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Hmm, good question! E is a crap-napper and often refuses naps altogether after 4pm - so by the time she has had her bath (she loves her bath) she is usually hysterical!! She often screams her way through being dressed, frantically drinks her bottle then falls asleep, exhausted!! Sorry I can't be more help!!!!!

@Cherrybee: @illumina: I'm sitting here listening to my 2 week old scream while my husband gives me time to sleep. I wanted you to know that I am very jealous that you have any sort of routine. I feel like Im dying over here.

@Cherrybee: we legitimately put C to sleep every night at 5:45pm for a LONG time. It sucked and DH hardly saw her, but up that was when she wanted to sleep and she wouldn't nap that late. Eventually it pushed back and became 6, and then 6:30 and now it's 7/7:15. She slept from 6:30pm-8:30am from probably 6 months until after she turned a year, she was still taking 2, 2 hour naps too. Once they figure out their schedule and get better at sleeping, it got s SO much better.

@ladybee: I feel your pain! I had a horrible time sleeping when P was crying. It does get better though.

@illumina: I don't really have a routine either. But, I've noticed if I work hard to keep her awake until her sleepy time starts, she goes to sleep really easily. Granted, we still rock to sleep. No where near as disciplined as Mrs Squirreld!

@illumina: @Grace: @Cherrybee: thanks for the encouragement. It's really hard doing it alone. I'm supposed to sleep when DH gets home but then I miss all our time together. Plus I want to start a bedtime routine soon. Right now though, I sleep. Our ped told me to give it till 6 weeks and things would be better. I'm praying he's right!

@illumina: we are roughly following the routine from the book "save our sleep" but changing bits we don't like to "suit" us better!

@illumina: at least you won't have to wean from the swing!!! Wake up time is 7am. We wake him up then even if he is still sleeping (but he never usually is!) he gets a big feed then. So he's awake from 7am through to 8.30am. He is usually yawning by 8.15ish so it works well. But we put him down regardless of whether he is showing sleepy signs or not.

@illumina: that's probably about right since we put E down a bit earlier than you... So maybe just try keeping her up an hour and a half after she's awake/you get her up. The best thing I've learnt lately was about the sleep cycles.. E quite often fusses after napping for 30-45minutes and I used to pick him up then thinking he was awake but it's just his change in sleep cycle so I let him fuss for a minute and he usually falls back asleep -hence the nice long naps! E will wake himself up if not swaddled, he's a master at escaping them too! We had to get a miracle blanket to stop him escaping them! I wonder if once he realised his hands are his he will stop hitting himself in the face cause he does love having his hands up!

@Cherrybee: I let him fuss aslong as he is making the short tone cry (urgh urgh urgh urgh) which sometimes is up to 5 minutes(feels like a lifetime). If he escalates to the long tone cry (aaaaaaahh wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah maaaaaaaaaaaah) I go in to settle him (at night) or pick him up/nap time over (during day) Lol - does that make sense?

I just wanna say I'm beyond impressed with your 6 week old's ability to self-soothe. At 10 weeks old, my little guy is still a frantic screamer and can't self-soothe himself for anything, let alone sleep. Sigh...