Full-time WOHM of three or more kids?
My SIL is but she has a very regimented job and relied on free childcare from my in-laws for over 5 years.
My friend is also and ended up using a nanny because it was cheaper than daycare for her littles.
Full-time WOHM of three or more kids?
My SIL is but she has a very regimented job and relied on free childcare from my in-laws for over 5 years.
My friend is also and ended up using a nanny because it was cheaper than daycare for her littles.
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
One friend- she also had a nanny. My friends hours weren't super regular but she was able to wah 2 days a week (but still had the nanny those days). She is actually leaving her job though to sah.
GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts
We are a 2 maybe 3 family, but only because we have my mom as our primary care, I have a flex WOHM/WAHM schedule, and DS1 will be in school full time before we make the decision about potential baby #3. Most of my mom friends who have 3+ are or will be SAHMs.
squash / 13208 posts
My sister - but she works at a DCP so she got free tuition!
If we had 3 (I have 2) we would have done a nanny - cheaper than 3 in DCP
apricot / 490 posts
@mrsjyw: That's what I am seeing too. I SAHM for 1 year with a little help from a sitter to do my consulting. That turned full time and I realized I LOVE to work. I'd also LOVE three kids but I don't have family help.
I think what will make this work is negotiating flex time and work from home time with future positions. Of course this is many years down the line but I am a planner.
apricot / 490 posts
@Mamaof2: Lucky sister!
I'm thinking about buying our forever home with an extra bedroom so we can do a live-in au pair. It can end up being very cost effective and they can drive the kids around.
grapefruit / 4988 posts
I have a friend who is expecting her 4th. Honestly I'm not sure if she works full or part-time, but I know she has a nanny (she said it was more cost-effective than daycare after she had the 3rd).
wonderful grape / 20453 posts
Yep! I have some coworkers who have 3-4 kids who have been working their whole lives. I plan on WOH and having 3. As long as E is in kindergarten or older, it's financially feasible. As far as the nanny goes, I feel like it might not benefit my older kids to go from a group play setting to a very solo style setting. I'm not sure it's cheaper here, either
A girl i went to college with WOH full time with a set of twins and a girl about 14 months younger than them. They had an au pair for a bit and she went back to work when the twins were 3-ish.
The SAHMs i know with 3+ all have their kids SUPER close together in age. The WOHM have them spaced out more.
WFM isn't as important to me, or necessary, as flex-time or being able to leave and get to daycare if someone needs to. My husband's job is flexible and i'm looking to move into a less flexible career. But hey, lord knows i wouldn't be the only mom ever in healthcare
pomegranate / 3272 posts
My friend does and she does a combo of a nanny a few days and her MIL the other day or two. He job is pretty demanding too so I don't know how she does it!
pomegranate / 3275 posts
au pair is the way to go. I was thinking about going back to work, and the only way it made sense was an au pair. You pay a lot up front, and have to hope you find the right person, but it is a better deal financially.
apricot / 490 posts
@blackbird: I was thinking the same thing about transitioning from daycare to nanny. I think it would be hard for my own E to go from a highly engaging daycare setting to a nanny even if she was home with her future siblings.
I am in healthcare too but academia which often means long hours in front of a computer but can be at home or on my own schedule for a lot of the time.
apricot / 490 posts
@MUI831: I need to interview these moms for more details!
My friend that has the demanding job with nanny works 80% and so her salary is 80% but she gets full time benefits. This helps control the long hours somewhat.
pomegranate / 3565 posts
Yes, several. My SIL and BIL have triplets and both WOH. The girls are 3 now and go to preschool but before then had a nanny. I'm not sure of all the details of the others, but I think they have flexibility in their jobs.
I plan to have a 3rd and continue to work full time. But I admit that I have my mom to help me. She watched DS1 until he was 2 and now watched DS2. She is getting older and get arthritis is getting worse so I wonder if she'll be able to take care of the 3rd baby full time. Even if she can't, she can still help with pick up after school or sick days. Cost isn't a concern to me because I pay her anyway and my kids will go to catholic school. I know I'll have these costs for a while.
apricot / 490 posts
@blackbird: Also good point about the spacing. I think we will definitely have our first two spaced 2.5 years or so but the third might be 3 or 4 years down the line.
apricot / 490 posts
@Mamasig: Even if its not as much time, its so nice knowing that second set of hands is there and you have already set up your life to handle those "costs."
I think I could make it work to pay for daycare for 2 at time but not three!
apricot / 490 posts
@Foodnerd81: My SIL will SAH too if they end up moving to a lower-cost area. The oldest will be school but still wants to experience being there for after-school in a way she hasn't been able to do so far.
wonderful grape / 20453 posts
@teawithpaloma: Initially, I was thinking 6/4/newborn for our age spacing, and 4 is pretty inexpensive for daycare at this point, that the benefit is really slim, I'd think. I just don't thinK i could have him in a daycare setting for 4 years, then be like "Here's your nanny" for ONE year, then send him to Kindergarten. Gah! But now that i'm seriously considering a career change, it'd be more like 7/5/newborn, so we'd just have before school care to mess with. The spacing is what makes me feel like i definitely want to go with an IUD after T is born! Our first two will be 25 months apart...basically, I definitely think it's feasible to work full time with 3+ kids. Lots of people do it, they just have to plan a bit carefully, maybe, heh.
apricot / 490 posts
@blackbird: GAH is right. We could be overthinking this but it can be really complicated.
I didn't have a great experience with our sitter/part-time nanny and have been loving daycare so I would be willing to cut costs elsewhere to make it work.
Anyway, re: healthcare this woman always stuck with me. Having 4 kids and being a doctor in France: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/12/world/europe/12iht-fffrance.html?_r=0
eggplant / 11824 posts
Yes, several. In fact one of my admins has 6 kids (!!), but they are spaced out over 16 years so only 3 or 4 of them are in daycare at the same time. I can think of several other women I work with off the top of my head who have 3+ kids and are WOHM. I think for most of these women, they continue working even when daycare for 3 mostly cancels out their income because that situation is only short-term. They will end up better off staying in the workforce (especially because around here we don’t have a ton of great, large employers to pick from) than taking several years off, even if for several years that don’t have much $$ after childcare. Most people I work with do daycare, but some have a nanny.
eggplant / 11287 posts
I know lots and lots and lots of people with more than 3 kids, but only one of those moms works full time out of the home. And her kids aren't in daycare. Two are in school and one is watched full time by a grandmother.
pomegranate / 3127 posts
My mom's manager has 8 kids I wish I knew how she does it! I think her husband either works part time or used to, plus the older kids are in school and old enough to help out at home.
clementine / 903 posts
I plan to have 3 kids in 4 years if all works out and work outside the home. I'll just deal with the insane cost of daycare. It'll be temporary.
grapefruit / 4703 posts
My boss has 3 kids but there are 10 years between #2 and #3, and she also has her mom living with her. I have another co-worker who has 5 kids, AND she's a single mom, AND her whole family lives in another country. She's basically a superhero. Again though, they're spread over about 15 years. My BIL has a friend with 6 (soon to be 7) kids, they both WOH FT, and they both run marathons & triathlons. Just hearing about them makes me feel lazy, haha.
eggplant / 11716 posts
I can't really say I "know them" super personally, but my husband's boss has three kids and his wife has always worked. I think they are all 7-and-under.
They are both managing directors in the finance world though, so I'd imagine the two of them together are making over $800,000/year or so. I do know they have a nanny and one is in school, but I still think it must be very hard to juggle two high-powered jobs in NYC with having 3 kids. Good for them! Too bad my husband married someone in public education, haha.
pomelo / 5628 posts
My coworker, a teacher, has 3. Her sister watches them (they are 5 and under).
wonderful grape / 20453 posts
@teawithpaloma: Wow....I didn't realize it was so un-balanced in France! I always swoon over their subsidized daycare and whatnot....and i always think to myself, "damn that would make things easier". Because I know a fair amount of people who feel that if they could/did have a longer leave, they wouldn't be SAHMs. I definitely think we're undergoing that in-house revolution already here with our generation. I know it's 100% the case in my household! My husband pulls his weight, and more, for sure. NOTHING like what i or my friends had growing up. Definitely makes it easier for us to consider the third kid and for my career to not take a sideshow to his.
@yoursilverlining: Yes completely agree with this! You may not profit one year, but in the long run, the money pans out, plus there's insurance, 401K, raises, retention, blah blah blah. Lots of hidden things. I don't see daycare as a "my salary" issue, though.
pomegranate / 3565 posts
@teawithpaloma: unfortunately I live in an area where the public education is not the best. Paying for tuition is a part of life!
And triplets are hard. When they were babies, we used to go over at night to help get them ready for bed. They are fortunate family is close by to help.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21616 posts
No, not unless the kids are already school age. But I also don't know very many WOHMs in general... Most who quit work to stay home plan to get a job once their kids are all in school.
I live in an area with a lot of sahms
apricot / 315 posts
My mom was a WOHM who raised 4 kids, 2-3 years apart for each. My grandmother did provide care for the early years, with 2-3 days of daycare at a center starting at age 3 until we reached kindergarten. I know they paid her, but not sure how much - I imagine that if she had to pay normal daycare rates for all of us it might not have worked.
GOLD / wonderful coffee bean / 18478 posts
I can think of one and they are paying 3x for FT daycare right now. It is only temporary, though. Their oldest one goes to kindergarten in the fall and they are doing public school.
Everyone else I know with 3+ are SAHMs.
pomelo / 5607 posts
My aunt was (all of her kids are grown now), but they were pretty widely spaced. I think they just used daycare. Though as far as I know my grandmother has never worked regularly (maybe that's where I get it from), so she may have provided some childcare as well. My MIL had 4 as well, very close together. I've never thought to ask DH whether she worked when they were too young for school. Pretty sure she started leaving them home alone very young. DH is very fond of telling the story about how he thought he heard a prowler outside one night, and went out with a baseball bat looking for them. He was 7. Not sure if his siblings (twin sister and two younger brothers) were home, but I'm guessing they were.
Other than that, interestingly, I only know one person my own age with 3+ (4 in her case) kids, and she's a SAHM who homeschools.
papaya / 10560 posts
Yes, a coworker has 4, two are school aged and two aren't--her mil is child care. So lucky!!!!
pineapple / 12793 posts
My mom had three while working full-time as a doctor. We had a few aupairs through the years. No family close enough to help.
My aunt has four and works full time. They had a nanny for a while but now the youngest is in school.
My SIL has three and an incredibly successful political career.
honeydew / 7811 posts
Yes! I have a friend who just had her third son a few months ago. Both parents WOH full time and are very career driven. They plan on having more kids. They are awesome parents and I admire them a lot!
ETA: the kids are in daycare and no parental help.
grapefruit / 4770 posts
My colleague has 3 kids. At one point all three were in daycare at same time! Her and her husband do not have any family help. She's a supervisory attorney over a staff of 12 in her group, but they are under staffed for the matters they handle for our large agency. She works full-time, and teleworks 1 day a week. She said she worked hard through undergrad, law, bar exam, and to get to be a supervisor, but being a mom is her favorite job!
apricot / 490 posts
Wow, there really a lot of examples from you ladies. This is all so fascinating. I really wish I could do a project where I just interview moms about their choices and how they logistically organize their day.
Thank you for sharing!
pineapple / 12053 posts
My mom and MIL both WOH and had husbands that did the same. They both paid for childcare as neither had family nearby.
wonderful clementine / 24134 posts
Two sisters both have three and are dual WOH parents. One has a lot of help from family for after achool care. Other pays for it.
Besides the cost of daycare (which can be minimized by spacing) I worry about activities as they all get older.
papaya / 10343 posts
I have two cousins who are. One has a husband who works night shift and watches kids during the day, the other worked part time until the kids were in school and then uses after school care. Those are the only two I know irl who have 3.
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