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Yikes! I certainly won't be forcing my future children into university but that will be part of a larger conversation about their own personal goals in life. They'll have the examples of a tertiary-educated mother (1 degree, 2 post-grad diplomas) and a father who left school at sixteen and worked his way up in his trade so hopefully they get well rounded views. Our faith and their gender will not be considerations in that decision.

@Mrs. Jacks: I know. It makes Catholics look like morons. I keep wanting to believe the church will go in a different direction too. These people are crazy.

Everything about the article makes me mad. Beyond the fact that they don't understand that they are oppressing women (disgusting), with unemployment being so high right now, how does it seem logical to have the male be the sole provider and the only one in the relationship with an education? Also, if Catholics don't believe in birth control, then is the man suppose to have 3-4 jobs to support his family of 12?!? Haha. I guess being a teacher is out of the question because of low salaries so we would have to shut down schools too. Seems reasonable (completely sarcastic).

This is why I love the HB community so much. @Fronkinzankinsbride:

Aw man, that crazy Satan... He's always convincing me that my career has worth.

Since this popped back up on my feed again, I just had to add that the reason about putting daughters "near sin" is ludicrous! Yes, college is full of opportunities to "sin", but *what about the sons*?!? It's okay for them to be near sin? But, also, it's not okay for parents to be near sin. My mind boggles. How do people who lack so much common sense make it through the world?

@JoyfulKiwi: um. I think being anywhere in the world is "near sin". Which is exactly why the bible teaches to be in the world but not "of" it!

@MamaMoose: lol!!!!

Da fuq ?

How does nonsense like this ever see the light of day? Luckily, since I do have a university education, I can see it for the garbage it is. I do hate that he pretends these are Catholic viewpoints, though - just adds to misconceptions about the Catholic Church.

This is sickening.

What is with "she will be on the near occasion of sin" and "the parents will also be in a near occasion of sin because of use of contraception". OK. great. So boys who goes to college are not in the near occasion of sin? This is why I stopped going to Church because I do not want to be associated with people who speaks like that. Seriously.

If our society becomes one like this (girls should not go to college), then women might as well cover ourselves in black from head to toe or we might get raped by random men on the street, and fear getting our nose cut off by our husbands. That is just the beginning.

And to point (1), how about lazy girls who looks for successful husbands to marry? And that is somehow acceptable and OK?

I want to vomit.

I do want to say I agree to one point though: (3) She will not learn to be a wife and mother. While I do not agree to how the author puts it I can see the point. I was just talking to a friend of mine, how conflicted and depressed we became, when sometimes we have to give up our career when our family status change (ie. when our babies come, it is no longer realistic to work 60 hours a week). When we were teenagers and studying hard, we never imagined, or aspired to becoming a homemaker one day. I wouldn't say it is the problem with the college, but somehow something should be done to make our girls understand that we shall be content with ourselves no matter what paths we'll take in our lives. This may be something that the parents are responsible in teaching the young girls. I don't know.

@irene: <<I hate people with a conservative religious background having a point of view>>

seriously?!? because I am a Christian conservative I am not entitled to my own opinions and POV? Wow. I'm sorry I didn't realize that America isn't actually a place of freedom of religion - only freedom to have a liberal agenda.

Your post is hateful towards Christians. Just because I'm a Christian does not mean I adopt ONE man's POV. These aren't even the teachings of any church I have attended. Even if it was, everyone is entitled to their own opinion (even if wrong) and should not be called a "retard" for it. Having a religious set of beliefs does not make me a "retard", in fact I think it makes me a better person.

@irene: I think you're being rather unfair to people with mental retardation. They have an actual disability and are, on the whole, lovely people. Not fair to compare them to the asshole who wrote the article!

@irene: Not all Christians subscribe to this one man's theory. The original article is a product of fundamentalist Christianity, a stance that millions of Christians do not take. As a Christian, I do not subscribe to his beliefs. No church I have ever attended has even touted these beliefs.

Please don't base your judgement of an entire religion and it's followers on one small fundamentalist segment. After all, I'm sure you would not like us to judge you based on the comments you've made here.

On the whole, this article is too ridiculous for me to take seriously.

If we haven't learned at this point that the outliers (and the just plain weirdos) always speak with the loudest voice and rarely--if ever-- speak for the majority, well, then, we need to hit the (history) books and brush up on that lesson lickety split.

@Mae: lol!

As an aside, I have been dying to use the word *lickety* for a while now!

@irene: I don't think it's a bad thing to express how you feel, but the use of the word retard to imply what you did is just, off.

This douchey ass with his entitled shitty blog post makes me a little sad about widespread internet access. How I long for the days when his filth would have been confined to his crappy living room with his flock of sheep listening avidly. Wanker.

@plantains: +1 to Wanker!!!

@Mrs. Pen: I totally get where you are coming from, but your beliefs are based off someone else's interpretation of what God's plan/teachings is/are/should be . . . Following any religion requires you to follow someone who has claimed to follow God, i.e., the "Gospel according to So and So" which is inherently prone to personal interpretation and bias (although I don't necessarily mean bias in a negative sense).

@MsLipGloss: True most people in any religion follow a "religious leader" to interpret and pass on teachings they have studied. However every pastor of every church I have ever attended encourages all members to compare their words with those in the bible - to be sure that what is being taught matches up with the bible - which is the "blueprint" for Christianity. I would not attend a church where the pastor stated his word as law and didn't encourage individual participation in the faith.
Many Christians I know are completely independent of others and DO practice their religion indepedent of anyone else (having church at home, etc). So although I see where you are coming from, and I understand why so many Christians tend to follow religious leaders, I do not believe that has to or should be the norm.

I see a lot of people burned by Christians, I do. And it completely breaks my heart because that isn't how it should be. But if everyone based their christian faith off of how every other Christian lived their life- this religion would be dead. Christian or not we all make mistakes and we all hurt other people.

@pui: You're right, it *should* come straight from the Bible (a lot of things should be a certain way, but they aren't). . . but which Bible, which language, which has the most accurate translation (translations performed by men) ?. . . and *inspired* means just that inspired and, therefore, subject to the limitations, perceptions, opinions, biases, etc., of the inspire-ee . . . most religions claim to the *inspired* by The God . . . and yet most believe that every other religion that makes the same claim (of being *inspired*) is not the true religion. Circular reasoning . . .

ETA: Your logic, by operation, *should* result in all religions (*inspired* by the same God) sharing the same beliefs . . . but that is not the case.

@pui: At least a little off topic

"In the end, either one religion is true, or none are. They can't all be true." I agree with this (and I am pretty sure you know which side of the fence I am on with that one).

BUT, thank you for sharing. You too @Mrs. Pen.