DD has. 103.2 fever. She has had a yucky cough the last few days that appears to be worse now. I gave her acetaminophen at 7 but of course it's 1:30 and I'm out of Motrin. She got her flu shot this morning.
Call dr in am? Ride it out? Wwyd?
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I would give her another dose of Tylenol (I think it is every 4 hours?) and call the Dr. in the morning if her temp is still high.
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@matador84: last time my 3 year old had a fever that was 104 the nurse on call said alternate Tylenol and give her a tepid bath. The telos bath helped ins to cool her body temp. Make sure to dry her quickly and dressed after.
PS Motrin is ibuprofen and Tylenol is acetaminophen -
I'd only call if Tylenol/Motrin didn't bring the fever down. Sounds like she's already been fighting a bug, not necessarily a vaccine rxn.
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Likely not a reaction on its own. If she was already fighting a bug, the shot can exacerbate it, but it's not causing those symptoms on its own. I'd keep loading up on the tylenol/ibuprofin and wait it out.
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Of course it's a reaction! Did you read the flu vaccine insert ? Which flu vaccine did she receive?
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Per the CDC, reactions to the shot include soreness where the shot was given, a LOW grade fever (up to 101), or aches.
103* plus a cough? My money's on that she was sick and the flu shot was coincidental timing.
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I didn't think they gave the flu shot when your child was already sick?
I wouldn't blame the shot - sounds like a coincidence to me
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@Mamaof2: I think it depends on how "sick" they are. Both of my girls got the shot yesterday and they both have a cough and snotty nose. It's virtually unavoidable for them this time of the year.
I got mine a week ago as well with a pretty decent fall allergy "cold" going on.
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DS had a fever overnight as a reaction to the shot (only the first dose though). But if she had a cough before it might be a bug she had before the shot... I think the shot can lower immunity for a few days while the immune system is busy "processing" it. Hope she's feeling better! If the fever does stick around, it might be good to go to the doctor again and make sure the bug isn't turning into an ear infection or something.
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@matador84: Sounds like she was fighting something prior to getting the shot. I'd call doctor if you can't get fever down.
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@BandDmommy: @Mama Bird: @Mamaof2: @blackbird: @jh524: @littlebug: @catomd00: @regberadaisy: @autumnlove: nasty ear infection!!! Steroid shot and antibiotics for her.
Thanks for the input! Hoping we can get some sleep today.
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Sounds to me like she already had a bug before she got the flu shot. I think it's just a bug running it's course.
ETA: oops! We were posting at the same time. Glad you've figured out what is up and can get the right meds now.
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@blackbird: I'm sorry but that's incorrect. That statement will simply be on the paper they hand you about the shot. All parents must ask and READ the vaccine inserts! You have to request them.
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@jh524: The CDC does state that a low-grade fever is a possible side effect, and that it is rare. So do you mean the CDC is incorrect? http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/flushot.htm
@matador84: I agree with others that it's most likely your DD was already getting sick when she got the shot. I hope she feels better quickly!
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@matador84: poor thing, I hope she feels better!
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@jh524: just curious, what does your vaccine insert say relating to the flu shot? Is it different than what the CDC says?
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moot point since the kid has an ear infection.
Hope she feels better soon!
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@matador84: poor girl! Hope she is feeling better soon!
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@jh524: what makes you say that it is "of course" a vaccine reaction? Because it happened after getting the vaccine? If I ate a ham sandwich then walked outside and got hit by a bus did the ham sandwich cause me to get hit by a bus?
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@jh524: "of course it's a reaction". Obviously not since the kid has an ear infection. So glad I take my medical advice from actual doctors and not anti vaccine rhetoric that insists anything negative that occurs following a vaccine is obviously caused by the vaccine.
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@kjn: lol, yeah! Next time get turkey!
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@MrsSCB: a fever of 103.2 is not a low grade fever.
@BandDmommy: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM305089.pdf
(Important parts to read: all 26 pages!! Not just one single hand out they give us.•Clinical Studies ( too bad they are using data from 15 years ago.) interesting....
•Contraindication & Adverse Reaction pg 4-6 of 26
•Post-marketing experience Pg 10 & specific populations (pregnant & nursing mothers) Pg 11
READ the....
•**Description PG 12- 13 **
The Fluzone shot contains Formaldehyde....The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services openly admits that formaldehyde causes cancer.
It also contains Mercury (unless you request the single dose syringe!! Which is what you should do along with the vaccine insert!!What about the Gelatin, which causes allergic reactions or the embryonic chicken eggs it's made in.
So with all these chemicals in the flu shot, heck yes you should think your sudden headache, spiked fever or feeling sick is a reaction! Why wouldn't you? Youre putting viruses and chemicals into your body that haven't been properly studied. Do some research. Look into it to be informed so you can make a choice that's right for you and your family.
I may sound anti vaccine, but I'm not. I'm a researcher and I believe Knowledge is power. I don't believe doctors know every single thing but I do think most will push vaccines because it's often about money.
Ok I am done here.@kjn: common sense isn't so common is it. Your example is comical though.
@Truth Bombs: yes I do absolutely do think everyone should use their brain and consider any reaction after getting a vaccine could possibly be related ! If you don't, well then I'm sure you'll call your doctor so they can assure you it's not a adverse reaction and you can quickly agree and feel better about yourself. Its ridiculous people don't think for themselves.
Oh and you'd think it would be valuable to test to see if the flu shot they push every year could possibly be carcinogenic or have mutagenic potential or for possible impairment of fertility, but It has never been tested.
@matador84: your daughters symptoms could possibly have a relation to the flu shot. The vaccine lowers your immune system so this is why giving a vaccine while sick isn't recommended. I hope she gets better quick!!
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@jh524: Yes, I agree 103.2 is not low-grade, therefore it seemed unlikely to be a reaction to the vaccine, because the CDC says "low-grade fevers" are an (albeit uncommon) adverse reaction. A higher fever, like 103.2, suggests a different cause, which it ultimately was given that it's an ear infection.
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@MrsSCB: maybe. Or the vaccine exasperated the infection or illness which caused a spike in her fever. There's no true data on that because they won't use a trial testing sick individuals and they're reaction to the flu vaccine.
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@jh524: not sure why you are responding so adversarial to me. I was just asking what you found that was different than what CDC said. I do use my brain and understand the risks of vaccinating and also the risk of NOT vaccinating. Thanks though.
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@BandDmommy: I'm sorry!! That wasn't directed toward you at all!
I responded to you at the top of the page. I always have a certain gal attack me for thinking differently than her in regards to vaccines. I certainly didn't mean to bother you with the statement that followed!! Sorry -
@jh524: If you want to talk about people being informed, I would recommend doing some research and being informed yourself.
Yes - some vaccines contain formaldehyde. So does your carpet, your couch, the air you breathe, and the food and drinks you consume. Formaldehyde is also naturally produced by the body and is a very important part of our metabolism.
Even at the appointment where your child would receive the most formaldehyde-containing vaccines at once (6 months), if you combined the formaldehyde included in all of those vaccines it would be way, way less then the amount of formaldehyde your body naturally produces itself every single day.
Knowledge is power. Just because something has a scary sounding name doesn't mean that is actually bad.
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@Mrs.KMM: of course! I'm always Researching and trying to inform myself as should everyone. But don't you think being exposed to it in our daily living is different than injecting it into your bloodstream?
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@jh524: So just taking issues with two points you've made -
1. Vaccines lower your immune system: first of all, I'm no sure what "lowering" an immune system means, but if you mean that vaccination causes immune deficiency in the short or long term that is patently untrue - vaccines stimulate the immune system to clone antibody-producing white blood cells (B lymphocytes) specific to the disease or diseases being vaccinated against. The production of these new cells increases immunity against those diseases, but doesn't impair immunity against any other diseases. This component of the immune system is disease specific (unlike say, inflammation which occurs in response to any foreign microorganism entering the body), therefore increasing immunity against one disease doesn't decrease immunity against against any other.And as a follow up to that
2. The vaccine exacerbated an existing illness (in this case an ear infection): Also impossible. Doctors tend not to vaccinate when a child already has an existing illness (although some will), but it is because a reaction to the vaccine can be masked by the existing illness, NOT because the vaccine can somehow make the existing illness worse. Again, the immune system at this level is disease specific, so one cannot affect the other.You are imploring us to do our research, read the inserts, don't trust the CDC summary, inform ourselves - but some basic understanding of how human immunity works goes a long way towards dispelling myths about vaccines and their side effects.
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@jh524: Nope – formaldehyde is formaldehyde. It all has the same chemical structure. And like I said, your body is naturally making formaldehyde every single day. If those minute amounts of formaldehyde in vaccines were going to cause an issue in your body, you would be having major issues every single day of your life.
@ScarletBegonia: Thank you!
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@Mrs.KMM: Interesting! Thanks
@ScarletBegonia: I'll respond, 1. no that's not what I mean. I just mean it may tax it a bit more because your body is fighting off the viruses from the vaccine. And I do understand how immunity works. 2. I don't agree with you on this. I do think a illness can very well be exasperated by a vaccine. Not impossible in my opinion. Thank you! -
@jh524: Vaccines are not injected into the blood stream. And the word you mean to say is exacerbated not exasperated.
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@junebugsmama: are we really gonna start going there. I guess you didnt understand want I meant. But Thanks for clarifying my typo. Much appreciated And vaccines do enter your blood. That's how your body begins to make white blood cells because it's seen as a intruder and you make antibodies to it.
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They are absorbed eventually into the blood but they aren't injected into bloodstream! Just being factual. I understand what you are saying though. @jh524:
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@jh524: in this thread http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/unhelpful-nurse-about-vaccine-reaction#post-2274166 you were certain a child was suffering a seizure from a vaccine. Turns out she had a pinky toe injury. You now were certain that a child had a 103 degree fever from a vaccine. Turns out she had an ear infection. Don't you think that assuming a vaccine is ALWAYS the cause of adverse symptoms that occur close to the time the vaccine was administered is just as irresponsible as never assuming it was?
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@jh524: Okay, but if our immune system was taxed by fighting off infections then every time we were sick we would be more susceptible to different infections, which doesn't happen.
If you don't agree with me about a vaccine not being able to exacerbate an existing illness then that's fine, but the science behind my statement is clear, unambiguous and can be found in any first year university biology textbook, as well as backed up by any number of peer reviewed studies. I'm sure we all have friends and family that have gotten sicker after having a vaccine, and it is horrible and sad when that happens, but correlation doesn't equal causation and people need to bear that in mind when deciding whether to vaccinate their children or not.
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@Truth Bombs: so what?! Shoot me for being concerned for other people's children. Where did I write I am certain it's a reaction. I said it's possible there is a relation. But it doesn't matter anyways, I see your point and I'm not interested in going back and forth with you. Thanks though
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@Mrs.KMM: thank you for this. i needed to read that!
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@ScarletBegonia: sure I agree with that. But dont you think that if a person is already Ill and then not naturally exposed to multiple viruses but exposed via vaccine injection that the immune response could possibly tax the already busy immune system? Therefore causing an increase in the severity of the illness or an increase in your body's reaction to fight off that invader?
I understand the basics of biology, as well as the importance of credible sources and data. I learned to research while getting my Masters Degree and I always have more to learn. I don't see why more people don't question vaccine safety. What they choose to do with the info is up to them.
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