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Do you ever look at TTCers timing and wonder why they don't BD more?

  1. ineebee

    pear / 1580 posts

    Well said, @bluestriped bee.

  2. LindsayInNY

    bananas / 9229 posts

    @MrsMccarthy: Our first two cycles TTC were a complete bust. I know DH was sick one time, I don't remember what happened the other. Well, this cycle, #11 and 14ish months later, DH was also sick but, ya know what, we made do and BDed anyways. I'm not about to let that time pass! We typically start EOD a week before O, do a couple days in a row (4-5) around O, then EOD once or twice after. It may only take one time for some people but I'm making sure that there are lots of times for this to work for us!

  3. Ash

    honeydew / 7909 posts

    Nah.

  4. septca

    GOLD / pomegranate / 3688 posts

    Just for kicks, I just went into FF and looked at my charts for our first few months TTC DD. Our timing *sucked* until about 9-10 months in. Wow. Not that it would have made any difference (we found out during cycle 10 that I had two blocked tubes), but I feel like such a dork for how little I knew then.

  5. MrsMccarthy

    honeydew / 7295 posts

    @dc yoga bee: of course! In no way do I mean to suggest that anyone has less desire for a child. I'm just trying to understand from an outside perspective.

    @Ash: of course it's no ones business. I would say that 90 percent of what's on HB is very personal and no ones business but we share and discuss as we feel comfortable because frankly I think we all can learn from each others experiences or at least understand a point of view that is not ours. I am already learning so much and understanding so much about others in this situation. I hope you don't find that sad. In my life I am an over sharer but I say to each their own and I really don't mean this in a negative way at all.

  6. Mrs tartan

    kiwi / 656 posts

    Honestly no, we got our BFP after 8' months ttc and I can truly say I'm so proud of those who manage to keep trying after that long and especially those who are now counting in years.
    BDing was starting to get routine and become a chore and tear DH and I apart rather than being us closer, it was so stressful. I would be super happy for anyone who had managed to BD twice a month that had been trying for years.
    Great question though, totally know you didn't meantime offend anyone. Everyone's ttc journey is different, some are positive and some very negative. I guess we just learn from and lean on each other.

  7. Ash

    honeydew / 7909 posts

    @MrsMccarthy: gah, sorry if I came off rude. *hugs*

  8. lovehoneybee

    GOLD / wonderful pea / 17697 posts

    I think there's a lot of factors--privacy (I didn't care, because there really wasn't much that was TMI for me when TTC--I mean really, I talk about my cervical mucus!) but I completely understand someone not wanting to be as open about it with virtual strangers.

    But that aside, there were definitely months, especially as it took longer and longer, when it really felt like a chore. Maybe other couples can still muster up the will to get it done frequently when it feels like a chore, but some months it was really hard for us to do that. Like we knew we should be doing it more, but one or both of us just couldn't do it (okay honestly, not me, I could fake it, but D couldn't/wouldn't try).

    And to be honest, when it got close to a year, part of me even wondered why we even bothered to do it often...we'd started out doing it 4-5 times during my fertile window to no avail, so what did it really matter? I recognize that that thinking DEFINITELY didn't help, but I did think it, and those ended up being a month or two when *I* couldn't muster up the will. Like why bother, when I'm already convinced it's not going to work?

    Plus there could be a multitude of other reasons--illness, travel, whatever.

    And honestly, the month we conceived E we only had sex ONCE, two days prior to ovulation (due to illness). So it's still totally possible.

    So to answer your question, no. Especially not of someone who hasn't researched TTC to death. I know when I started I assumed that I'd just have to have unprotected sex ONCE and I'd get pregnant. Because that's what I'd been told for a decade prior to starting. And even people who I know have been trying for a while, I still just assume it's one of the above mentioned reasons, or some other extenuating circumstance.

    And I know you didn't mean it to come off as such, but to me, the question did start to tiptoe a bit into "just relax" territory...as a matter of fact, I was once told that I just had to "relax and have sex" to get pregnant., so maybe it hits a little close to home. I just don't think it's ever really as cut and dry as needing to have sex more.

  9. BSB

    hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts

    @MrsMccarthy: I know you didn't mean harm but I think I was slightly annoyed you used the word 'astonished' when you described your reaction to seeing these charts. For me, it's such a rather strong reaction to something that, honestly, isn't your business (as others have said). Yeah, we open ourselves to interpretation and opinions when we make our charts public, but to look into how frequently we have sex and wonder why we aren't doing it more... seems a bit intrusive. Yeah, we know we are suppose to BD as often as possible. Shoot, I'm sure half of us had no idea when we ovulated when we first started TTC. We just went with it. Also, we did start out as NTNP, at first, so we weren't completely into TTC. Plus, fertility apps, pretty much all estimate when you O. Also, stress can alter when you O. There's been times where I know I'm stressed because of work and I think to myself I have a few more days to BD. Like others have said... there are tons of reason on why people couldn't BD as much during the 'fertile' week.

  10. MrsMccarthy

    honeydew / 7295 posts

    @Ash: mwah! I was thinking the same about my post. I would really hate to make anyone feel bad.

  11. MrsMccarthy

    honeydew / 7295 posts

    @bluestriped bee: I am so sorry to have offended and I have so much respect for how you feel. As I said I am learning a lot from people's responses here. My astonshiment was not necessarily the right reaction to have. I was just being honest and I realize I may be very naive in feeling that way.

  12. deactivated_account

    GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts

    @MrsMccarthy: Okay, I will say that sometimes I am astonished about the lack of sex people are having. But I never go and seek out such information. I'm just astonished when they blast it or post pics of their charts showing low BDing. That being said, my husband works nights, and travels and I travel so it gets hard and I am able to empathize with all situations. To each their own.

  13. MrsMccarthy

    honeydew / 7295 posts

    No one needs to tell me about their timing if they don't care to share but I am just admitting that sometimes when I read charts I wonder why someone who has been trying for a few months or so hasn't tried to mix it up. That said it sea clear to me that there are a myriad of reasons. I also know that no matter what it only takes one time. There is science to it but sometimes all you can muster is a few times and often times that's all a person will need. Again I am sorry if I have offended anyone by posting this, I don't mean to suggest that people don't have their reasons, I just wanted to understand better because I was surprised by some of these charts. I posted this generally because I would NEVER feel right posting this to an individual. So I thought I would make it open season and see how everyone felt about it. It's been very eye opening. Thank you for sharing. Good luck and baby dust to all. No matter how much you get it on.

  14. googly-eyes

    GOLD / pomelo / 5737 posts

    I wouldn't wonder. Life gets in the way and/or they may not be charting everything. I know if we were ttc and the right timing were to fall on dh's work days it probably wouldn't happen. The only time we even see each thee is for maybe an hour around 5pm... And dd is awake!

  15. dc yoga bee

    grapefruit / 4770 posts

    @MrsMccarthy: No offense here! It does make me feel a little bad because we know we should have more regular sex, but it's just very hard. We literally forced ourselves to have sex 5x this month in our fertile week, and man oh man no amount of preseed could get us to do anymore lol. I was telling DH we had sex more times in the last week than in the six months prior to starting ttc . I also don't want to get on medication for low libido while ttc. But, there are a lot of different strokes for different folks lol.

  16. Radish

    nectarine / 2079 posts

    I will say I wonder this as well. Not on ppl on HB, but I was stalking a charting forum specifically to compare optimal timing for BDing and am surprised by how few and far from ovulation some are.

  17. MrsMccarthy

    honeydew / 7295 posts

    @dc yoga bee: forced sex totally blows! My husband literally whimpered from exhaustion last month and that's why I skipped O day which I was mad about later. There is an emotional toll as I am starting to get that.

  18. CatchAFallingStar

    nectarine / 2809 posts

    @MrsMccarthy: TTC is just stressful and on-demand sex is not the best. I always think we'll BD more each cycle, but it just doesn't happen. My DH is my best friend, so sometimes we just get lost in other fun things.

  19. PawPrints

    pomegranate / 3658 posts

    @MrsMccarthy: Okay as someone who has only been trying for a few months, can I say: if someone sees my chart and thinks I need to be having sex more often, PLEASE tell me so!! I would think that would be true for most newbies. If you're nice about it they'll probably appreciate the tip, and if they have mitigating reasons why it's hard for them to do it more often, well again they hopefully won't be hurt if you're nice about it.

  20. MrsEmm

    coffee bean / 32 posts

    I think TTC is hard and stressful at the best of times. When we started, I couldn't believe how nervous I was. I kept thinking 'what if there's something wrong, what if it doesn't work, what if we can't have babies?!' So yah, it made things hard. When I stopped thinking about it after a couple of months, I did get pregnant, but ironically, we had not BDed very much that month because we were moving and very busy. So more isn't always better necessarily. Sometimes, it's just timing and luck. Anyway, all that to say that I try not to judge other people's TTC journey. It's very personal. If they share their charts, it's sort of good information for others who are charting as well. But generally I don't even look because I feel like it's not my business - I'm not really part of that conversation so I almost feel like I'm prying.

  21. Mrs. Lemon-Lime

    wonderful pea / 17279 posts

    I don't chart or read other people's chart, so I have no idea how often people are or are not BD during the optimal time to get the job done.

    I will say BD during the week blows especially when my husband is dog tired from leaving the house at 6:30 am and sitting in bumper to bumper traffic for two-three hours just to get home at 9 pm. Yeah we want a baby, but gosh darn it can I O when it's convenient?

  22. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    I believe knowledge is power, and sometimes, in order to learn something, you need to share your information and get help with the interpretation.

    This is where I think people need to be careful. So many people consider themselves an authority and really have no freaking clue, so if you post stuff, expect to get comments from the peanut gallery. Maybe you'll get one gem, but I discount the rest.

    I am not an authority on anything related to TTCing. All I can tell you is what I did and what my results were. That means absolutely nothing and I realize this.

  23. MrsTiz

    cantaloupe / 6800 posts

    I'll admit, I think the same thing. Doing it 1x a week, I just..I don't see how that improves your chances unless you are absolutely 100% sure that is your best day. Sex doesn't always have to be a full out experience, most people have 5 minutes to spare each day for the sake of the cause . Of course life factors into that, not seeing each other, working out of town, illness, etc. But I see what you mean OP, in a non-judgy way, I have thought the same thing. DH and I have a overly-healthy sex life though, so I can't relate to getting tired of doing it everyday. Or even every other day for that matter.

  24. T.H.O.U.

    wonderful clementine / 24134 posts

    @MrsMccarthy: I agree, forced BD is really tough! I remember a few times we had sex because we had to and couldn't finish. I was so disappointed because I wanted to put SOMETHING on my chart to show we had at least tried!

  25. littlek

    GOLD / squash / 13576 posts

    @T.H.O.U.: That is the worst! That has happened once and I balled. I'm sure DH felt fabulous that I was a wreck because he couldn't BD with me.

  26. ChiCalGoBee

    nectarine / 2028 posts

    @T.H.O.U.: Been there....nothing worse than not finishing, knowing it's a "missed opportunity," and then having an argument after. UGH UGH UGH @littlek: Yep, I balled too:-(

  27. MrsMccarthy

    honeydew / 7295 posts

    @T.H.O.U.: oMG totally the worst! I guess that along with schedules and emotional toll really seem to interfere. I wanted to cry when I realized we missed O and O+1 last month because my husband made me feel like I had to do all the work! Hah

    In my mind I feel like I am gonna go for broke at first a few times if it doesn't happen for us for a bit but it might be one of those easier said than done type things. This has actually made me realize how naive I was about TTC for the long haul. And I any stress enough that I don't mean people who are dealing with fertility issues or special circumstances. I would never in a million years want to seem to be suggestion any kind of "relax" or "just have more sex" crap. I am glad I asked though because it really shed some light for me.

  28. Crystal

    grapefruit / 4028 posts

    @ChiCalGoBee: @littlek: I have done that. Definitely doesn't help an already tough situation. Ugh.

  29. BSB

    hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts

    Yeah, my DH has a health condition in which he takes a variety of meds to control it. It doesn't help down there for him, either. We've even tried other drugs to help him down there but he has to be careful with it since, it can negatively affect his health. It's hard deciding which meds are more important. So sometimes we just gotta wait for the right moment. After months of trying and him not being able to finish, I can't be mad at him. At first, yeah, I was annoyed and upset but seeing that heartbreak on his face when he can't finish takes a huge toll on him month after month. He doesn't feel like a man when he can't do the one job he is suppose to do. Infertility has definitely torn our marriage apart, at first, but I can say now that it has definitely strengthened our marriage and we are stronger than ever. I absolutely can't be mad at him; he doesn't need that added pressure. All I can do is be supportive and tell him that there's next month. He thinks he is the real reason for our IF but I have remind him that there have been perfect cycles and still no BFP... so it definitely could be me that's causing our IF. Luckily, my RE has decided to let us freeze his sperm for IUIs, so there are no longer missed cycles. Plus, if this current IUI doesn't work, we are proceeding with IVF and hopes that it helps things along.

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