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  1. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

    @CakeLady: Joneses

  2. CakeLady

    pear / 1657 posts

    @lawbee11: Thanks!

  3. jedeve

    pomegranate / 3643 posts

    @CakeLady: My last name ends with an S and I never add an es. I just say from the Jones. Though I think others add es. I'm in the no extra S's camp though! I usually go by the if it makes a z sound you don't need to add an extra s.

  4. mrs. wagon

    blogger / watermelon / 14218 posts

    Lucas's shoe
    Merry Christmas from the Jones Family
    The Jones's car
    The secretaries' lunch

    ...I feel pretty strongly about this, but only from all the books I read growing up! I could be (and probably am) totally wrong. I should ask Wagon Sr. He is an english major.

  5. Mrs. Blue

    blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts

    @mrs. wagon: I think you're correct and that's all that matters, right?!

  6. yoursilverlining

    eggplant / 11824 posts

    @jedeve: ditto. My last name ends in S and I don't/wouldn't add an "es" to it either. But, like I said before, I'm firmly in the no extra sssssssss camp

  7. mrs. wagon

    blogger / watermelon / 14218 posts

    @Mrs. Blue: yupperoni

  8. birdofafeather

    pineapple / 12053 posts

    I now have a last name ending in s and I always write from the Consonants Family. And I teach SAT prep and I've never seen Lucas's shoe written. I would actually always defer to Lucas' shoe. But now I'm gonna go check my books!!

  9. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

    @jedeve: @yoursilverlining: The question @CakeLady: was asking didn't involve possession, though, so it isn't really a question of whether adding an 's' is correct. Merry Christmas from the Jones family is correct, but if you do it the other way it has to be Merry Christmas from the Joneses. Merry Christmas from the Jones does not make sense and is not correct.

  10. autumnlove

    hostess / wonderful watermelon / 39513 posts

    Ha, I consulted my old book from high school. Page 1...lol!



  11. jedeve

    pomegranate / 3643 posts

    @lawbee11: @birdofafeather: @yoursilverlining: @CakeLady:

    I think it depends on the name. Mine ends in a Z sound so you shouldn't add an extra es to pluralize. Jones is an exception to that though apparently! I think if we had followed the last line we'd all be happier haha.

    http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/plurals.htm

    "When a proper noun ends in an "s" with a hard "z" sound, we don't add any ending to form the plural: "The Chambers are coming to dinner" (not the Chamberses); "The Hodges used to live here" (not the Hodgeses). There are exceptions even to this: we say "The Joneses are coming over," and we'd probably write "The Stevenses are coming, too." A modest proposal: women whose last names end in "s" (pronounced "z") should marry and take the names of men whose last names do not end with that sound, and eventually this problem will disappear."

  12. birdofafeather

    pineapple / 12053 posts

    @jedeve: dang! i didn't have a pluralized name before. but i think i get what you're saying with the hard z and my last name has that.

    @autumnlove: i'm still not sure for a family name then! to use the above last name example, would you write the Chambers' dog? or the Chambers's dog? (that looks horrible!)

  13. autumnlove

    hostess / wonderful watermelon / 39513 posts

    @birdofafeather: The dog that belongs to the Chambers family? Hahha, I have no clue!!!

  14. birdofafeather

    pineapple / 12053 posts

    @autumnlove: ie: why i always put the Chambers family. ha.

  15. MsLipGloss

    GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts

    @autumnlove: that is my bible!

  16. Mrs. Oatmeal

    blogger / honeydew / 7081 posts

    This has always driven me crazy...especially incorrect apostrophe use in the case of plurals. I don't mind if you write James' or James's, but if your last name is Williams, please don't write The William's.

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