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wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
I keep thinking about this. I can't say I am strongly for or against the death penalty in theory. However, I don't like the way it currently is. Of the 80 people convicted of the death penalty since 1988, 3 have been executed. The rest either die in prison, have it appealed and overturned, or are still appealing. The appeals process will take years and years and it will be news every time. So while I think this guy is the worst person and if anyone deserves it, it's him, I think it would be better if he got life in prison and was left there to rot while the rest of us could work on moving on.
nectarine / 2521 posts
I am not opposed to the death penalty. The cases it is reserved for are horrific acts of crime where true malice and intent of the heart are proven.
On the other hand, I hate the death penalty because of the appeals process and how victim's families are dragged through the system for years. However, in the case of the Boston bombing, I believe it is worth it. I was so angry reading just the victim's statements that I cannot imagine hearing it in person and seeing the videos and images too.
blogger / pineapple / 12381 posts
Why on earth would we make more martyrs for the cause? Put him away and let him fade into nothingness.
GOLD / papaya / 10166 posts
Maybe I'm desensitized to it because I went to college yards away from where they carried out the death penalty for prisoners, but I'm all for giving him the death penalty. I feel like we give criminals a free ride by letting them stay in prison for life. Does it really teach them a lesson?? I don't think so. I think if they have something to fear once their in prison (like death), they might think twice about committing crimes that send them there (instead of viewing it as a free ride/food/shelter/etc).
eggplant / 11408 posts
@travellingbee: I agree with this. Giving him the death penalty makes him a martyr, which may be what he wanted in the first place. I think killing him is really bad PR, and maybe bad national security wise, too.
apricot / 451 posts
I'm not opposed to the death penalty, but I think it would be more fitting to carry out the sentence in a way that they suffer the same way their victims did. Like this guy should have to have a bomb detonated next to him so he loses some limbs......and then spend the rest of his life in prison.
I know that sounds harsh, but like @blackbird said, "meh, fuck this guy."
nectarine / 2765 posts
@Lilbear: have to agree, my only disappointment is that he'll die without great physical suffering.
I'm not opposed to the death penalty but prefer it be reserved for the most heinous crimes. This is one.
wonderful pea / 17279 posts
I don't disagree with the sentence, but I'm not sure I could have voted that way as a juror even for him.
cantaloupe / 6923 posts
I like to think that it will send a message to terrorists. This guy is a scum bag.
clementine / 756 posts
I'm against capital punishment for both moral, financial and practical reasons. It is a huge investment in time, labor and money to put someone to death and usually takes decades.
cantaloupe / 6692 posts
I don't think anyone should have the authority to take a human life. An eye for an eye and the whole world goes blind.
That being said, I'm not crying about him getting the death penalty either. The world is better off without him.
coconut / 8279 posts
@artsyfartsy: I love that quote.
I actually did cry listening to the sentencing and I'm someone who's currently/continually in therapy as a result of his actions.
cantaloupe / 6669 posts
@anonysquire: As @Mrs. Jacks said it just makes him a martyr. Terrorists are not afraid to die for the cause.
I am against capital punishment. I also feel that life in prison with no chance for appeal would have been more closure for the families - and a worse punishment for him.
pomegranate / 3706 posts
I am against the death penalty. It makes no sense to me to kill someone, for killing someone. With terrorists, eye for an eye thinking vindicates their feelings, and like a hydra, more will pop up because of this.
grapefruit / 4066 posts
I'm fine with it, some people on this earth that commit horrific and brutal crimes just don't deserve to live. Life in prison is no fun at all, but I think it's worse sitting on death row knowing someday in the near-ish future you are going to die.
@jedeve: all life is sacred, really?? Someone who kills children and innocent lives? Their life is sacred? Sorry...just no. I highly doubt you would be singing that tune if someone killed your child.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
Just out of curiosity, and I mean this in all seriousness, which is more costly, life in prison or death by lethal injection?
I often wonder about the victim's family and the effect of their sentencing on them. Is it them we want to punish?
apricot / 315 posts
@looch: Death penalty, in many cases, has been found to be more expensive due to the costs associated with the appeals process.
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
@looch: I primarily thought of the victims families too. At least one of them was against the death penalty for the sake of having closure, since the appeals process with be so long.
pomegranate / 3643 posts
@looch: the death penalty is more expensive. Also many victim's families oppose the death penalty because they don't want to be dragged through appeal after appeal.
@NovBaby1112: yes, it's one of the central tenets of my religion. It's not always an easy belief, because of situations like this. Yes, I believe some people are scum, but I don't believe it's for me to decide who lives and who dies.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21616 posts
@looch: I was actually really curious about this too. I don't have a formed opinion on death penalty; while I have a hard time believing it's in humans hands to choose when life ends - I also don't like the idea of free food/shelter on our dollar for the rest of his life.
bananas / 9628 posts
@NovBaby1112: I don't see anything wrong with @jedeve: 's belief that life is sacred. Not my kid, but my brother was running, he was stopped just before crossing the finish line where his wife was waiting for him. They're both okay, but easily could have met a different outcome. This hits close to home for me, and I don't have religious doctrine that tells me I need to forgive him, but I, too, believe that human life is sacred, even when it's commited acts of evil. Shut him up, keep him from spreading his evil, protect humanity from his evil acts, but don't let him become the martyr he seeks to be, show him compassion he doesn't deserve, show him we are not the evil he thinks we are, let him be wrong, let us be better than that.
I was beyond shocked that here in MA they found a group that would go for the death penalty.
pomegranate / 3643 posts
@mrs. bird: "let us be better than that." This exactly.
And I'm glad your brother is okay.
coconut / 8279 posts
@mrs. bird: call me naive, but I thought with a life sentence for such a young person, he would have years and years to speak about the questions surrounding it - who pulled the trigger on Sean Collier, what did his brother do/see while in Russia in 2011, details on the Waltham murders and Todashev - when you have all those years to yourself.
now I'm afraid with a death sentence he'll spend whatever years he has fighting his appeal, ugh.
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
@rachiecakes: I don't really see him showing any remorse or providing the answers that people want, to be honest. But I do hate that the appeals process will drag on and on and on, when we should be able to turn away and move on.
grapefruit / 4671 posts
@mrs. bird: this is said to such perfection. Let us be better than that.
honeydew / 7504 posts
I wish I could find the story, but there was a story floating around while waiting for the jury's decision from a guy who worked in the supermax prison where Tsarnaev would have been sentenced to life. Prisoners spend 23 hours in solitary. A single 4x4-foot skylight is their only light. They get 1 hour of time in the yard, which is walled in, so they still only ever see the sky. The guard said it's a harrowing, miserable life, and most of the prisoners end up going insane - banging their heads against the walls, scraping their fingers raw. If they're educated, they can lose themselves in books, but most of them aren't educated enough to do that, so they just...rot. That seems a fitting end to Tsarnaev to me.
Death row is long, expensive, and filled with appeals...it takes decades to finally put someone to death. It is cost-prohibitive. And each time he is up for an appeal, the families of the victims will have to relive it. We hear about Charles Manson every time he is up for appeal/parole, so I have no reason to believe we won't hear about Tsarnaev.
pomelo / 5220 posts
I was at the finish line and I have suffered in a fairly significant way over the last 2 years because of his actions. I was surprised at the verdict, but I think the jurors saw images and pictures that will horrify them for the rest of their lives.
I know that regardless of the sentence, we will never have the answers that so many people affected want. I don't think 100 years in prison would provide me with all of the answers I need.
My biggest hope is that he fades into obscurity. I'm so sick of seeing his face and hearing about what a nice, normal guy he once was. People change, sometimes for the worse. If he actually is repentant, then perhaps he will do us all a favor and not appeal his sentence.
clementine / 849 posts
Like some others (@rachiecakes @psw27), this is very personal for me, so it was interesting to see how I reacted to the news of his sentence. I was also at the finish line when it happened, and while I healed pretty quickly physically (very lucky to just suffer some hearing loss), the memory of that day is still very raw and real and frightening. I have been torn about the death penalty and honestly don't know if I could have made the decision. All I know is that when I heard the news, I was at peace.
@PSW27: I'm with you on never getting answers, and the hope that his face and the headlines just fade away. I'm sorry you suffered because of him... sending you healing thoughts.
coconut / 8279 posts
@psw27: @YogiRunner:
I don't know if you've heard of this: http://maresiliencycenter.org
Their services have been a tremendous help.
pomelo / 5220 posts
@rachiecakes: @yogirunner I have heard of the resiliency center, they are doing great things. Luckily my issues are emotional not physical but it's still hard as I'm sure you both know. I'm sure the trial has been draining for you both as well. Xoxo.
kiwi / 706 posts
@littlebug: yes, this. I think it is the supermax in CO and that warden said it is worse than death. I wish that had been the sentence.
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