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@JoJoGirl: even if someone was personally against it, allowing it doesn't hurt you! That's the part I can't understand. In fact it doesn't HURT anyone. If you want to be closed minded and restrict yourself and your family from those ideas that's your choice but I just can't see how something that could benefit so many people (not to mention our economy) could be not allowed. And really it doesn't benefit them, it's just what's fair. On this issue I can't help but agree, I mean even if I did have something against gay people (I don't) how would wanting to restrict them from marrying help/benefit me? That's like not allowing squirrels to eat a certain nut and just chasing them and knocking it out of their little squirrel hand. Just a waste of time!!!!!!!!!!! </rant>
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I sure did!
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@KJfromNJ: bahahahaha you're my hero. Love the squirrel analogy!!
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Yeah, I changed mine. My facebook is a sea of red equals signs. Makes me happy! I also work red today in solidarity... although I'm not sure anyone picked up on that detail.
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@KJfromNJ: lol. You tell 'em!
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Yes, I changed my profile picture with pride and am so happy to see so many of my FB friends with red profiles today too! Equality is an issue I feel so strongly about and if SCOTUS tries to weasel their way out of making a decision on this, I think they should all be fired.
Without trying to start a debate, I agree with the PP who said that there is no argument against gay marriage so I really don't see why this is even an issue in today's society..
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Just changed mine!
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Yep I changed mine. Since the Amendment One controversy in my state last year, I've been really passionate about it. There are a few people I've seen today spewing hate, but I'm happy to say I've seen more support.
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I wish I knew how because I would.
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I didn't change mine because I don't see the point in it-- many of my friends have changed theirs, though!
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@MRS. JACKS , just click on someone else's profile that has the picture to make it "big" on the screen, right click and select "save as". Then save to your desktop and go to your own profile and click edit photo and upload the picture you saved to your desktop
I did change mine. While it may not help change any laws, it could make someone feel better/more secure about their sexuality and it may cause others to think about why they are against it if so many others are for it. I recently had a friend come out of the closet and it was very hard for him and he got some negative reactions. I changed my profile to let him, and others like him, know that they have people rooting for them.
Just because we can't change the laws or "fix" equality by changing our profile pictures doesn't mean it doesn't help in a smaller way. It's not an all or nothing thing, it's a million tiny things.
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I didnt but I fully support marriage to the one you love based solely on that, love.
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I didn't, but a lot of people in my feed did. I support equal rights but I don't feel like changing my Facebook profile picture to show it.
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I did change mine and so did maybe 1/4 of my FB friends. I certainly support each person having their own opinions but I was disappointed tonight when I saw a picture one friend posted. It was in the same shades of red as the equality symbol but with a man and a woman holding hands. I felt it was a rather pointed attack.
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@kentuckygirl: why isn't it okay for that person to express their support of marriage being between a man and a woman? It's only okay to show support for gay marriage?
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Sorry, a little late to the party, but this was posted on South Park's facebook today and I thought it was great (I looove me some South Park, too though...)!!! http://imgur.com/g37LDvA
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I did and its been really awesome to see how many people I know DO support marriage equality. I live in the Midwest so it's a mixed bag here sometimes. I've been happily surprised by some people! So it's just kind of neat
As one of my friends said, it's like giving an Internet hug to the gay community we are friends with.
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i did change mine. i feel very strongly about equality and while i don't believe that changing my pic is going to change anything, i think it shows support.
@kentuckygirl: i saw that on someone (not a friend, but it showed up because a friend commented on it on someone else's page). it hurt my heart too.
@septemberlove: because that's not showing support for a type of marriage that no one it threatening (why does heterosexual marriage need support, other than because half the people who enter it fail to stay in it? no one is threatening to take away heterosexual couples' rights), it's showing discrimination against marriages that make some people uncomfortable. a long time ago a lot of people protested interracial marriage because they felt they had the right to say it wasn't 'right' even though it had nothing to do with them and didn't hurt anyone- it would have crushed me to see people post pictures claiming they were posting them to 'support same race marriage' rather than acknowledging that what they're really saying is my marriage makes them uncomfortable. not everyone has to be comfortable with gay marriages, but that discomfort is not grounds to prevent two loving, consenting adults from having the benefits of marriage should they so choose. in fifty years people will look back and think of all those people standing in protest of gay marriage now the same way i look at those who protested against interracial marriage back then.
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@LaughLines: Thanks! I changed mine to a Martha Stewart picture of a cake slice equality symbol, though I considered the bacon one!
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@septemberlove: I think because it is done as a reaction to what we are doing. If someone prefers marriage to be only heterosexual, that's a little disappointing to me, but I respect that they have a different opinion than mine. When they do it in response to our campaign, that seems like a provocation to me.
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I did, and most of my friends from college did as well. I live in a conservative, rural area, so sadly a lot of people I know from around here are against it because of religion. I wanted to show support for my gay friends and to stand up against what I think is the status quo in my area. I shared an image a few months ago that really sums up my thoughts:
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No I didn't. A lot of my FB friends did though.
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Yes and almost all of my friends in my news feed did too
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So you support equal rights... For people who agree with you? I don't see the harm in everyone expressing their opinion, whether it's pro-gay marriage or pro-traditional marriage. If theyre expressing their opinion on the same topic as everyone else, I don't see how that's provocation. That's just stating your belief when asked... Everyone seemed to have been implicitly asked on Facebook today to change their profile picture to reflect their view on marriage.
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@septemberlove: We'll have to agree to disagree on this, but it wasn't that everyone was asked to express their views on marriage. This was an Equality Facebook campaign to have people share their support for marriage equality while the Supreme Court hears the cases on Prop 8 and DOMA.
The few friends and family that I know who oppose equality have chosen to ignore the campaign, not to post in opposition. They have a right to post an avatar in opposition, but that's a reaction to the Equality campaign, not just a random statement of their views.
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"Oppose equality"? That's an awfully biased and rude way to put it. It isn't opposing equality, I believe most proponents of traditional marriage see it as protecting family values or religious beliefs.
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Didn't change my profile pic but I'm all for equality and am hoping that the sup ct will vote for it as well.
@septemberlove: what family values do "traditional marriages" protect? Not trying to sound rude or anything, I'm genuinely curious.
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I Don't have a Facebook.. Sounds like it was drama filled day on there.
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Yes, I proudly changed my profile pic and wore red. My FB was a happy celebration of support for loved ones, it really made me feel good about this changing world.
@septemberlove: I don't understand how that is rude or biased. If one prefers to exclude a group of people from something others can do, then that is opposing equality. This thread isn't out to change anyone's minds.
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@mrs. bird: You consider a the laws against miscegination a long time ago? For me the strides gained in Civil Rights were not very long ago at all. My parents were young teens when anti-discrimination laws were passed. They have vivid memories before and after they had rights.
@septemberlove: When a heterosexual couple marries they have to file for a marriage license and have a religious or secular ceremony within a timeframe for the marriage to be valid. As a married person you are entitled to certain priveleges under the law whether your wedding was performed by a priest in Church or a notary on a sandy beach. We have a separation of Church and State and one of our most profound principle is that "we are all equal under the law." Marriage equality is about enforcing that principle. Laws tell us to remove our bias, whether they come from faith or life experience.
IMO the best way to "protect" marriage and "support" family values is to make getting married more difficult to prevent divorce and remove stigmas on what constitutes a family.
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@septemberlove: How else would you phrase it? It IS opposing equality. Proponents of traditional marriage don't believe homosexuals are deserving of the same rights as heterosexual couples - that constitutes an inequality, which can also be phrased as "opposing equality".
Sorry, not trying to start a debate, but I think calling Mrs Jacks rude and biased for simply stating the truth was a bit much.
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@septemberlove: I don't see any difference between posting that you only support heterosexual marriage and posting that you only support marriage between people of the same race. But I guess you could say that not believing in interracial marriage is an opinion, too. They both "oppose equality" in any case, because equality is defined as equal rights for everyone. As long as gay people aren't allowed to marry, they won't have the same rights as heterosexuals, so by the technical definition of equality, opposing gay marriage is opposing equality.
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@septemberlove: I agree with you that people should be allowed to express support for the opposition as well (:
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@Dapple Grey: It really wasn't, at least not on my FB. My friends for marriage equality were more than happy to support it by changing their profile pic. Those who were against it (for whatever reason) kept their mouths shut and realized that it wasn't the time or place to air their opinions.
@septemberlove: I don't see that as rude or biased. What you described is, without a doubt, "opposing equality".
I'd be interested to hear what "family values" are protected by traditional marriage. From where I sit, roughly 50% of marriages end in divorce. Some don't even make it past a few days but we give these couples the license to wed. Thankfully I live in a state that has gotten with the program and realized how utterly ridiculous it is to withold basic human rights from its citizens but the majority of the country is still stuck back in the 50's.
We're allowed to believe whatever we want to believe and express those beliefs openly but when someone's OPINION infringes on the rights of an entire group of people, I have a serious problem with that.
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@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: loving day is celebrated in June, so this June it will be 47 years since the supreme court ruling allowing interracial marriage in the 16 remaining states where it was still banned. In the big picture, that is not a great amount of time, but to someone who was born 20 years after the fact, yes i do think of things happening that long ago as being a long time ago, though I'm sure my older relatives would not view 47 years as that long ago either If it's not within one's lifetime, it seems realistic for them view it as 'a long time ago'. I'm sorry you felt my generalization about the duration of time that has passed since then was somehow made light of the situation, that was certainly not my intent. I did say, 'in fifty years people will look back on...' so I don't feel like the point I was trying to illustrate and the timeframe in which I placed it were that far off.
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@hellocupcake: agreed. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs.
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@Ree723: I think there are alternatives. "opposing equality" is the pro-gay marriage way of being disrespectful, like pro-lifers saying pro-choice people are pro-dead babies or pro-infanticide. It isn't "opposing equality", it's protecting family values, aka that marriage is between one man and one woman and also religious values that promote the same belief. You could say "opposing equality" but I doubt you'd be very pleased if someone turned around and called you a baby murderer for being pro-choice.. But by the "technical definition" pro-choicers are pro-baby murdering...
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@mrs. bird: No, I didn't think you were making light of the landmark ruling at all. I was truly curious about your view of time and perspective, which is why I included the part about my parents. I agree with you based on the pace society is accepting gay marriage people 50 years from now will wonder what was with all the fuss.
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@septemberlove: I see your point but I also think the example you gave is much more ambiguous. The abortion debate has a lot of variables open to personal interpretation (ie when does life begin? Can it be murder if it's a bunch of cells incapable of surviving outside its mother? And so on... you see where I'm going with that), but marriage equality is a much simpler black and white issue. Either we give equal rights to all consensual adults in a loving relationship or we don't. One way promotes equality, the other doesn't - it really is that simple.
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I didn't change my profile pic (as mentioned earlier) but I posted the dog one. Friends of mine posted the other two.
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