grape / 86 posts
For those whose husbands had a SA, what was the process? Regular doctor? Other doctor? Clearly I'm clueless. My husband is totally on board for doing it, especially since we're under the impression it will be easier and less expensive than any tests that may be in the future for me (I don't know how or why we decided that, so if I'm wrong, feel free to tell me!)
I'm going to give it through the end of next cycle before we start exploring if there are any issues for either one of us but don't really know where to start if and when we get to that point (hopefully there's a BFP in my future before mid-October and I won't have to figure it all out!).
pomelo / 5628 posts
@mrsnana: You get a referral from your doc to go to a different doc (at least in my area). It was still pretty easy though.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@mrsnana: I went in for my annual exam and told her how long we were trying. She also knew of my DH's medical history. She recommended a few fertilty centers for the DH to get a SA.
Oh, so even though the baby factory is in a hiatus, I did want to tell you guys what my fertility doctor's plans were for me. I kept this news to myself because it was stupid to talk about since I was unsure about the future. But things are looking good for me and the DH.
She wants me to start an IUI when we are ready.
Although, we might be moving soon so I'll probably have to start the whole process again with another doctor. I hope my new doctor will let me jump into an IUI when we are ready.
cantaloupe / 6730 posts
@Beetones: Is he afraid of the results? Perhaps looking into what can be done if the results are bad will help? I always think that knowledge is power and the unknown is scary.
@mrsnana: DH's GP wrote a request, he went to the lab to pick up the cup, he took it home, did his thing and took it back to the lab. Easy peasy.
@bluestriped bee: It's not stupid! You can talk about anything you like. It must feel kind of nice to have a game plan to look forward to when you are ready again? Rather than the same old same old?
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@Grace: Aww, thanks. I know it's not stupid. I think I need to remember to be realistic and take each day one day at a time. But it's definitely feels great to have a game plan when we are ready.
grapefruit / 4703 posts
@bluestriped bee: hang on to those medical records - hopefully your new dr will be willing to pick up where the last one left off
coffee bean / 30 posts
Hey everyone- CD13 of our 14th cycle...
Had an HSG done last week (cobwebs only, lol) and was prescribed progesterone to administer, ahem, not orally. SO was given the referral for the SA, but I'm not trying to force him to schedule, this is hard on him too.
Trying really hard to not get my hopes up this go around, but things have just felt more positive lately, hopefully that translates onto a pee stick?
I think if it's another negative, I might go on a hiatus too. Just to focus on the man and me.
pear / 1786 posts
We are getting ready to start our 8th month TTC but it will be cycle 10 due to short cycles. I've recently had my first RE visit, an HSG, and some additional bloodwork. I will take a higher dose of Clomid than in the previous cycles I used it. I am hopeful! It's been tough at times even though I instinctively expected this to take a while. Best wishes that everyone graduates the club this cycle!!!
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
@mrsnana: my doctor referred my husband to a different doctor to have his SA. He went and provided a sample in the clinic. When we got the results back he was referred to a urologist and they wanted to do their own SA there.
honeydew / 7916 posts
@mrsnana: We knew my DH has a varicocele, so he went to a urologist (all we needed was a referral from a PCP). They ordered 2 SAs and bloodwork to be done at a lab, and he'll go back to the urologist for followup. With the lab we chose, he got to do the collection at home and then drop it off at the lab since we live nearby.
cantaloupe / 6206 posts
Oy. We'll have to get on the SA stuff next cycle, I think. I've heard varicocele is CRAZY common.
nectarine / 2705 posts
I don't think I even considered that my husband would have to do multiple SAs. I know he's okay with whatever steps he has to take to get answers - but it's good to hear from others that he may need to prepare to do it more than once.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
@spaniellove: My husband had varicocele surgery 7 months ago. He had them present on both sides. They were really bad. Did your husband have the surgery? Did it work for him? My husband's follow up SAs haven't shown enough improvement for us to be able to conceive on our own.
@jojogirl: My husband's urologist did tell us that varicoceles are common and that most men don't know they have them because they can't feel them. He also said that it is possible to conceive if the man has one. It just depends on how bad/how many there are.
grape / 86 posts
Thanks everyone - sounds like it will be easy enough. I'm just glad he's willing to do it (even though I'm fairly sure if anyone has a problem, it's me). He just started a new job and his insurance doesn't kick in until sometime in September, so we'll have to wait until then at least!
I have independent insurance (it's outrageously expensive to add me to his) which doesn't cover anything at all fertility-related (or pregnancy related except for emergencies) so in the meantime I'm focusing on all natural methods of getting healthier and saving as much as I can for any future treatments that may be needed (and the hopeful future l&d costs!)
honeydew / 7916 posts
@sweetooth: He mentioned yesterday that he's actually glad they're using more than one, because there are so many things that can go wrong and mess up the numbers! So it's like he gets a do-over.
honeydew / 7916 posts
@Leialou: At the first appointment, his urologist mentioned that surgery probably wasn't going to make enough of an improvement in fertility to be worthwhile so he wasn't going to recommend it. The 1st SA came back with decent count and pretty bad motility, although I'm wondering how much of that was due to abstaining too long, so I'm trying to get him to do the 2nd one properly. If the 2nd is similar I'd rather just do IUI.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
@spaniellove: It isn't TMI. He wasn't feeling any pain at all. He was actually very surprised by the diagnosis. I wish my husband's urologist hadn't pushed the surgery now. Luckily it only cost us $300 out of pocket, but it did take a while for my husband to fully recover. I just don't think it was worth it. The urologist said before the sperm were just flopping around and not moving and now they move very slowly. That's the only improvement that has been made. We're going to wind up doing IUI now, and before it would have been straight to IVF. So I guess that's better.
honeydew / 7916 posts
@Leialou: I'm so sorry to hear the surgery turned out to be ineffective! Being able to do IUI is better than only having the option of IVF I guess? And varicoceles cause more damage to him physically over time, so at least that's been reversed.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
Oh, I forgot to mention that I also started going to the gym during cycle 6. I think this helped relax me and made me feel better about myself, which probably helped.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@spaniellove: welcome to the club! Hope you don't stay long.
honeydew / 7916 posts
Well, I think we are going to move on to IUI/ICSI. We met with the urologist today and it turns out both SAs have consistently low motility and questionable morphology. I feel like I should be relieved to get some help in this TTC thing, but I'm not excited at all really.
grapefruit / 4703 posts
@spaniellove: I'm glad you're getting some answers and moving forward - think of it this way - this will probably help you get out of this club real quick Good luck and keep us posted!
cantaloupe / 6730 posts
@spaniellove: I'm sorry. Give yourself some time.
Maybe once you start some of the excitement will come back.
apricot / 359 posts
@spaniellove: I'm glad you were able to get some answers. DH had low motility and morphology, but after doing some research, we found out that as long as the count is good, the other factors (morphology and motility) are not that important.
"Despite all of the parameters that are reported on a semen analysis, the only parameters that have been proven to correlate with the chances of naturally achieving a pregnancy are:
- Concentration of sperm (total sperm count provides a similar estimate) - This is by far the most important parameter
- Sperm morphology
Problems with sperm morphology (how the sperm look) do have an impact on the chances of conception with intercourse, but the effect is relatively small. In fact, in men with high concentrations, the morphology does NOT appear to have any bearing on the chances of natural conception.
Note that neither semen volume or motility have any impact on the chances of conception once concentration and morphology are taken into account. "
We conceived naturally after close to trying for a year. Hope this information helps!
nectarine / 2705 posts
@spaniellove: I know what you mean...we're moving towards our first RE appointment at the end of the month and while I'm trying to stay positive that this will put us on the path to pregnancy, I wish it could be so much simpler. You're not alone.
we're here for support during the next steps!
honeydew / 7916 posts
@Rachel: @Grace: @Mrs. Lantern: @sweetooth: Thanks ladies. It's helping to talk it out with DH...before it was just speculation and now it's very real. Seeing how sad he is takes away the anger that I had before, and now I can focus on how we move forward. Like how the heck we're going to afford IVF when our insurance doesn't cover anything!
cantaloupe / 6730 posts
@spaniellove: Oh yea!! I'm really happy to hear that the two of you are starting to work things out. As far as the IVF costs, I originally always thought the same as you. How do people afford that? I talked to DH about it and he pointed out that it's cheaper than a new car and far cheaper than a house and we still buy those things. Doesn't really help the how, but it kinda gives it a different perspective.
cantaloupe / 6730 posts
So I had my doctor's appointment today. She asked if I had any concerns, so I told her that we had been trying to get pregnant and it wasn't working. Her response was "what isn't working?" Ummm, the getting pregnant part. Then she gave my charts a cursory glance, and asked when we were having sex. I don't know exactly what I was expecting, but I went away from there much less satisfied than I'd hoped. But, she ordered a ton of blood tests, which is what I was hoping for. I asked her what we would do if they came back normal and she said that she would refer us to the fertility clinic. Then I asked what we'd do if they were abnormal and she said that she would refer us to the fertility clinic. Sounds like we're going to the fertility clinic!
grapefruit / 4663 posts
Hi ladies! I need some support, we've been NTNP since January and TTC since April. One of my good friends just found out she's pregnant after a long time TTC and by using clomid, and while I'm soo excited for her this is the first announcement that has just hurt, if that makes any sense.
I cried to my husband last night when I found out via text and he's just like its not a race, which no its not but I want to be pregnant now! I never thought this would be this difficult.
nectarine / 2705 posts
@jetsa: it makes total sense. No, it's not a race, but it's hard when you're trying and your good friends are able to achieve pregnancy and you're not there yet. (HUGS) to you! You're not alone in your feelings.
honeydew / 7916 posts
@jetsa: It's totally natural to feel like you wish it could be you too, as much as you want to be happy for your friend. And husbands often don't know how to make you feel better so they tend to say the most pragmatic thing! So "it's not a race" - which is true, although it doesn't help here! Sending hugs your way and welcome to the thread!
grapefruit / 4703 posts
@jetsa: I totally get it - I've been trying since April too, and it seems like everyone in my life just decides to have a baby and then they're pregnant. HB is a great community for support - it makes me realize I'm not the only one in the world struggling to get pregnant. ((hugs!))
cantaloupe / 6730 posts
@jetsa: Isn't it weird how it's not a race and yet totally feels like one? Or maybe it's a fear of being left behind? I don't know what it is, but I've certainly been there. Hugs!
wonderful olive / 19353 posts
@jetsa: @Rachel: I can relate as well. We're starting our 7th cycle of TTC and every female on FB seems to be announcing their pregnancy or birth. Sigh. I'm going to see my OB in a couple weeks to get some testing done to (hopefully) get some answers...
nectarine / 2705 posts
You know what else is hard to hear? When people who have kids tell you to "cherish this time! when you have kids you will miss these days where you could sleep in, take spontaneous trips, etc."
I know that people who don't experience infertility don't know what to say to someone who is in the thick of it - but I wish they knew, I DO cherish this time right now, but I would LOVE to be in their shoes. And when I am, I will cherish it SO much because it was such a long road to get there.
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