bananas / 9229 posts
@lazypanda: Woooo!!!! Congrats!!! Was this your first IUI? You give me such hope!!
@MrsMcD: If I'm remembering correctly, I think it was CD5-10? I remember it being an issue because I don't O until CD20ish. My ob/gyn said just to go in between AF stopping and O but the place that does the HSG was adamant about the specific day.
coconut / 8475 posts
@lazypanda: yesss!!! Wonderful news:) congratulations!
I like that this thread starts over every week. I like to think about the positives of each week. It was hard this week because it has been so uneventful. But that is a good thing too! I actually *like* being on the pill this cycle because I don't have to over-analyze every single twinge and don't have to look every time I wipe. I am just enjoying taking a break, but being productive as well, in that, we are finishing all of our testing and leaving no stone unturned this cycle.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@lazypanda: CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so happy for you. You are such a sweet girl. I'm hoping and praying for a happy and healthy 9 months for you and baby.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@Sprite: Oh, friend. I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope you can keep trying naturally until you gear back up for your treatments.
bananas / 9628 posts
@Sprite: so sorry for your loss we look forward to seeing you back as soon as you're ready
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@Happygal: I'm hoping and praying that is the case for me! My DH (under the same insurance) paid $0 for his SA. So I'm hoping all my tests are covered the same. Thank you for sharing your experience.
@FliegepilzHut: I don't know what you mean by "monitoring." I will be under the care of a doctor, but I won't be going in for constant ultrasounds. I think I would simply be taking clomid for five days and then having timed intercourse. I know a lot of girls on HB are all about "monitoring." Can you please share the reason behind this? As for the HSG well wishes, thank you so much! I hope I get it scheduled soon.
@septca: and @LindsayInNY: thanks for your input re: the timing of the HSG. I was curious to know if it happened before O and if there was a chance to get lucky during the exact cycle that the HSG occurs.
bananas / 9628 posts
I'm so annoyed right now. The dr was supposed to do my pre op via phone because she was far away today. It was at 11:30. We have guests coming tonight but I didn't want to have food or cleaning stuff on my hands and miss the call, so I waited... And waited... Nothin. Waited 45mins before calling the office I go to, no one is there. Called the office far away where the dr is today, oops, they forgot. The FORGOT my appt & I can't have the surgery unless I have it! The lady in the office said she'd try to squeeze it in later, so what, I just sit around waiting for the phone to ring & hope it's at a time where it's appropriate to be talking about my vag?! Dude. I am not happy. I'm paying out my ass to be able to have this done, pick up your damn phone woman!
Sorry. I'm really frustrated.
apricot / 288 posts
@lazypanda: Oh my gosh YAYYYY!!!!! Can't wait for your updates later!!!
pomelo / 5000 posts
@MrsMcD: I'm one of those "all about the monitoring" girls! For Clomid, here are some of the reasons--it can thin out your lining, so ultrasounds measure for that. It can cause cysts, so you can check for that. And you might respond by growing lots of follicles, so you want to make sure you are safe! Blood work at the end is the true way to confirm you ovulated.
@mrs. bird: I was wondering how things went today for you. I'm so sorry--that is really frustrating! What were they to cover today?
pomelo / 5000 posts
@sprite: I'm sorry for your loss. I hate that you have to join us again here.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3688 posts
@MrsMcD: YEP! In fact, you apparently have an increased chance of getting KU for the first 3 cycles after an HSG because it "clears out the cobwebs," according to my doctor. They won't do it after O because of the liability risk should you be KU.
apricot / 288 posts
@mrs. bird: Ugh that's so frustrating. I hope they call you back this afternoon. I'd call again an hour or so before the office closes to "remind" them. Good luck!
coconut / 8475 posts
@mrs. bird: I'm livid for you! I hope they get their ish together!
pomelo / 5000 posts
SOCK EXCHANGE! I am late, but I haven't forgotten. I got behind with our camping weekend, but promise to get it off this week! Hang tight, my friend.
persimmon / 1085 posts
@lazypanda AHH! So exciting! I see the two lines! Can't wait to hear your beta. Congrats!!
@mrs. bird: Oh man, that is awful!! I hope you get a call and an apology from the doctor soon!!
@MrsMcD: I, too, am definitely pro-monitoring when it comes to Clomid. For all the reasons HappyGal said. Your lining is important, and what if you have too many follicles? You could risk high-multiples. Better to have an ultrasound to be on the safe side.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@Happygal: and @Jenn23: Thanks for telling me about the monitoring. I absolutely get those concerns. I'm totally going to stick with non-monitoring for three months because I'm cheap and its free.
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@MrsMcD: How would they/you "time" intercourse without monitoring and knowing what was happening? I did 2 rounds of unmonitored with my OB. The second one didn't even work for me and I ended up waiting until CD35 until I ovulated. If I was being monitored, I would have definitely known sooner that nothing was happening. They can also monitor the adverse effects that Clomid can have on the lining, if it's too poor, then once again you know right away that Clomid isnt the drug for you. Many people are successful with it, but if cost isnt' an issue, I think it's always better to have more info and know for sure with the monitoring.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@PurplePumps: Unfortunately cost is totally an issue for me. Were you having issues with ovulation before you took the clomid? I'm so very sorry that clomid didn't work for you. But I'm clinging to the stories I have heard from girls (IRL and online) who got pregnant with an easy round of unmonitored clomid and TI. And I haven't heard of a single story about a girl who irrevocably damaged her body because of a few months of unmonitored clomid. Lastly, I'm trusting my doctor wouldn't recommend a frivolous, even harmful, course of action. But I am always looking to gather more information. Obviously... that's why I'm on the 'bee!
pear / 1846 posts
@mrs. bird: that is awful. Do they not realise how important all this is to people. Really makes me mad!
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@mrs. bird: That's very unprofessional to completely forget an important scheduled phone call. I'm so sorry. I hope you can get that call in today. When does the call need to occur for you to go forward with your surgery as scheduled?
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@MrsMcD: I just have really long cycles, typically 40-49 days. Other than that, all tests are normal. I don't think it'll do any permanent damage, but it could just be frustrating wasted time, but I totally get it is cost was a factor. Each monitoring session only runs me about $20 2 or 3 times a month, so it's not too bad. Hopefully you'll be one of the lucky ones with a easy Clomid story.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@PurplePumps: Gees. Sorry about your long cycles. At least they aren't as long as others I've heard about. #silverlinings.... That's amazing that you have monitored sessions so readily available to you. I'd have to move on to an RE and I'm fairly positive my particular insurance doesn't cover such elective-type treatments. I'm hoping we both get our bfps soon!
persimmon / 1085 posts
@MrsMcD: Hey there, I know you have already made up your mind, but just based on your last comment, I felt the need to tell you that damage can and does happen from unmonitored Clomid cycles. I had a HUGE cyst (28mm) that my RE was watching via ultrasound during my second Clomid/IUI cycle. Anyway, it ended up rupturing the next day and luckily I knew what was happening. Long story short...ended up at the ER, next month had surgery. It was a blood-filled cyst that caused excruciating pain and problems. ANyway, without monitoring I wouldn't have known. Also, there have been women with cysts that have ruptured and they have lost their tubes in the process. I highly recommend monitoring for safety reasons.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@Jenn23: Oh shoot! That's so scary that you developed a cyst that ruptured even while being monitored. How did the monitoring help you in that situation? I suppose you would have eventually known based upon the amount of pain that you described. But by that point, would it have been "too late"? Do you know what would have happened to you had you not been monitored? What did the ER do to help your ruptured cyst?
Even despite the few bad experiences I am hearing about on HB, I am still clinging to the few successful experiences I'm hearing about from friends IRL. But I'm continually praying for health and positive pregnancies for myself and all the lovely ladies here who have to seek out fertility interventions such as the ones we are discussing.
persimmon / 1085 posts
@MrsMcD: It was awful. I hadn't known that Clomid can cause cysts to rupture so I was quite shocked. The pain was unreal. I went to the ER, they gave my morphine and ended up admitting me over night because the pain was so intense. I tried to take as little morphine as possible in case I was pregnant. It was awful. Then later thru an ultrasound they found blood had leaked everywhere so it was a "bad" cyst and so I needed surgery a few weeks later. It was nuts. But in a way, I guess it was good, because during that surgery, he found my remaining tube (only have one) was damaged, so IVF was the only way. At least we then knew why nothing was working for us. So 6 months later we did IVF! I hope you get your BFP very, very soon!!!
clementine / 901 posts
@MrsMcD: Butting in (sorry) to echo what the other girls have said about monitoring. I understand wanting to go into this not spending any more than you have to but your health and safety have to have high priority too. There are dangerous situations that can arise while taking clomid and monitoring prevents those instances from happening.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@Jenn23: Yikes. I'm so sorry about all of that. I'm planning to do an HSG before taking clomid so I hope to learn that my tubes are okay. I just sort of have unexplained issues at this point and am trusting my doctor because I basically have a female crush on her and think she's so brilliantly intelligent. What else can I really do at this point? And I'm so very glad that you got your baby after IVF. You are a happy girl, I can tell.
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@MrsTal: I love to hear all of the girls who have such strong opinions about the need for monitoring. But see above re: the trust I place with my doctor whom I love dearly.
And it seems that even monitoring can't really protect a girl. See above re: @Jenn23: 's poor cyst rupture.
And I know girls IRL and girls on here who have done unmonitored clomid so I don't see how I can be swayed from my planned course. And I totally know I may come back to this post a year from now and look like a total ass. But I'm trusting I won't DIE from clomid or render myself barren, God help me.
cantaloupe / 6086 posts
@lazypanda: I am soooooo behind on this thread - but yay!!! I've never had a FRER be wrong (and I bet you will get a positive wondfo by tomorrow).
persimmon / 1085 posts
@MrsMcD: I wasn't stating that my RE could stop the cyst from rupturing, but by having monitoring they can help with many different things. RE's can stop your cycle if something is going wrong, whereas without monitoring you'd never know. Actually the biggest thing is the amount of follicles you have. As stated before, if you have too many, you probably don't want to get pregnant, because you could have triplets, quads, or more! RE's stop your cycle if you respond too well to Clomid. Also the lining is a huge factor. If your lining is too thin (mine actually was borderline low the one cycle) it won't work. Also, you won't know what dose to take without monitoring. For example, many women don't respond to 50mg, so the doctor bumps them up to 100mg or even 150mg the next cycle. Without monitoring, you really have no idea if you are ovulating, how many follicles, if your lining is good, etc. OK, I won't say anything else. I know you are going forward with it, but I just wanted to make sure you knew of these things. It sounds like you already were/are aware, though. Good luck!
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@Jenn23: You are so sweet.. Thanks for all this passionate input. I can understand your position given what happened to you. I promise to be the most cautious I can while clinging to what's free under my insurance.
pear / 1556 posts
@Sprite: I am so sorry for your loss!
@CupQuakeWalk: I felt the same way when I started BCP. I was almost relieved.
@mrs. bird: That is beyond frustrating! I really don't think they understand how stressful these situations are for people and what people go through. I am so sorry!
bananas / 9628 posts
@MrsMcD: @Snowdrop: @Jenn23: @CupQuakeWalk: @Kelli_Deluxe: @Happygal: She just called! Yay surgery is a go, boo that was the most rushed and incomplete pre op ever for a scheduled procedure. I didn't even get to ask all my questions she's going to have anesthesia call to talk about what I can have for anxiety. I wanted to ask her if it's worrisome that I've been having daily period like cramps ever since the HSG (even now on BC), not all day, but at least a few every day, but I didn't get a chance. If I see her while lucid, I'll ask Friday, but my goal is to be incoherent for as much if the day as possible
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@MrsMcD: The monitoring is actually with an RE. After the first two unmonitored cycles with the OB, I was ready just move on to IVF for even higher chances. My husband wanted to try IUI's per the RE's suggestion though so we're on the second round of that. I'm a control freak, so I'm glad I can get monitored and know exactly what's going on.
How much would it be out of pocket for you to do the monitoring? Is it an OB or RE prescribing you the Clomid?
GOLD / pomegranate / 3938 posts
@mrs. bird: I'm so glad you are proceeding as planned. But I'm so sorry to hear you are having post-HSG pains.
@PurplePumps: So I'm totally getting ahead of myself with all of this because I'm not even ready to move on to Clomid yet! My normal obgyn just mentioned it yesterday as the final step she would do at her office. I'm so glad that the control-freak in you is being satisfied with the monitoring!
Once I move on to an RE, I don't know how much I'd have to pay. I have no clue. But until then, I'm happy to utilize the insurance-covered options available to me. What if I'm one of those lucky girls who gets pregnant with unmonitored clomid and TI? That's my hope. If not, I'll move on with the rest of you! Until them, good luck to us all!
pomegranate / 3809 posts
@MrsMcD: ooh, yea, obs don't monitor, they try the easy fix which works for some. It's worth a shot. I doubt my iuis will work, but for a $40, I gotta try it just in case...
bananas / 9229 posts
@MrsMcD: Can you doctor tell you what certain costs will be ahead of time? Assuming it's not insanely expensive, I wonder if there's a benefit to even doing one ultrasound at some point to either confirm you've Oed (or blood work) or something? That way you don't have to incur costs for multiple appointments? At the end of the day, you seemed armed with a lot of knowledge to make the best decision for you.
pomelo / 5000 posts
@MrsMcD: yes, there are good success stories here at HB, and I'm glad you know people IRL life it has worked for as well. I hope it does the trick for you the very first time!
You may also consider asking your doctor about Femara/letrozole--it is another oral drug that works by having your ovulate more than once. It doesn't thin out your uterine lining like Clomid.
@mrs. bird: sounds like a good plan to me!
@lazypanda: what was your husband's reaction? What a great anniversary present!!!!
pear / 1846 posts
@mrs. bird: phew, glad you got your pre op!
What does everyone think about a 7.2 mm lining? My doctor said it wasn't terrible but she likes to see between 8-10 mm. Being napro though they have very stringent criteria for what they accept as good. I was wondering what other people's docs thought of this (holding on to a bit of hope that I could conceive this cycle with the progesterone support)
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