cantaloupe / 6017 posts
No. We ask if she wants to. We do that for everyone though- including ourselves. She never has to. She usually does.
nectarine / 2466 posts
Nope. I don't like them to do things they are uncomfortable with. My mil will continually pester them for hugs and kisses, so I usually end up picking one up and tell her to wave. The other one will usually run away, so I'll call for her to wave as well.
persimmon / 1043 posts
I expect them to but if for whatever reason they don't want to, we don't push it. Not a big deal. We see both sets of grandparents pretty regularly (at least monthly)
pomelo / 5573 posts
I don't think teaching bodily autonomy has anything to do with whether or not you suspect there might be abuse, or how good somebody is to somebody else. My parents are wonderful to me but I don't always feel like hugging them. My husband is my favourite adult in the world but I'm not always in the mood for a hug. I don't see any reason why this should be different for a kid. I expect him to say goodbye in some way, because that's just manners, but I don't expect it to be physical.
cantaloupe / 6171 posts
I ask LO if she wants to give a hug, and if she doesn't I ask if she wants to give a high five, if not then a wave. I don't force her to but I do suggest it.
pomelo / 5257 posts
I don't like to be touched by anyone but my husband and maaaaybe my immediate family. So no, I won't force the issue. I also just don't like the idea of putting it into their heads that they ever have to hug someone they don't want to.
cantaloupe / 6634 posts
Absolutely not. To me, there is a huge difference between a child not wanting to hug because they are in a sour mood and not wanting to because they feel uncomfortable. Considering the sexual abuse that has happened in my family (not immediate,) I will NEVER force my children to hug or kiss someone.
honeydew / 7283 posts
I expect that they will because they always want to, but I don't think I would every try to convince them to or insist that they do. I want to teach them from a young age that they are in charge of their bodies.
pomegranate / 3779 posts
I expect it and ask her to, but don't force it or make a big deal of it. She can wave or hi-five if she wants. I do insist that she acknowledges them when we/they arrive and leave.
GOLD / wonderful olive / 19030 posts
Yes, I will say "go give grandma and grandpa hugs and loves" and she does. If she is in a mood I don't force it but we very much encourage it.
Edit: I still hug and kiss my grandma every time I see her and every time I leave her. At 30 I know how precious time is, this was something instilled in us at a young age.
pomelo / 5000 posts
No. It would be nice if she does, but it won't be a big deal if she does not. I don't see it as a sign as disrespect. Not acknowledging a person and saying goodbye would not be ok, but not hugging someone is fine.
wonderful grape / 20453 posts
I expect it in that she's obsessed with her Mimi and has never turned a hug down, but not expected in that it's forced or a requirement
pomegranate / 3393 posts
No, my child doesn't have to do anything with his body he doesn't want to.
That said, he's very affectionate so he hugs people when saying goodbye usually anyway.
persimmon / 1286 posts
he usually does it on his own, but i am not into telling him to hug/kiss/touch or be touched by people he doesn't want to.
pomegranate / 3601 posts
No, he has to say goodbye and we encourage a wave and often our older one will give his grandparents a hug but he definitely doesn't have to.
pomegranate / 3314 posts
Yes, I expect it. It's a small thing that means a lot to the grandparents. I've never had to force it, though, and I wouldn't. But I would be disappointed if she chose not to.
pineapple / 12053 posts
@blackbird: this for my DD1.
I expect it because she usually offers hugs and kisses but I've also taught her that if she wouldn't like to, she can say no thank you.
grapefruit / 4355 posts
@Ree723: Agreed!
I'll expect her to hug them goodbye but I obviously can't force it. But she will be told that she is hurting their feelings if she refuses.
pomegranate / 3706 posts
I don't believe appreciation needs to be shown physically and I don't want my girls internalizing that. I do hope they will, but I do not force hugging grandparents.
pomegranate / 3658 posts
Nope, no using any kind of coercion (whether through emotional guilt or whatever) to force physical affection that they don't want to give.
To restate the whole "bodily autonomy" argument in a different way: Kids don't understand the difference between "I have to hug/kiss Grandma because she's so good to me, even though I'm not comfortable" and "I have to sit on my scout leader's lap because he's so good to me, even though I'm not comfortable." Or whatever.
grapefruit / 4418 posts
@PawPrints: yup!! I can't see the whole "it makes grandma sad when you don't hug her" as anything but emotional manipulation and that is dangerous!
cantaloupe / 6146 posts
I do, but both grandmas always say "don't make him hug me, it's ok if he doesn't."
grapefruit / 4819 posts
@catomd00: Or it could be simply teaching children that their actions impact others.... Meh, guess it all depends on how you view it and your relationship with your parents/ILs. My view is shaped by the fact that this rarely is an issue with my girls, and when it does occur, it's usually because they're having a bit of a tantrum or being a bit contrary, not because they generally are uncomfortable with physical affection. If I thought that was the case, it would be a different story but I know my girls, I know our family dynamics, and I feel perfectly comfortable and confident that we are not emotionally manipulating or damaging our children. I also have full confidence that they recognise the difference between grandparents and everyone else as we certainly don't ask or encourage them to hug anyone else, even aunts and uncles, unless they instigate it.
I think it's hard for all of us to fully understand other people's family dynamics in this regard. We're all shaped by our own experiences as a child and now as an adult. I come from a very affectionate family and a very affectionate friend group. In my world, hugs are given every time you greet and say goodbye to someone who is even remotely important to you. To me, it's normal. I never felt pressured to give others hugs as a child but it was so much the norm, we always did it and felt completely comfortable with it. DH was similar. Now we're the same with our kids and they're comfortable with it. But I can see how it would be hard for someone who comes from a less affectionate background, or who isn't comfortable with physical affection, to truly understand that....
pomelo / 5258 posts
I expect DD to give hugs in that it is the social norm but like many previous posters I wouldn't make a big deal out of it if she didn't want to. It happened to us this week. MIL & FIL watched DD for a week and were leaving. DD won't see them for 4 months or so. She was having a hard time saying goodbye (acting grumpy and pouting) and we just let it go. No big deal.
persimmon / 1483 posts
No, I just expect her to be polite (I mean, as polite as 2 year old can be) and communicate some type of goodbye. We blow a lot of kisses around here because that's what she's most comfortable with.
pomegranate / 3127 posts
No, we only expect the kids to say bye. Their grandparents aren't big huggers so no one's feelings are hurt.
I do have a young relative who must have had it drilled into her that if you see family, you hug, and I feel so bad for her! We're not close at all but she'll hug me when she sees me, totally ignore me during the entire visit, then hug again when leaving. So she's basically hugging people who are almost strangers to her just because "you're supposed to"... so awkward!
pomelo / 5093 posts
No. And I think that linking gratitude with physical touch is a very dangerous precedent to set. My daughter is required to be thankful and gracious, but I would never expect her to hug someone to demonstrate that.
Basically what @PawPrints: said.
hostess / cantaloupe / 6486 posts
I mean, I expect/would like her to but I don't force her. She's only 2, making her give someone a hug seems counter productive to me. She will usually hug them or least say goodbye unless she is super grouchy. I feel like at this age it's lead by example.
papaya / 10343 posts
No. We ask her to give a hug but if she doesn't want to we ask if she would like to blow a kiss and if she doesn't want to do that we ask her to wave goodbye. Sometimes she won't even do that lol.
grapefruit / 4731 posts
Wow okay I am the odd one out... Maybe I should take as a hint not to respond but I voted yes and I do force it if they are being shy by saying over and over again. I feel they are being lazy for the most part if they don't do it like don't want to get off the couch to walk over to the door before their grandparents leave. Maybe if I sense a different reason for not wanting to I wouldn't force it.
It is their grand parents, I know the grandparents like it and when I am old I would like a hug and kiss from my grandkids. I only do this for grandparents.
pomelo / 5866 posts
@Ree723: Yes, I agree. I definitely see how personal cultural/family values/connections shape our views on this. There is a high frequency of natural and customary displays of love and affection where I live/interact.
persimmon / 1328 posts
No, it's completely up to him. Just like if he doesn't want to give me a hug!
coconut / 8472 posts
Do I expect it? Sort of. I expect him to say good bye and we ask him to give hugs or blow kisses or whatever. He's pretty affectionate and loves my parents. He's less close to my in/laws though. I would never ever force or overly encourage him to be affectionate if he was uncomfortable. Not what good could come from that. The grandparents are grown ups, they can deal if a 2 year old doesn't want to hug them.
pomelo / 5678 posts
I do require good manners, so I encourage her to say hello and goodbye to everyone as they/we come and go. I sometimes ask if she wants to give someone a high five when meeting.
ETA: I loooathe forced hugging (when forced on me).
pineapple / 12526 posts
@blackbird: This.
She sees my parents several times a week and is obsessed with her grandparents. So yes, I do expect her to.
persimmon / 1095 posts
I'll never force it. I'd expect DD to at least say good bye. DD is only 15 weeks old so it's not an issue yet but I feel my MIL will have major issues with this when DD is older and refuses a hug/kiss. Not looking forward to that battle.
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