grapefruit / 4800 posts
@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: I usually save the drinking till tipsy for kid bedtime hours I guess I'm getting old I haven't been daytime tipsy for awhile.
grapefruit / 4823 posts
@Ra: word!
I never assume the kids are coming/welcome, but I also like to do things sans kids. I can't visit, catch up, enjoy myself fully with one, or both of the kids. They aren't bad at restaurants, but require more attention than if it's just me stuffing my face. I definitely put it out there if I/we need to bring the kids to see if it's cool, otherwise, I just assume they are staying home.
pomegranate / 3314 posts
@Ra: yeah, man - I don't consider me and LO to be a "packaged deal" at all!
coconut / 8430 posts
I think for a dinner that was with an ex-boss, I would assume that it would be a child-free evening. In our case, we don't have any babysitters that we use, so it would have just been 1 adult and the other parent would stay home with LO.
However, if friends invited us (as a couple) out at 6:30 to a casual place just to get together (not for a specific celebration or event), I am 100% assuming that LO is invited and she is coming with us. I'd probably sneak it in there, if I wasn't sure that it was clear. "Oh, do you think that place has high chairs?"
pear / 1563 posts
Interesting thread! I'm a mom and I mostly agree w @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: and PP who would have assumed no kids. I don't think anyone is right or wtong, but my default for dinners out is no kids. That may be in part because we have family to watch her though and a toddler who is into everything! It's tough when you have to factor in paying a sitter.
persimmon / 1479 posts
I would have assumed no kids. I've been out to dinner with a friend who brought her daughter, i think she was 4 at the time. I didn't know in advance and was kind of annoyed...sorry! I was excited to have some girl time but it didn't happen it just wasn't what i was expecting!
grapefruit / 4187 posts
I have a 16 month old and i would never bring him out to dinner, even if friends requested it. It is way too much work, absolutely exhausting and i don't have any fun if he comes. When he gets to be 3 or 4 i might consider bringing him, but would totally clarify that first regardless but esp with a childless couple. Even though i have a child i would assume you had hired a sitter!
pomegranate / 3105 posts
I actually am surprised when my parent friends don't bring their kids.
grapefruit / 4400 posts
@Ra: I'm with you. I'm not part of any package deal (kids, or husband), so if I get an invite, I'm assuming it's just for me, unless we specify it's w/ SOs and/or kids.
Would anyone assume that if your single/sans-SO friend invited you to dinner, that you would be bringing your SO, just because you had one? Or even if my best friend said to me, "Let's grab dinner/Let's grab a drink" I'd still ask if she meant with our husbands or without.
pomegranate / 3577 posts
We take E everywhere, because he is a fairly mellow kid, but if I was going out to meet friends, I'd ask.
We took E to an office-mate's Christmas party, and I still felt a little ridiculous even though they told me it was okay and he was welcomed.
grapefruit / 4441 posts
@HabesBabe: I totally agree. Even when my friends with kids suggest going out for dinner, I ask if they were thinking we'd go with or without the kids.
pomegranate / 3791 posts
@HabesBabe: I have a cousin who does! I can even say girl's night and she shows up with her FI, and her child too now that she has one. It's incredibly annoying.
cantaloupe / 6206 posts
This is fascinating. I ALWAYS assume invitations are kid-free, even if both me and the other person are parents. If kids are invited, it's always specified.
eggplant / 11408 posts
Interesting! Our MO has come to be that if both of us are going, LO is coming with us. If someone wants to go out kid-free, then only one of us can go.
In general, in our circles, it seems that bringing the kids is the norm. If someone doesn't want kids involved, they say so.
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