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Do you know many unvaccinated kids?

  1. illumina

    pomelo / 5469 posts

    It's very uncommon. All of my friends have vaccinated their LO's and all of my friends were vaccinated as children...apart from me! My parents were strongly anti-vax.

  2. .twist.

    pineapple / 12802 posts

    @anonysquire: Yes, me again, do I irritate you? You're reading too much into their comments.

  3. anonysquire

    cantaloupe / 6923 posts

    @.twist.: irritate isn't the right word

  4. .twist.

    pineapple / 12802 posts

    @anonysquire: Well, in that case, I think I'm doing exactly what I need to be doing.

  5. anonysquire

    cantaloupe / 6923 posts

    @littlejoy: was your ETA to me? It's probably just the people I associate with. In my neighborhood and family everyone is vaccinated. So in our playgroup all Zumas friends are up to date on vaccines. But we have other friends who are not, in our holistic groups, crunchy groups, cloth diapering groups. All that stuff.

  6. mrs. tictactoe

    blogger / pomegranate / 3201 posts

    I know one who lives on our street, but we don't really see her much. I have a friend who now lives in another state and I know she considered not vaccinating before her first was born, but I'm not sure what she ended up doing. I rarely see her though.

  7. littlejoy

    pomegranate / 3375 posts

    @anonysquire: Yes, it was. I think you're the only person who said they know quite a few people who aren't vaccinated, so I was just curious.

  8. anonysquire

    cantaloupe / 6923 posts

    @littlejoy: ya. Well when people keep posting questions about vaccinations on a one-sided site, it doesn't bring too many people like me out of the wood work.

  9. jetsa

    grapefruit / 4663 posts

    I'm in a local natural moms group on FB and none of their kids are vaxed, they are also women I attended high school with. I don't agree with it but I keep my mouth shut.

  10. autumn865

    persimmon / 1147 posts

    Our close friends all vaccinate but I'm not sure about the acquaintances we see at church, story time, gym time. It should be a convo parents have. It terrifies me now I have a 1 week old that will be vaccinated but of course is too young at the moment.

  11. littlejoy

    pomegranate / 3375 posts

    @anonysquire: Like I said in my post, I think a lot of this happens online, and not in real life.

    I vaccinate my child, but on a schedule we are comfortable with. And, we've skipped some vaccines (we will revisit them at a time that works for our family).

    I think there are more middle of the road families around than you think. People who do vaccinate their children, because they've researched and believe the science, but still question the toxins and motives of drug companies.

    I never want to tell someone how to think, but again, I'm surprised that you aren't more grateful for other parents vaccinating their children (as it helps to protect your child). Maybe you are grateful ... I don't think you need to be defensive. I, for one, love seeing the perspective of other people. Some people here will totally judge parents who don't vaccinate their children, but you can't vaccinate for medical reasons, which no one would judge.

    I think tone is lost a bit online. My guess is that most parents are doing what they're doing because they love their child.

  12. anonysquire

    cantaloupe / 6923 posts

    @littlejoy: I guess I've seen too many articles and comments lately about how people should be able to sue me or take away my kids. Even if the reason she doesn't have some vaccinations is for her medical reasons. And then I see a post like this or others who wouldn't let their kids play with unvaccinated kids even if it's for medical reasons. My baby has some pretty serious medical issues, some of those that will affect her the rest of the life. So sorry that I don't love when people treat her like a freak. But you're right, it probably has a lot to do with this online community. I've made it clear to her friends parents her vaccination status and am happy to report that none of them have cast her away.

  13. oliviaoblivia

    pineapple / 12793 posts

    I know one now.
    All of LOs friends are vaccinated.

  14. regberadaisy

    GOLD / wonderful pomegranate / 28905 posts

    I know 4 on a personal level. Two are kids of a old old Co worker and 2 are DH's cousin's kids.

  15. LuLu Mom

    GOLD / wonderful olive / 19030 posts

    As far as I'm aware, everyone we know is vaccinated.

  16. danda

    kiwi / 635 posts

    @anonysquire: I was really interested in seeing your response. I would have thought that since your little one can't receive vaccines that you might actually prefer to limit exposure to other kids who haven't received vaccines in order to reduce risk of serious illness.

  17. MrsKoala

    cantaloupe / 6869 posts

    I also don't know anyone who has not vaccinated their kids.

  18. Tanjowen

    nectarine / 2521 posts

    In my personal circle of family and friends, I only know one. Her LO was born the same week as mine, and it's never bothered me or kept our LO's from interacting, and I wasn't surprised by her decision as I know her well. Her brother-in-law, however, told her he hopes their LO dies to serve them a lesson.

    We haven't had an outbreak of anything here, but I would imagine I would wrap my LO in bubble wrap and not leave the house and suspect everyone of germ carrying, not just her LO.

  19. pui

    bananas / 9899 posts

    I know of one child who is vaccinated on a delayed schedule due to medical issues. Just another reason everyone who can should vaccinate.

  20. MrsBrewer

    coconut / 8854 posts

    I only know 1 person, one friend of mine doesn't vaccinate her daughter. Truthfully, I when we have our baby, before he/she has received their vaccines, I will not allow any contact. At least until I know that my child is fully vaccinated and protected.

    I haven't brought this up in conversation yet, so I'm interest to see how that goes when the time comes...

  21. MrsRcCar

    grapefruit / 4712 posts

    We are under vaccinated. N had a severe reaction to some vaccines. So we have to decide on vaccines carefully. We will be delaying some with E just make sure he doesn't react the same. Both my boys do not recieve the flu shot because of the reactions that N has to other shots and neither one will be vaccinated against the chicken pox until they go to school. If they go to school. We are aware of the risks but we are working closely with their doctor about the best care for them.

  22. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    @anonysquire: I honestly don't understand your position...from what you've written, your child has a medical exemption from vaccines. Totally fine with that, and I as a mother, support you in that. What's not clear to me is whether or not you support other parents in their decision to vaccinate and create the herd immunity that your daughter benefits from.

  23. littlejoy

    pomegranate / 3375 posts

    I know how viruses and science work, so keep that in mind. But, I just had a thought of: it's not like unvaccinated children are just walking around full of viruses to spread all over the world. Ha. I think some people have that subconscious notion. But, when I had my baby, everyone was a walking Petri dish who was sure to infect her with something.

    I don't really understand the idea behind not letting your vaccinated child play with an unvaccinated child? I'd love for the moms who avoid unvaccinated children to share their thoughts here. (Obviously, I inderstand why you wouldn't want your sick kid around that.)

  24. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    @littlejoy: Vaccines don't work in a small percentage of people, and as far as I know, you don't really have much warning if you're in that percentage. Personally, since it is a small percentage I would likely let a vaccinated child play with an unvaccinated one (assuming they are otherwise healthy and have no other underlying issues, of course). But I could also see people not wanting to take that risk, I suppose.

  25. Mrs. Pen

    blogger / wonderful cherry / 21616 posts

    @littlejoy: that's why I don't really care either. Just because someone is unvaccinated doesn't mean they're constantly carrying around inactivated measles or polio or something. I would understand in a place like California now taking some precautions regarding play dates given the outbreak.

  26. Rainbow Sprinkles

    eggplant / 11287 posts

    Yeah. Tons.

    We were at a birthday party last week and my kids were probably the only ones there who were vaccinated.

  27. namaste

    persimmon / 1313 posts

    My cousin's youngest isn't vaccinated because the child's father is anti-vax.

    I'm positive there's quite a few kids at our church who are anti-vax just because of the "beliefs" but the church itself has a pro vaccination stance so I'm not sure where the disconnect came from. I do recall reading one of the church's schools having a measels outbreak last year for that reason.

  28. artsyfartsy

    cantaloupe / 6692 posts

    Personally no but like @littlejoy: said it doesn't come up much in conversation in real life.

  29. plantains

    grapefruit / 4671 posts

    I don't know anyone who doesn't vaccinate, our daycare doesn't allow unvaxed kids and pretty much all DD's friends are from daycare. Honestly, I think this is a public health issue that we all have responsibility for, and I take issue with people arbitrarily making such decisions without any basis in science. I have seen first hand just what kind of terrible things this thought process can lead to. Polio made a comeback in the north of Nigeria because someone told people that vaccines and pharma companies are evil and therefore against their religion, and the devastation as a result has been terrifying. I think Hilary Clinton tweet summed up how I feel about this. "The science is clear: The earth is round, the sky is blue, and #vaccineswork. Let's protect all our kids."

  30. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    I'm not sure, we haven't discussed it. I take her to a drop-in playgroup a few days a week and I have no idea if the kids there are vaccinated or not.

  31. mrbee

    admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts

    Getting a number of flags on some of the less civil comments on this thread. Just a reminder to please refrain from personal attacks and keep things civil!

  32. photojane

    cantaloupe / 6164 posts

    All of the kids in our circle are vaccinated. We talk about it openly. It's important.

  33. coopsmama

    cantaloupe / 6059 posts

    @anonysquire: I hope you don't feel like I started this thread to point fingers at anyone! That was not my intent at all. Frankly, I will just admit right now that my children are on a delayed schedule so I would be the last to ostracize anyone because of their choices in this area.

    @littlejoy: @Mrs. Pen: I agree with these thoughts regarding letting vaccinated and unvaccinated kids socialize.

  34. anonysquire

    cantaloupe / 6923 posts

    @littlejoy: @Mrs. Pen: exactly!!!

    @coopsmama: no, not at all!

  35. plantains

    grapefruit / 4671 posts

    @Mrs. Pen: @MrsSCB: I feel like if people feel so strongly about not vaccinating without any medical or scientific reason, then they should understand why vaxers might feel strongly the other way.

  36. mrsjazz

    coconut / 8234 posts

    I have no problem with my daughter hanging out with unvaxed kids now but I worried about it when she was a baby.

  37. anonysquire

    cantaloupe / 6923 posts

    @plantains: but the sky isn't actually blue and some vaccines don't work.

  38. danda

    kiwi / 635 posts

    @Mrs. Pen: Not polio...but I was very concerned about whooping cough when my daughter was too young to be vaccinated as it's been circulating in my area a lot in the past few years (largely because that vaccine isn't as effective as some) and I did worry - to the extent of ensuring all her grandparents were current with their Tdap vaccines before she was born.

  39. plantains

    grapefruit / 4671 posts

    @anonysquire: no desire to engage with you on this subject, it is unlikely to be productive.

  40. Reese

    pomegranate / 3521 posts

    @anonysquire: I'm curious to know the answer of @looch: question, too. It might clear up some of the misunderstanding.

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