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Making a Pool Kid-Safe Temporarily for a Party - is this possible?

  1. hummusgirl

    persimmon / 1233 posts

    @PawPrints: I respectfully disagree. Sure a lifeguard would be ideal but we're not talking about a pool party where there's chaos and they're specially trained to look out for the one person out of many who's drowning, it's literally watching an empty pool and the area around it. I'm not a trained lifeguard but I would trust myself to do it.

    If I were the OP, I'd probably do a few things: 1) hire a teenager or two to watch the pool, 2) put up some kind of barrier (like stakes in the ground with some pennants) and tell the kids not to go past it, and 3) watch my kids like a hawk, dividing and conquering with my husband if needed. I think the scariest thing is when you and your partner each think the other is watching the kids and in reality no one is. It wouldn't be as fun for us unfortunately, but oh well.

  2. Iced Tea

    persimmon / 1310 posts

    It sounds like they aren't motivated to remedy the issue. I would probably tell her that it's too anxiety provoking for you guys attending a busy party with an unsecured pool. I'd stress that she doesn't understand how quickly a pool can turn deadly for a small child, therefore, you guys are going to have to skip it. There's a small chance it will make her think, but I wouldn't count on it. Later, when she has a child, she'll likely realize why you took it so seriously. I'd also inform the cousins with small children so they can make an informed decision for themselves.

  3. Iced Tea

    persimmon / 1310 posts

    @birdofafeather: I think that sounds like a good plan.

  4. Banana330

    nectarine / 2317 posts

    What about lifejackets for the kids.. they can't go outside without one on... I once babysat on an island and that was the rule, if you went out side you had to be wearing lifejacket if you were under 10.

  5. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    I know it's not ideal, but the medical center where I work recommends that at pool parties you have an adult designated as pool watcher at all times (even going so far as to have a special hat or something for the pool watcher to wear) and to switch who's doing it every 15 minutes. So there's always an adult whose sole job is to be watching the pool. Obviously you would need to trust whichever adults were taking on this responsibility.

  6. JenGirl

    clementine / 756 posts

    Yup. That would make me super nervous. Drowing is one of the leading causes of death in toddlers. I think it would be a great idea to hire a non-guest to watch the pool. A trained lifeguard would be ideal, but I'd feel much more at ease, with even a reliable teenager or adult who agrees to watch the pool the entire time with no checking their phone or other distractions (have them ask the host to take over if they need to run to the bathroom). While a lifeguard would be great, I'm not a lifeguard, but feel reasonably certain I could fish my kid out of an empty backyard swimming pool, should he fall in.

    If a full on fence isn't feasible, I like the idea of flags that create a line that you can tell the kids they can't go past and have the person watching the pool enforce that.

    On top of all that, I'd still keep a close eye on my kiddos, but I'd be comfortable going.

  7. PawPrints

    pomegranate / 3658 posts

    @hummusgirl: The person would be hired for the purpose of rescuing a child who was already in the water. Without a fence, the likelihood is that a kid is going to end up in the water - one hired attendant is not going to be able to prevent kids from running in because they can't physically block the entire perimeter. So you're paying that person to save the life of a child who is already drowning. Lifeguards are trained in how to retrieve a person from the water in a way that is less likely to injure them (a significant risk), and they are trained in CPR/first response once the child is back on land.

  8. BSB

    hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts

    So will the pool be used by the adults? I assumed it would be too cold to be used, which is why I suggested the rented pool cover.

  9. MamaG

    pomelo / 5298 posts

    @birdofafeather: I think your approach is completely reasonable at this point.

    I will say this, we are pool owners and our pool is not fenced (yard is). This is a choice we have made, and I get that many people will call us irresponsible. But I also realize the seriousness of the pool. It's why we don't host other children in our home and why we don't spend much time in our backyard. My 5 year old is finally to the point where I trust her to be more than an arms reach from me in our back yard without a puddle jumper on. My 2 year old, no way!

    We were at a 5 year old birthday party recently where the situation was similar. Indoor/outdoor activities - kids and adults coming and going. The home had a pool, no pool fence. I was okay with my 5 year old but kept an eye on her. There were other parents there (non pool owners) that were really nervous as their kids aren't exposed to the situation as often. Had I been aware of the situation in advance we would have likely declined the invite.

  10. birdofafeather

    pineapple / 12053 posts

    @bluestriped bee: it's a non standard size/shape so that's why they haven't purchased a cover for it themselves. from my hazy recollection, a fancy pool cover from a rental place was thousands. i think renting a fence would be more cost effective.

  11. BSB

    hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts

    @birdofafeather: Oh, gotcha.

  12. Mrsbells

    squash / 13199 posts

    @birdofafeather: I have a witnessed a drowning that nearly took a life so I am with you 100% on the need to get the pool secure. It only takes a few minutes for a child to drown and its very hard to keep track of every single child at every minute when theres a lot going on. I personally wouldnt be ok with them not having a fence. To me thats not being a responsible pool owner

  13. mrswin

    nectarine / 2433 posts

    @birdofafeather: is a cover like this an option? My parents have one to prevent the dog from falling in...lol



  14. LemonJack

    persimmon / 1130 posts

    Reading this literally made my heart start to race. I have a 2.5 year old who is FAST and has no fear, and I would have a miserable time at a party like that because I would be so nervous the entire time.

  15. gingerbebe

    cantaloupe / 6131 posts

    ARGH HB ate my post!

    We just had this problem at my aunt's house for Thanksgiving in LA. They have an unfenced pool, but we always stay inside for the meal. Despite the fact that everything is held indoors, DH and I have always been hyper vigilant about one of us hovering near the sliding glass door or staying by our 2-year old son, who LOVES the water and is super fast. This year, everyone kept opening the sliding door because the kitchen was hot and I kept slamming it closed and locking it the whole afternoon while sticking to my toddler and managing a 6 month old. It was exhausting and we left in under 2 hours. There are other kids in the family, but we have the youngest ones so no one cares about the pool safety thing but us.

    I think if I were in your shoes and the party was actively going to be held indoors and outdoors, I would make DS wear his swim vest. We own this one - its super cheap, very light, he can play just fine in it, and it keeps him buoyant:

    http://a.co/iQnKQ0O

    For your younger child, I would imagine someone would always be watching her, but if you're still worried, I would rock this guy:

    http://a.co/dejUCi3

    That doesn't solve the issue of securing the pool for the other children attending, but it would at least make a point to your ILs that the pool is not safe.

    Also, if they aren't going to fix the pool in the near future, I would seriously consider sending your kids to ISR school.

    https://www.infantswim.com/

  16. Mamaof2

    squash / 13208 posts

    @birdofafeather: curious if there was an update on this

  17. birdofafeather

    pineapple / 12053 posts

    @Mamaof2: I spoke to my MIL a few days after I posted when they were visiting. She totally understood my concern and said quickly, don't worry, I'll make sure it's taken care of!

    And I followed up with her today and she said that they actually ordered a mesh fence on Amazon (probably one link above!!) and it's gonna be installed before the party! I breathed a huge sigh of relief. Now we can enjoy the party a little bit more without worrying about such a big hazard!

  18. T.H.O.U.

    wonderful clementine / 24134 posts

    @birdofafeather: that's great. And something she needed anyway with a LO on the way.

  19. ALV91711

    pomelo / 5621 posts

    @birdofafeather: Glad to hear this. You will definitely enjoy the party more now.

  20. Mamaof2

    squash / 13208 posts

    @birdofafeather: great news!!! That must be such a relief!

  21. Cole

    grapefruit / 4649 posts

    I'm at glad to hear they ordered a fence! You originally posted this right when I found out we are going on a trip with my in laws and the house they rented has a pool right outside the door (so nothing between the door and the pool) and I'm terrified. I may order that pool alarm, it's so expensive for a week but my mil and fil are oblivious about stuff like keeping the door closed and it could be a disaster. If anyone has another suggestion though I'm all ears!

  22. FaithFertility

    eggplant / 11861 posts

    @birdofafeather: Great update!

    We are going to my mom's house which has a unfenced pool because it is in a screened in porch area, and half is actually in the house but surrounded by glass, weird set up I know!

    DH works that night so I am talkin DD 2 and DS 2 months by myself!

    Even though I am around family and not that many people it scares me because DH isn't there to split kiddo responsibilities!

    I metioned it to my mom today and her response......
    Ohh someone whould hear her fall in
    Ummm not what I wanted to hear MOM, how about I will help watch her or DS now I have anxiety!

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