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  1. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    @Nutella: well, I didn't temp today because I was up a lot last night....so that's a start? It was pretty difficult for me to get back in the habit of it, so I'm hesitant to stop all together again, but it might be best to.

  2. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    I'm on the fence about temping too. I picked it up because I feel like if I have a clue what's going on, I will be less anxious. But I haven't used OPKs because I feel like that's a black hole and once you start, you can't stop.

    But I'm also about to begin Creighton charting (mucous focused instead of temp based) and am wondering if I'll be able to give up the temping or not. I'd LOVE to not have to wake up early every morning, but I'm not convinced my body is "normal" enough to rely on mucous signs alone (I have allergies and take daily meds that can affect mucous, and I'm not convinced I have enough of it for Creighton to really work?)

    But I haven't temped since last week since I figure they'd be thrown out anyway between fevers and drugs and not sleeping great...

  3. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    @AprilFool: I get how you feel. I'm also scared of not being preggo again by my due date (jan). A friend is due a week after I would have been due, and she's a reminder of how close its getting. Hang in there and best of luck!

  4. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    @MaryM: I actually really like using opks. I watch cm, and I don't start opks until it's turning fertile. I do a few days of opks and then it's done. I feel like it's so much less to think about than temping. That being said, if I don't get preggo again soon, I may start temping. Anyway, just wanted to throw my perspective out there in case it's helpful.

  5. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @Zbug: I feel like OPKs led to an unhealthy obsession with peeing on things. And added a bit more stress. Of course the month we got pregnant was when we were stressed about moving and not tracking as much...

    In addition to being less obsessive than temps And OPKs, I'm hoping creighton will work for me because I'm looking into NaPro to figure out if there's a possible reason for our losses. But as I'm learning, I imagine I'll still use temps and OPKs to make sure I'm not missing anything

  6. LibbyLou

    kiwi / 739 posts

    @MaryM: I also felt like opk were a rabbit hole. Well of course I finally went down it and I love it. I still tracked when we were ntnp and that helped notch it down on obsessive scale. Like pp I have it down pretty well now and only pee on them twice, sometimes 3x. It gives me confirmation I'm ovulating as that was my problem.

    Having said that, it sounds like you have a good plan for ttc. It can all be a bit obsessive. I keep telling myself that a few months doesn't matter in the long run.

  7. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    I would obsess about all the things if I knew it would only be for a few months. Last time, it was more like 14...

  8. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    @MaryM: I understand. I feel like I'm getting more obsessive with each cycle, which is why I'm hesitant to temp. I get not wanting to start opks.

  9. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @Zbug: agree...it is so hard for me to take it lightly and just see how it goes! How do you in-know your fertile days etc? Sigh. I need some new hobbies!!

  10. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @Zbug: I forgot to reply to your other post. My SIL is due 10 days after I was (also Jan).

    I love her dearly, but I've had to turn her away from visiting me, and can't think of visiting my mom yet (she lives next door). It's the second time we've been pregnant together but wasn't nearly this hard last time.

    I feel really secluded because of most of our friends being pregnant or having babies. We knew 14 people who were pregnant with me the first time. One of them is due next month with her second. My best friends don't have children, but none of them are nearby.

  11. AprilFool

    nectarine / 2591 posts

    DH and I decided there would be no opks and no temping this time around. We want to keep it casual but I don't know how I am going to manage it!

    @Nutella: I have obvious CM which makes it easy to not temp/opk and it's all we did the month we conceived DD but I do like temping to get crosshairs in FF.

  12. Silva

    cantaloupe / 6017 posts

    So, in direct opposition to "letting go" of my need to imagine some sense of control over this whole thing, I temped this morning. I was still high, so Fertility friend bumped my ovulation date earlier by two days, and has me at 7dpo.
    So obviously I have now reviewed a bunch of "post miscarriage + delayed ovulation" charts. I'm still skeptical that I ovulated, but being 7dpo would be pretty nice at this point.
    I'm still debating calling my OB next week if I haven't gotten my period by cd 35.

  13. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @Silva: hopefully you get some answers before then! But it seems like a good sign that FF managed to find an O date right?

  14. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    I know I shouldn't test at 10dpo, but I did and now am super bummed that it was bfn. I got a faint line at 10dpo last time. I know every pregnancy is different and 10dpo is super early, but I just have to feeling that I'm out again this month. My cousin had a baby this morning, so that's not sadly not helping my mood.

    Just needed to vent. Ugh.

  15. LibbyLou

    kiwi / 739 posts

    @Zbug: fellow early tester here. I understand the need. 10dpo is early, even if last one was a positive then. Still keeping faith for you!

  16. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    @LibbyLou: thank you.

  17. noelani

    olive / 58 posts

    @Zbug: I'm sorry for the hard day But 10dpo is early! I think there's hope, but I understand the roller coaster of thoughts/emotions - the TWW is so tough. *hugs*

    We're less than a week away from TTC, and I know the TWW and urge to test is going to be really stressful...

  18. KrzyRiver

    apricot / 276 posts

    Hi ladies. Haven't been on baby boards much lately, so I just discovered this thread. Hope you don't mind me jumping in late.

    Date of loss: We had our 3rd ultrasound on October 11th and learned that the baby hadn't grown and the heart had stopped beating. I had a D&C the next day. We've had a MC and a CP prior to this.

    How long are you waiting to TTC again: Doc will probably tell me I have to wait at least 2 cycles. That's what she told me after my CP. I will know more at my follow up on Wednesday.

    Any kids: 15 year old son. (Step, but I hate saying stepson. He's mine too. Lol.) My husband got full custody on September 24th!

    How are you feeling? Physically: I'm fine, although I think I've been overdoing it at work. I work in assisted living, very physical, and I'm drained after working 3 long shifts in a row. Emotionally: Depends on the day. I work a lot and I'm in school, so I distract myself easily. But when I have downtime, I just want to cry at the thought of having to try again. And tonight hubby and I were goofing off and he pretended to punch me in the stomach. I yelled "Don't hit the baby!" and then broke down when I realized my mistake.

    I'm having trouble getting back in the groove of charting. I've temped three times over the last two weeks and can't ever remember to check CM. The two times I remembered this week, I didn't remember until after hubby and I had been intimate. Kinda pointless to check then. Lol

  19. KrzyRiver

    apricot / 276 posts

    @Zbug: The TWW is killer. I used to test like every day from 8DPO on. I just couldn't wait. Sorry you had a rough day. Everyone on my FB is pregnant and posting belly pics and baby clothes. I just had 3 people announce within the last week. It's awful going through this when you're constantly surrounded by babies.

  20. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    @noelani: thank you. I feel like I should throw all my tests away to avoid early testing. That may be a bit dramatic

  21. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    @KrzyRiver: so sorry about your loss. I know what you mean. I think I need to stay off facebook!

  22. illumina

    pomelo / 5469 posts

    Mind if I join this group? I had an early loss at 5-6 weeks last month. We had been trying for baby #2 for 6 months so it felt pretty sad I finally stopped bleeding a couple of weeks ago and think my cycle might be back to normal already and I just ovulated.

    Did anyone not go back to TTC right away? It's not that I'm worried my body needs a break its more that emotionally I don't think I could handle it if I have another miscarriage so soon. So we are kind of NTNP.

  23. Mrs. Champagne

    coconut / 8483 posts

    @illumina: we tried right away I guess.

    Here's our story:

    On July 20th (I should have been 9 week 2 days) our ultrasound showed a sac measuring 6 weeks. Went back one week later (10 weeks 2 days) and it measured the same.

    Took misoprostol for two days and everything passed just around when I should have been 11 weeks.

    I had a follow up ultrasound in early August and the tech said I was about to ovulate. The doctor said to wait one cycle. But we tried anyway (well. We had sex once the day of my US). I didn't get pregnant. Got my period back at the end of August. Tried in September. Didn't work. Tried in October. Currently pregnant.

    I think if I had got pregnant the first try (without waiting for a cycle) and had another MC j would have blamed myself. You know? My friend has an MC in the spring and her doctor said she didn't have to wait at all so she didn't. It took a few months for her to get pregnant through.

    Good luck!

  24. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @illumina: We haven't "tried" so to speak, but we have the same fear. I had a still birth at 22 weeks. The first time DH and I had sex was followed with some really odd mucous like I've never seen before, so we're both rather worried that my fertility could have returned and we didn't realize it.

    Hoping that I wasn't fertile, I'm learning starting NaPro treatment and learning a new charting method and they recommend abstaining for a month so that you know you're charting correctly. So we definitely will be waiting a while longer.

    My doctor hasn't given a firm recommendation of time to wait, but I think it's a delicate balance of not waiting too long because of IF and our ages, but waiting long enough that we can fully grieve losing our daughter. If I got pregnant in the next couple of months, I'm pretty sure DH would check me into a hospital and insist I stay there for the next 9 months....

    I also had one early loss in 2014.

  25. catlady

    grapefruit / 4988 posts

    @KrzyRiver: @illumina: I'm sorry about your losses. Hugs to both of you, and welcome.

    @KrzyRiver: I feel like everyone around me is pregnant too. It's really hard.

    @illumina: I just had my D&C two weeks ago so I am waiting until until AF returns before we try again, since that's what the midwife recommended. I had a previous miscarriage three years ago and we did the same then. Btw, after that one, I was pregnant three months later and that baby stuck. Good luck!

  26. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @illumina: a sad welcome & so sorry for your loss. I know what you mean about wanting to wait to ttc. We stated trying straight away once we were cleared, but a little part of me was still terrified. My DH was keen to start again so I sort of agreed. I did/do feel like getting pregnant again will make me feel better...is this normal I wonder?! Hugs to you, make sure you e got lots of support around you as the weeks go on...the sadness just keeps coming back at random times and it isn't fun

    @KrzyRiver: so sorry about your loss - I agree with you & @Zbug: SO MANY people around me are pregnant and it's killing me!i just heard that my doctor who I dealt with for my MC is also pregnant and due in April. She told one of my friends (who also sees her & is also due in April!!) but clearly didn't mention to me because she was trying to be sensitive...but still, I can't help but feel like the entire universe is knocked up! And I'm not!

    Sorry for the venting - I'm having a sad day & I think it just might be early PMS?! Yay!

    @catlady: hope you're going ok!

  27. KrzyRiver

    apricot / 276 posts

    @Zbug: I've been thinking about disabling my account for awhile. But I know that if I do, everyone will bombard my husband to ask him why. And that's not fair to make him answer all those questions. People are so nosey. Lol.

    @Mrs. Champagne: I've been so eager to try again that I've half convinced my husband to ignore my Dr. and just start trying right away. But I didn't think about the fact that I would definitely blame myself for not waiting if this happened again. I'm glad I read your post, I'm going to follow doc's orders and wait.

    @catlady: Sorry for your loss. I had my D&C 3 weeks ago. Always happy to hear about a successful pregnancy after a MC tho, thank you.

    @Nutella: Oh man, that must be rough. If my RE was pregnant, I'm pretty sure I would have to switch doctors. It's hard enough going into those offices and sitting with all those happy, excited pregnant couples. Venting is good for you though. Lol. I've been having a rough couple days over here. My poor hubby and mom get the brunt of my venting. They're supportive, but I think they're at a loss as to what to do anymore. So venting to people who understand is always helpful.

  28. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    @KrzyRiver: I can't even tell you how many people I've unfollowed on FB... Thank god for that feature!

    @Nutella: ugh. My office used to have just one sonographer. She was pregnant the first time I miscarried. It was tough to go back for followups on my cysts and watch her get more pregnant while we stared at my empty uterus. She is so sweet though, I was able to get through it, she nearly cried last week when I had my first follow up with her.

  29. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @MaryM: oh that's rough! She sounds nice and compassionate though. I also love the 'unfollow' on FB. SO many irritating people on my feed it seems! I actually don't log on much anymore because it just sets me off...

  30. delight

    pomelo / 5326 posts

    Alright I'm back. Ugh. I feel like I have spent half the last year pregnant with nothing to show for it. Long story short: loss at 22 weeks back in December and then a loss 2 weeks ago at 10 weeks. We will start TTC when I get my cycle back.

    I'm still having scans and bloodwork following the misoprostol. It's been two weeks and it's still not all gone. My goal was to avoid a D&C and I'm not so sure that was a wise choice.

    @Nutella: ugh I hear you that everyone is KU. My best friend is due three weeks after I would have been. My last pregnancy, my brother and SIL were due the same day as us. After we lost our Ava, I couldn't even talk to them. They ended up having a little girl which broke my heart and it took me 3 months to go visit my niece. I feel sad every day that people around me are having no problems having babies.

    @KrzyRiver: I hope your appointment goes well tomorrow. I'm so eager to TTC again too but am so petrified of losing another. My next appointment is Friday. I'm so sick of ultrasounds. I just want this to all be over.

    After our last loss, we were referred to the fertility clinic. We have an appointment for December 21st. I don't even know if we should bother trying before then. Maybe there is something wrong with us. We have one perfect little DD but maybe our other three losses are trying to tell us something.

    Man it feels good to get some of this off my chest. It's so hard to talk about this stuff IRL. Everyone always says "Oh you must be so thankful for your daughter". Well obviously! I can still be upset about my losses though.

  31. delight

    pomelo / 5326 posts

    @MaryM: I am definitely more ready to TTC now than I was after my 22w loss. I am still grieving her and it has been almost a year. I think about her multiple times every day. I'm sad about my recent loss at 10w too but I don't know if it was a boy or girl. I didn't feel that baby move. I don't have its footprints. We started trying 3 months after losing Ava and it took us 6 cycles to fall pregnant again. I wish you all the best when you start TTC again.

  32. AprilFool

    nectarine / 2591 posts

    @illumina: We took time off after our loss in May. I couldn't handle the thought of trying straight away so we booked a holiday for November and tabled it till then. We started trying this month but I was ready two cycles ago.

  33. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @delight: I'm sorry you are potentially looking at a d&c after all you have just been through I think it's good you're seeing a specialist in any case. At least you will get another view on things and you can ask questions. And I hear you on the people telling you how grateful you must be for your LO. It's like yes of course, but I am still allowed to grieve this other completely separate loss! Good luck for your next appointment

  34. noelani

    olive / 58 posts

    @illumina: I'm so sorry for your loss. We've followed my doctor's instructions to wait 6 months following our 23 week loss, but I've discussed that with others on this board and my doctor is a complete outlier with recommending such a long waiting period. I'm sure we could have tried sooner but to be honest I was emotionally wrecked for months and this upcoming cycle, at exactly 6 months, is the first time I've felt emotionally "ready." I've been reading the book "Pregnancy after a loss" by Carol Lanham and just finished the section on making the decision to TTC again - at one point she sort of recommended waiting 6+ months but then immediately disclaimed that and shared that she didn't wait nearly that long following her full-term loss. I think it all comes down to what/when feels right for *you*

    @delight: I'm so sorry to see you back here, and I'm so sorry for the misoprostol complications. It's just so unfair. I also think about our baby multiple times a day, and am stunned that so many people IRL are surprised that I'm still grieving. It's so hard to talk to people, about this or about anything, really.

    @Nutella: @KrzyRiver: I'm so sorry for your hard days, I've totally been there and it's so hard to push through. I also have times when I wonder if getting pregnant will make me feel better/less sad, I think that's totally normal. And I also feel like my poor DH bears the brunt of my venting. *hugs* I hope tomorrow is a better day.

  35. Nutella

    persimmon / 1045 posts

    @noelani: thanks lovely. 🌻 Definitely think today was one of those days, looking forward to a lighter outlook tomorrow also! 🌈

  36. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @delight: Ugh, I am SO sorry to see you back here.

  37. catlady

    grapefruit / 4988 posts

    So I had my follow-up appt today and got the green light to go ahead and TTC as soon as AF is back. However they wouldn't run any tests on me, even though I have had two m/cs already, since I had a successful pregnancy in between them and that apparently "resets" the statistics on how likely I will be to have another loss. I'm not sure if that made me feel better or worse honestly.

    @delight: I'm sorry to see you here. Don't feel bad about choosing the misoprostol. I got the D&C this time and now (2 weeks later) it's not all gone for me either. They were close to doing another D&C on me this morning. Whereas when I took the misoprostol, it went better. So I think it can happen no matter what you choose.

    @Nutella: Ugh, I hear you. My midwife is 8.5 months pregnant. She apologized about it though (heh).

  38. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    Well I got a faint bfp this morning. I'm super excited but more nervous than anything. I wanted this so badly, but now I just want time to speed up.

  39. Zbug

    persimmon / 1355 posts

    @delight: I'm so sorry.

  40. catlady

    grapefruit / 4988 posts

    @Zbug: Congrats!!!

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