My family member is moving to Europe and we are considering a visit. LO will be just under age 2.
Has anyone traveled with a lap infant that was older?
My family member is moving to Europe and we are considering a visit. LO will be just under age 2.
Has anyone traveled with a lap infant that was older?
hostess / wonderful honeydew / 32460 posts
I traveled 4-5 hours with DD on my lap when she was 18 months old and I was 20ish weeks pregnant. Omg torture!
How long is the flight?
pomelo / 5678 posts
@chopsuey: omg! Was it just you or was your SO or someone with you? That sounds horrible! Chicago to Zurich is probably 9 hours but we'd have a change so... 12 total. Omg hell! I hate traveling (the act of it) especially with dh who isn't seasoned
grapefruit / 4584 posts
I flew Hong Kong to New York (about 16 hours) alone with my then-17 month old while 14 weeks pregnant. It wasn't fun, and I was exhausted at the end because neither of us slept muchy, but it was still doable.
If you book the bassinet seat (even though your child may be too large to use it), you'll be likely to end up with an empty middle seat next to you (they try to leave it open as a courtesy), but with as packed as most international flights are these days, you're hedging your bets. Also, generally the armrests don't go up, and in terms of actually getting that seat, some airlines will make the bassinet row available first to passengers with premier status from flying a lot of miles or those with younger babies who will actually need to sleep in the bassinet.
All that said....if it's just from the east coast to Europe (5-6 hours), I don't think it'll be that bad, especially if you have a 2 adults to 1 child ratio so you can each take breaks. It's also worth investing in a CARES harness or Safe Rider so you can buckle your child into a seat next to you for sleeping/watching the iPad in case you do get a spare seat.
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
I flew with Olive when she was 22 months as a lap infant, but she was still nursing. We took 8 flights and she was totally fine. It is her personality though... don't think I could have done that with Charlie at the same age!
pear / 1672 posts
Following because we're contemplating something like this this summer.
grapefruit / 4584 posts
Just saw your other response - layovers can actually work in your favor (to tire LO out, let them run around and be noisy, etc). We used to book tight connections when it was just the two of us to avoid them, but now with LO we book longer ones so we can take our time changing gates/terminals and let her play.
Everything is relative - as a seasoned traveler with and without LO, I absolutely say GO - the experience should be worth it. But if your DH will be a big ball of stress the whole time, and that'll stress you out....it might not be worth it depending on how much time you have to spend at your destination, and how relaxed you'll be able to be once you're there.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
I go in and out of Zurich pretty regularly and am familiar with the airlines and planes if you want any specific information.
What's your first point of entry into the US on your way back, that would actually be where you have to get off, get your luggage and go through customs, so it might be helpful if you're going via JFK/American Airlines as they're in their own terminal.
pomelo / 5678 posts
@Mrs. Bee: @PinkElephant: if lo does not get a spare seat... do /did you just have lo on your lap or can you both buckle in... with the same buckle? Please forgive me if that is a stupid question!
pomelo / 5678 posts
@looch: I hadn't even thought of that yet, thank you for the pointers! I will have to plan that as well... and I haven't been through Zurich in ten years so I might ask your suggestions!
hostess / wonderful honeydew / 32460 posts
@Greentea: I flew solo with DD, but we flew first class so it was a little less painful I thought I was going to die when she napped on me though. Could not breathe.
Man, flying with kids is such a pain in the butt, but it'll be worth it when you reach your destination! Good luck!
pineapple / 12566 posts
We flew Europe to US when DS was 18 months and he was a lap child. That flight was particularly bad because he got sick and threw up all over me. Mid flight. It was awful. Even if he had had his own seat, I probably would have been holding him when he got sick. Yuck. The return flight a few weeks later was totally fine. Moral of the story, bring a change of clothes for yourself, just in case.
As for buckling in if you don't have a spare seat, American companies usually just let you hold the child. European ones often have a seatbelt attachment that attaches to your seatbelt and then buckles around the child's waist, to be used for takeoff and landing.
admin / watermelon / 14210 posts
@Greentea: you just hold your lo and do not buckle them in.
squash / 13764 posts
We JUST got back (this morning!) from an international trip, 10 horus there, 12 hours back; LO is 17 months old. Not going to lie, it was pretty uncomfortable! but we survived! We bought him his own seat, however, and I am really glad we did--even though he was in our laps a lot of the time, it was really nice to be able to put him in his own seat (with the carseat in it) and have him read a book or have a snack, watch a show, etc. I think it really depends on your kid's personality though--no way my LO would be happy to sit in our laps for multiple hours, he likes his own space!
pomegranate / 3983 posts
Yes we flew with LO at 23.5 months. It's kind of a PITA but not more than forking over dough for an extra ticket so, you know...it is what it is.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
@Greentea: yeah sure, let me know.
The Zurich airport also has a fabulous kids area you can use pre boarding. We spend as much time as possible there.
coconut / 8430 posts
We just got back this morning from Japan with our 19 month old. It was a 9 hr flight there and 8 hr back. We didn't buy her a seat but flew business there and economy back. The business seat was obviously much more comfortable since it was wider and she could sit next to me. There was a ton more space for her to wander around as well.
In econ, we got the bulkhead seats and the bassinet. My LO sat in the bassinet only for a little while and completely refused to sleep in there. It was uncomfortable but honestly no worse than when she was sleeping on me when we were traveling using trains.
My LO won't sit by herself for very long, if at all. She likes being in my lap. She wouldn't have used her seat so I'm glad we didn't get her one.
apricot / 475 posts
I think it totally depends on your LO, we've flown multiple times internationally but mostly shorter flights and LO goes crazy after 2 hours. Last flight I spent the last hour trying to keep him out of the toilets where we wanted to play with the water and the tissues.
If you have a child that doesn't mind sitting still you'll be fine. If you have one that doesn't sit still more than 30 seconds it'll be painful. But either way, you'll get through it.
grapefruit / 4819 posts
We've flown internationally with DD1 as a lap infant a lot and it hasn't been too bad. Last time we flew, she was 18 months and we spent a lot of time walking the aisles.
We have some big flights ahead of us now just before DD1 turns two and I'm dreading them. She'll be 22 months when we do the ridiculously long Australia to the US flights at the end of April, then 23 months, just a few days shy of her second birthday when we fly from the US to the UK - she'll be a lap infant on all flights....and we'll have our three/four month old as well. Super excited, ha.
One thing we're doing with our toddler is getting her used to a bit of screen time so we can use that as a means of distraction on the flights. She hasn't ever watched tv and hasn't really had much exposure to the iPad, but we're going to want her to be able to be entertained by that stuff on these long flights! We've started introducing her to some toddler games on the iPad now so she'll be excited about them on the plane. We'll see how it goes...
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