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G is finally better today! A day and a half of fever was sooo scary. We gave him Baby Panadol every 6 hrs but that only helped for about the first 2 or 3 hrs... then we had to be doing the cold compress on forehead and sponge baths to keep it under 100F. By late yesterday he was a happy guy again but his temp wasn't quite back to normal. Ahhh, so glad that is over with, and now we can take him out like normal people! DH and I are part of a card tournament group that meets monthly and tomorrow is another meeting. First outing for Gio yeahhh!!

@skipra: congrats on your roller!! That must have been exciting to see. Gio despises tummy time and his paediatrician told me its not necessary. Is that true?? I read so much about the benefits of tummy time that it's hard for me to believe it's not necessary.

@Beebug: Gio was doing explosive spits a few weeks ago as well. I started feeding him with shorter but more frequent sessions and that helped.

Is anyone doing infant massage as part of the bedtime routine? Wait, is anyone doing a bedtime routine? I'd love to start some sort of routine with Gio but our evenings are so unpredictable. The ILs either drop by or want us to come up to see them a couple evenings a week and I don't see the point of starting a "routine" that we can't keep up with. If I do hear some success stories though, I'll see what we can do to maintain some sort of routine. I'm still getting sleep only in 3-4 hr stretches and I would just looovvee him to sleep a little longer at night!

@skipra: It doesn't, I use an umbrella (when pushing stroller, walking dog, etc.....busy but I make it work, lol) or make sure he is covered. Usually a hat and the flap flipped up does the trick.

@Glitter: no evening routine, I know C is no where near ready for the early bedtime I would love, but experience from C1 is that with time it will eventually ease earlier!! We don't bath every day, but I try to line up a bf session somewhere between 8 and 9, and get him down from there. I make sure I stay away from livingroom (tv on, brighter) and keep things calm and quiet that last hour and he usually goes down decently. But not last night, lol.....two explosive pukes, so we had to start all over again twice, then he fought going down....bah!!

@twodoghouse: do you have any idea how much envy I have for you with your outings without the kiddo's that you post on fb? Don't get me wrong, I love 'em, but omg....what I would pay to get away for a short while.

Took the kids with my Mom to local zoo (more like a farm with one zoo type animal, lol) it was sort of getto, but DD freaking loves it and had so much fun. Everyone napping now, I hope I can keep up with them napping at the same time over DDs one nap, it is huge for me catching my breath on the day.

@Mae: lol Gio falls asleep on his nursing pillow just like this during our MOTN feedings. Yall look so cute and comfy!

@Glitter: Good luck tonight! We have no real bed time routine yet. We keep G downstairs until we're ready for bed. Mostly he snoozes and cluster feeds. We go up, change and swaddle him, then I'll nurse to sleep if he's not already out when I'm done getting ready for bed.
@Beebug: poor little guy. What do you do with him when he's done eating? G spits up a ton whenever I put him in the car seat regardless of when he last ate. Also I'm sure it's heartbreaking to hear dd ask for daddy. Does she get to talk to him on the phone? DH and I had some extended periods apart and it seemed to help talking on the phone a few times a day.
@Mae: i love it when G falls asleep like that. Lately he only wants to fall asleep in the swing
@Mamasig: i can't imagine having to do bedtime alone. I had to do it once and it was awful and DH made it home to rescue me before anyone was asleep.

We are crib sleeping at night, napping in swing (w white noise on swing) daytime. I type this as he's napping in his crib, lol.

Visit with DH was good yesterday for the kids. Not sure about the he and I part yet, so not even going to go there.

The driving 1.5 hours each way with both kids was stressful, but we got it done, with minimal fuss, just in the last 15 mins each way.

C had a puke splosion on my step dad today while I was out with DD, no one had seen one as they were usually at night, felt bad he really got to experience it!

Both kids sleeping (yay!), outside grooming the dog and enjoying the sunshine. Might tackle some housework in a minute, and I officially have stink problems with my diapers so need to do a boil, add that to the to-do list!

@Glitter: I never thought about his head? I mean, it just sits to the side when he snoozes in the car!

Attached a pic! We took the top part of the infant insert out already, I find he sits in there better without it. I rolled wash cloths behind the outside of the infant insert top part when he had to to "hug" the sides of his head a little better so he didn't tip uncomfortably. Needs the bottom part still because I found he was too tall for the one shoulder strap option, but not quite at the other, gosh know he will grow quickly enough!

Uploading a bath video to our fb group as we speak, he was sooooo cute tonight, and looks like a chunker in the video even though he really isn't! It was awkward trying to grab pics and vids, but I don't want to miss getting some memories captured (when/done safe) while I am on my own. Both kids are down, I won't be far behind them tonight.

ok, let's see if I can catch up! (yikes...)

@HaleyJane: @Sweetkeight: I am super late in saying it, but congrats on the beautiful babies!!!

In terms of @Beebug's question on nursing to sleep (or in our case it would be bottle feeding to sleep) we've been lucky and haven't had to yet. Our routine is basicallly to feed William a bigger bottle downstairs on the couch a bit before bed time, then at bedtime (around 9h30 now) take him upstairs, put his pj's on, change diaper and give him a small bottle just to "top him up" hahaha. he's usually pretty drowsy by then, but I think swaddle him which kind of wakes him up. I had been giving him a pacifier adn lying him on our bed (somehow he just falls asleep lying there, no need to rock him or anything) and then I would transfer him to the bassinet once he was asleep. Well the last few nights I've been skipping the "lying on our bed" part and just putting him straight into the bassinet when very drowsy, and he's put himself to sleep! He usually falls asleep with the pacifier in his mouth, but it falls out shortly after and he doesn't wake up looking for it. Last night we had our first night in the pack and play rather than the bassinet. He didn't sleep quite as well as he normally does (normally sleeps 9h30/10h00 till 5h00 with no wakeups...but last night he woke up at 2h45 and then never really settled properly so he spent the rest of the night in our bed. Hoping tonight goes better. I think that part of the problem is that DH gives him that bottle while I pump, and then he kind of forgets to burp him so unless he's had a good burp, he doesn't settle very well. I'm anxious to switch him to his own room, but will probably wait a while longer till he's back to his good night sleep in the pack and play...which is more like a crib i guess!

Naps are all still happening in the car seat (because we are out and about so much) or his bouncy chair. No crib naps or anything yet. We didn't start those with DD till she was over 3 months, so will probably wait a while longer with him as well!

@Mamasig: I'm totally with you on being a mom of two is hard! Actually, the opposite of what I thought would happen is happening...I thought DD would be lacking in attention because I'd be so busy with the baby...but I find that DD gets so much of my time now that poor William is just hanging out in his bouncy seat half the day. And the days DD is at daycare, I have to run errands, get cleaning done, etc. I'm trying to "play" with him as much as possible, but I'm hoping that just watching DD run around, listening to us reading books, etc. is all he needs for now.

@anandam: Good for you on DTD! Haha, I'm so not brave enough (nor have I been cleared to try yet). Poor DH assumes it will be like a year before I'm ready.

@Skipra: wow, I can't believe he rolled already! W can roll onto his side (and he much prefers sleeping on his side to his back), but I think it will be a while yet before he rolls all the way.

@Beebug: Ugh, the explosive puking sounds awful. Poor you guys. Glad to hear that your kids had a good visit with DH though...even though you had such a long drive. We had a long drive last week...took the kids to a cottage with the in-laws for a few days and the drive was just over two hours. DD was NOT happy on the drive (DS just slept!) I ended up having to sing my entire repertoire of kids songs...and I do NOT have a good singing voice.

@Mae: That's great that she's been napping so well in her swing! It really is nice to be able to put them down and get some things done! Our bouncy chair is a lifesaver...We have a swing, but haven't taken it out because I think that DD would just try to climb in it (she LOVES swings).

@Glitter: aww, sorry to hear he wasn't doing well after his shots But glad to hear he's better. I totally know what you mean about the problems with their necks in the car seat. Every single time I take Will out of the car, this is what his head looks like. I have no idea how to fix it...since I know you aren't supposed to add anything to a car seat that didn't come with it. It's the same car seat we had for DD, but she never had this problem for some reason!

@Mae: it's awful to have supply issues, too much or too little, it's stressful!!! I wish I could tone it down, but aside from dehydrating myself? Lol not a good idea!

@cookie_dough: yep that's how Gio looks without my assistance in his carseat. So scary! Sometimes his head topples forward too and kinda lays on his chest, on a side.

We've been cobedding for the last few days - please judge me! I never wanted to cobed at all - always fearful that I may crush him, but for the last 3 days we kinda fell into it and he's been sleeping soooo much better than in the cosleeper. I also haven't rolled at all so it's making me feel better about it, in a weird way, because I keep thinking I shouldn't, but it works for us both. Ahhh so torn!

@Glitter: yes, every night unless my mom is with us. Then he'll sleep with her. I'm not sure when we'll make the transition. I hope it just sort of happens naturally. That's how a lot of changes have worked for us (like getting rid of the pacifier) so I hope this is the same way.

@twodoghouse: cool, wet rags on forehead and cool sponge baths helped us deal with the fever in between doses of pain meds. Gio HATED the cool sponge baths but they helped!

Good luck!

My son never reacted to getting shots. He cried when he got them for a minute but then it passed. He acted normal the rest if the day. Hope Leo is the same.

@Mae: awww, poor you guys! i totally did that when DD was a newborn. I had no idea what to do because it did bleed for quite a while! I felt awful at the time, but realized that it must happen to so many people!

@Glitter: I never ever EVER thought I would co-bed either...but we have been since day 1 as well. For the first week or so, DH actually slept on an air mattress on the floor and W slept in the bed with me hahaha. Now he sleeps a good chunk of the night in his bassinet or pack and play, but still ends up in our bed by early morning. I just make sure that the blankets are really low as well and that my pillow isn`t anywhere near him.

@twodoghouse: Good luck with shots!

So this may be a silly question, but can your babies move their heads from one side to another when they are lying down? W pretty much always has his head turned to be looking over his left shoulder, and he can't seem to move it to look straight up or over his right shoulder by himself. I sit on his right side and talk, to see if he will turn his head, but he can't seem to...and seems to get frustrated. If I position his head to the right, he seems more able to move it back over to the left side, but can't seem to do the same on the left side! Just wondering if I'm completely overanalyzing things. I just remember DD getting a flat spot on the back of her head because she was always looking straight (but could easily turn her head)...whereas this little guy will definitely not be getting a flat spot back there since he's never looking up!