grapefruit / 4120 posts
@Thehistoryofus: I agree with you 100%. We can't assume all women are making educated decisions just because WE may be.
grape / 93 posts
Where the heck is everyone getting all this free formula from? I've never even received a coupon in the mail. The grocery store gives me coupons but it's always for the brands I am not using, which is less than helpful. I received a few 2 oz. samples from the hospital but that only got my baby through the first few days at home. From my experience, the amount of formula hospitals give out is minimal and is not likely to make or break a person's decision on how to feed their baby. And so what if it does? Formula is not bad for a baby so why is it anyone's else business?
pomelo / 5331 posts
I plan on BF'ing and I've requested so many free samples of formula because you never know. Guess I'm part of the problem
hostess / watermelon / 14932 posts
@sloaneandpuffy: I'm a little offended by this, but I might be misinterpreting what you're writing. Hard with the internet - I consider myself to be extremely well-informed as a mom-to-be, but because I might choose formula over breastfeeding makes me less educated than you?
grapefruit / 4120 posts
@sorrycharlie: I do think you're misinterpreting it. I was responding to another comment about, for example, a teen mom who might not be informed about breastfeeding vs. formula.
hostess / watermelon / 14932 posts
@sloaneandpuffy: ah, okay. I don't know that age necessarily has anything to do with it, though. I know this is a silly reference but it's a total guilty pleasure - I've seen many of the girls on 16 and Pregnant breastfeeding their babies, and they are..well, 16. I definitely agree that breastfeeding education should be more accessible and promoted (it is national breastfeeding week, after all!) but also think that by making moms who choose formula feel badly (for whatever reason) isn't the way to go.
I'm not saying you're personally making those moms feel badly, but generally speaking--for instance, if I want to FF and everyone is saying formula should be "locked up" and other statements that make me feel as though I'm almost endangering my daughter by not choosing breast milk, I feel like a pretty shitty mom. And that's not fair - because it's my choice, not anyone else's.
grapefruit / 4120 posts
@sorrycharlie: That's funny because I think the opposite. I haven't watched in awhile but after the first couple seasons I was like, "why aren't any of these girls breastfeeding?"
I am not trying to act like I am better than anyone else, but I do think it's important for all of us to remember that the Hellobee population and the general population are pretty different in terms of a lot of things, including education level, being informed and inquisitive, socioeconomic level, etc. Just because some people here may choose to FF after getting the facts and having whatever positive/negative experience does not mean that's everyone's approach/reasoning. So I guess that does sound elitist. But I think it's true.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
Americans love freebies, sorry but it's true, just read the posts about collecting "loot" from the hospitals after delivery.
hostess / watermelon / 14932 posts
@looch: oh it's definitely true! who doesn't love freebies, though? lol.
in my case (and this is personal, I don't know that this is true for everyone), we are so not rich. formula can be expensive. if we end up having to go the formula route, it would be super helpful to have some samples on hand, especially if she turns out to need a certain type (very much stinks to pay $25 for a can, and after one bottle, realize you can't use it anymore). I will admit to taking whatever freebies come my way!
olive / 63 posts
The fact is, breast is not always best for every family. You have no idea what a family is dealing with. Perhaps a mother has inverted nipples, or the baby has a cleft palate, or the mother experienced sexual trauma involving her breasts, or the mother has to go almost immediately back to a job with no BFing support, or perhaps the mother is on medications that make breastfeeding dangerous, or perhaps the mother JUST DOESN'T WANT TO BREASTFEED. A new mother does not deserved to be shamed by her peers or the government for her choice to giver her baby a nutritious alternative to breastmilk.
I am so tired of the moralizing and guilting and shaming on this issue. The science does not support breastmilk as a magical elixir. In fact the science supports almost no CAUSAL distinction between breast and formula fed babies. (And before you jump all over me on this, please consult the meta-studies that have been done.) Formulas are an absolutely acceptable and nutritious choice, and if a mother makes it, it's none of your business, and absolutely none of the state's business.
hostess / watermelon / 14932 posts
@chicagowife: A new mother does not deserve to be shamed by her peers or the government for her choice to give her baby a nutritious alternative to breast milk. thank you! this is exactly how I feel. as though the government is telling me I'm not mom enough if I don't choose to BF, and they're going to "lock up the formula."
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