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  1. swedishfish

    GOLD / coconut / 8266 posts

    @BrentLee88: @Mrs. Jump Rope: ok, this isn't your blog. This is a forum where users interact with each other. Mrs. Jump Rope is no way trying to be negative. We both have seen REs and are trying to explain to you our (similar) experiences. If you were truly seeing an RE he/she would be monitoring you while on Clomid every step of the way. There is supposed to be a limit on the number of times you can take Clomid in your entire LIFE so why would you want to waste one of those times without proper monitoring?

  2. Mrs. Jump Rope

    blogger / coconut / 8306 posts

    @BrentLee88: whoa, trigger. This was exciting to wake up to.

    First, this isn't your blog. This is a forum.

    Secondly, I really don't care who you see for IF treatments. You asked for advice, and I gave it. So did other women who've been down this road.

    REs follow a set protocol, so if you read the IF boards you'll see that each of us went through similar testing and had similar protocol for IF treatments. Dosage of IF meds and timing may be different for each woman, but monitoring is the same. It exists for a reason. IF drugs shouldn't be taken blindly.

    I get that this could be a financial/insurance decision for some women. Instead of saying "I don't know what they'll cover", you should research your insurance plan and find out.

    You should be your own advocate and fighting for your body. You're pretty uneducated about this process and we are trying to inform you.

    Do you know what OHSS is? Let me tell you a super fun little story. Back in October, I was doing a round of clomid and started getting really sick. I gained weight and was so bloated I couldn't button my pants. I was in severe pain and was dizzy, and having trouble seeing. My RE had me stop taking Clomid, brought me in for an ultrasound and gave me a trigger shot. Did your OB explain ohss to you? Tell you the protocol if you have symptoms? Explain the extreme danger of it? Did anyone talk to you about the increased chance of multiples on a Clomid, and the potential risks that poses on your body? My husband and I had to sign a consent form.

    I've had two successful pregnancies through my RE. Both times, coincidentally, required monitoring on a Sunday morning. Does your OB have that capability? Who is going to cancel your cycle if you have 3+ follicles? Did anyone tell you when to take OPKs?

    Do your research. LEARN. Don't bitch at me. I'm not being negative. I'm telling you the reality of IF treatments.

  3. BrentLee88

    apricot / 428 posts

    @swedishfish: I know you only have so many times to take clomid, buts its easier said then done seeing a whole new RE, specially if you have all ready spent so much money on just getting this far, would be like starting all over again, i am just so lost between what everyone is saying that i really am confused about it all, i live in a small town and there is really no RE's here so if i do end up switching the RE i am seeing now that is still 2 hours away i would have to drive 3-4 hours every couple days just to go to them, at this point its easier for me to stick to someone closer because we work all the time and its hard enough making time 2-3 times a week for appointments don't get me wrong its worth it all, and the drive but to just get whole new opinions is stressful to me, its all ready been hard learning that i have hypothyroidism and pcos, at this point i am scared i wont even be able to have children because of it.

  4. BrentLee88

    apricot / 428 posts

    @Mrs. Jump Rope: That all makes sense to me now, i am just so new at all this i have no idea on what to do, and i did do research on our insurance and they gave me a list of what it covers and don't cover, I had no idea about OHSS they never explained it to me, they did explain the multiples though and i am aware on how dangerous it can be, yes i am pretty uneducated about all this because i am new at it, i am just learning about all this, i never thought i would have to be the one going threw all of this stuff, i thought it would be so much easier, but at this point i am starting to lose hope if i am not getting the right treatments that i should.. looks like i may have to take a different route from what all of you are saying which is going to be difficult for me.

  5. Mrs. Jump Rope

    blogger / coconut / 8306 posts

    @BrentLee88: you're contradicting yourself a lot. Someone else suggested you could be doing the clomid challenge test. Before deciding that's what you're doing, why don't you check with your doctor?

    And you said that you didn't know what your insurance would cover, but now you're saying the coverage is limited.

    So what is it?

  6. swedishfish

    GOLD / coconut / 8266 posts

    @BrentLee88: I have PCOS and just recently had a thyroid issue. It's really not the end of the world. They're very manageable conditions. I have a LO and am pregnant with #2. I had to go through IVF but that's because we have male and female factor infertility.

    Look, I was new to all of this too at one point. My former OB's office wanted to put me on Clomid without monitoring and do an IUI. I asked them what would happen if I ovulate on a weekend and they told me they just couldn't help me that cycle. That was an unacceptable answer to me.

    So I took my journey into my own hands and sought out my RE. I also called my insurance to find out what would be covered. I did my own research. That's what you need to do too. You are your biggest advocate. No one cares about your journey more than you do. It's OK to question the doctors.

  7. BrentLee88

    apricot / 428 posts

    @Mrs. Jump Rope: I talked to my doctor last night again just because i had a few more questions and they said it is a clomid challenge just to see if this will make me ovulate even though i now know how dangerous it can be, I didn't have a clue what my insurance did cover because they never wrote which ones on the list until i called them this morning and found out which ones, apparently it just doesn't cover ultrasounds and ivf's

  8. BrentLee88

    apricot / 428 posts

    @swedishfish: Thank You! i am glad it isn't as bad as people make it out to be, that's what i will do then i have been looking up RE's all morning.

  9. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    Well, I just lost an entire message. I just wanted to say that hypothyroidism and PCOS (and the infertility associated with them) are frequently treatable with medications...it just may take a little longer than "average" to get pregnant. But please make sure you EDUCATE yourself through this process. The HB boards are great...but make sure to ask your doctor(s) about their expectations for your treatment course, risks/how likely those risks are to occur, and next steps, in case you don't respond to a certain treatment...then keep asking questions, until you're sure that you understand the plan. A lot of us have been in the IF trenches for years...but hopefully, because of your age, the fact that both hypothyroidism and PCOS are treatable with medicine, and the fact that you're already in contact with a good RE, that won't be you. But it pays to read up on this stuff (Taking Charge of Your Fertility is a great book) and at least treat these as if they are long-haul issues, even though, if you are lucky enough to ovulate with Clomid, you may be able (preferably with monitoring) to become pregnant within a few months. Hang in there...and try not to stress too much!!! BTW: forgive the tone, almost all of the folks on the IF boards have been dealing with this for a VERY long time and have seen/experienced some things they would've rather not. Do you mind if I ask how long you and DH were trying before your diagnosis? Was your first appt with Dr. Friedman last month?

  10. BrentLee88

    apricot / 428 posts

    @FliegepilzHut: thank you! we have been trying for 2 years and yes my first appointment with the RE was last month

  11. Robyn_ZA

    grape / 78 posts

    @BrentLee88: I have pcos and finished my first round of Clomid recently. I had scans every 2 weeks (for 2ish months) till i got to a cyst-free day that we could plan a period and then move onto Clomid at the right time.

    While on Clomid, I had a scan at cd9 (a monday) which showed loads of little follicles (typical pcos), miniscule womb lining (which clomid notoriously doesnt help with) and endo starting on the right ovary. I had to go back on the friday for a follow up scan. It showed that nothing had happened follicle wise, i had less lining and the endo had grown.

    I can totally understand a test cycle of sorts, but without the scans I feel you're missing out on learning from it We could eliminate Clomid as an option there and then as I had been on a high dose for an extended period and was nowhere closer to ovulating then if we left my ovaries to their own devices.

    A scan would show you that yes, you ovulated, but you didn't conceive so its HSG time. Or no ovulation so we need to relook at meds and dosages.

    I'm notoriously impatient so have seriously struggled with all the waiting periods etc. Having all the tests done - hsg, semen analysis, hormone panels on different days -before beginning to intervene to conceive cuts out a lot of wasted cycles. You also know upfront what sort of long distance hurdle race you're in for till the baby at the finish line.

  12. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @BrentLee88: I'm so sorry...and glad that your OB sent you to an RE! FX that it won't take too much longer for you!

  13. LindsayInNY

    bananas / 9229 posts

    Not sure how much I can add that wasn't already said...

    I second @FliegepilzHut: recommendation about reading "Taking Charge of Your Fertility." There's also a free, similar book through FertilityFriend.com A lot of people know very little about their body and their cycle before TTC so it's a learning experience for all of us. Myself included as I'm seeing a RE too. Before TTC, I never knew there was a limit to Clomid or a need to be monitored. Those are things I've learned along the way. But, like everyone else said, you need to be your biggest advocate. Read and research things - PCOS, thyroid issues, Clomid, everything. Write down questions for the doctor and take notes when he talks, if that will help you remember things. Also, I would recommend calling your insurance company to ask about your coverage so you know how much everything may be costing you.

  14. BrentLee88

    apricot / 428 posts

    @Robyn_ZA: Thank you for the advice! and i really hope everything gets better for you!! wishing you the best of luck on your Journey God Bless!!

  15. BrentLee88

    apricot / 428 posts

    @LindsayInNY: Thank you i am looking into getting that book this weekend at some point and i now know that i need to do more research and be my best advocate like you said, thanks for the advice! and i wish you the best of luck as well! God Bless!

  16. BrentLee88

    apricot / 428 posts

    @FliegepilzHut: thanks! me 2! god bless! i wish you bets of luck as well!!

  17. FliegepilzHut

    pomegranate / 3533 posts

    @BrentLee88: Thank you!

  18. Robyn_ZA

    grape / 78 posts

    @BrentLee88: Total pleasure We all need all the help we can get when trying to work out what issues we have and the best plan forward.

  19. BrentLee88

    apricot / 428 posts

    @FliegepilzHut: your welcome

  20. BrentLee88

    apricot / 428 posts

    @Robyn_ZA: we sure do

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