pomelo / 5660 posts
It doesn't say you can't flush it but it says place in waste container. Aka trash can
grapefruit / 4663 posts
@kick641: another CE I was thinking the exact same thing, really nothing's flushable and you'd be surprised what we see show up at a WWTP day to day
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
If it were just tampons I'd say you totally shouldn't have to pay. But the wipes (especially because you said it's close to 20 which seems like a lot) make me think you should offer to pay a portion. At least that's what I would do.
FWIW, I always flush tampons unless there's a sign not to. It's never crossed my mind to just throw them into the waste basket. I can just see my toddler going in and dumping them all over the floor!
grapefruit / 4235 posts
@simplyfelicity: it wasn't the noise, it was the fact that she ruptured her basement pipes doing it.
grapefruit / 4235 posts
Also ...out of all the things to cause controversy on HB...never thought to flush or not to flush tampons would generate so much discussion. Also, we are going to get some weird ads from this.
wonderful clementine / 24134 posts
@kick641: No I meant it that it was great to have your input!
hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts
@lawbee11: I didn't say it's close to 20. I'm thinking of the maximum possible number of wipes that have ever been flushed. I personally have flushed a few in my day. Potty trained toddler standing in bathroom with shit on his leg and no trash can bag in at the time. But yeah I know I've flushed a few in my day.
kiwi / 585 posts
@kick641: Interesting information! Def changes my view on some things! Thanks for sharing.
cantaloupe / 6751 posts
But I guess the main question of , would I as a tenant pay for it - no, I wouldn't. I don't think landlord in this case can show that YOUR flushing of tampons and 20 wipes is negligent and/or an abuse of the septic system. Maybe if you had been flushing wipes down every single day for a year, yeah, that's negligent / abusing the septic - but not 20 wipes and/or 2 months of tampons.
persimmon / 1355 posts
I thought everyone flushed tampons. I grew up in a rural house with a septic tank, and all three females flushed tampons. It's so much grosser to put a used tampon in the trash than a pad, which can be more easily wrapped up. That being said, we own now, and this thread has freaked me out. I'm going to start putting them in the trash (but I still think it's disgusting).
nectarine / 2690 posts
@Zbug: I use a pretty good amount of TP to wrap the used tampon when throwing it away, so it doesn't soak through and it's hidden that way too. Probably a good waste of toilet paper, but cleaner than the alternative.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
My mom told me to never flush tampons, so I never have. I just wrap it up in toilet paper and toss it in the trash. I empty my bathroom trash daily when I'm on my period so that takes care of any potential smell.
I really thought the Cottonelle wipes that are marketed as flushable were safe to flush though!
Have you heard from your landlord? I don't really know what's fair in this situation.
hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts
@Mrs. Pickle: nope he still hasn't called and the property manager hasn't gotten back to me either. Just hanging right wondering what bill they want me to pay
@pinkcupcake: yep that was my initial question. Is it fair for him to require me to pay. Not whether I'm an idiot or whether it's common sense to flush tampons and a few wipes down the toilet! Thanks
cantaloupe / 6751 posts
@winniebee: although it would be interesting if this went to court ... I wonder if the reasonable (wo)man would flush tampons down
grapefruit / 4056 posts
@dagret: actually, I know a plumber (several actually) I grew up in a trades family and my Dad (who has been in the business for almost 40 years, said that as long as you do proper management to your sewer lines tampons are find but flushable wipes are not.
grapefruit / 4056 posts
@Modern Daisy: Not common sense, actually called my Dad (a plumber with almost 40 year experience) and he said unless you aren't doing proper maintenance tampons shouldn't cause an issue.
pomelo / 5298 posts
@MsMini: I'm curious, what's considered proper maintenance? We flush and if the toilet isn't flushing properly, we plunge. And we've snaked shower lines (hair seems to be our problem in the shower). I've never done anything that I'd call routine maintenance for our plumbing.
grapefruit / 4056 posts
@MamaG: He recommends any older homes (1990 or earlier) get their lines checked upon moving in, and at least once a year, especially if there are any prior issues or large trees on the property. We live in a new home, and he checks ours every 18M - 2 years. We does an extra check if we have had an issue (like my son flushing a wash cloth down the toilet LOL - that warranted an extra check ). He does a fibre-optic scope of all of his properties every 6 months but it is free for him to do.
eggplant / 11861 posts
@MamaG: I dont know what it extends but we pay a city sewer charge and it includes "maintenece"
wonderful pea / 17279 posts
@agold: in 9th grade I gavve her small brown bag that I used for my school lunches. As an adult I have given guests a plastic grocery bag b/c I have nothing smaller. @IRunForFun: yep, sure have. Sometimes I find little surprises in my trashcan, which is fine too.
apricot / 343 posts
@winniebee: you did say close to 20, you actually said that in your initial post.
hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts
@iheartleopardprint: Actually, I said "maybe 20" but thanks for jumping on this thread just to point out a possible discrepancy. Super helpful.
hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts
And this, because the poop emoji have been sorely missed on this thread
grapefruit / 4291 posts
@winniebee: I read somewhere that the poop emoji is actually chocolate soft serve...
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
@winniebee: I have had landlords verbally tell me things that weren't in the lease that I would feel bad if I ignored and something broke- like our recent landlord said not to use bleach in the washer, or fabric softener in the dryer. It didn't say anything in the lease but I still would feel bad if I broke the machines doing that.
That said- I almost always flush tampons, unless I'm someplace I know has septic or otherwise iffy plumbing. And while I've only had one period since living in this condo, I flush a flushable wipe nearly every day! They say not to flush more than 2 at once, so I'm usually careful to only do one, but yikes. Do people just people a poopy wipe in the trash? I'm in a newish (2006) building in the city so probably I'm just causing problems much further down the line.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@Foodnerd81: you can't use bleach in your washer? That's odd. And no fabric softner in your dryer? Though, I don't think you use it in your dryer... You use it in your washer. I use fabric sheets in my washer.
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
@bluestriped bee: oh yeah, I meant the fabric sheets in the dryer. Honestly I'm not sure why it was, and I never really questioned it. I never use bleach anyway (too accident prone) and we got dryer balls for the dryer. We have since bought the condo and I still don't use them or know why I shouldn't.
apricot / 343 posts
Here is something helpful then. I would offer to cover some of the cost, as you've been flushing things that aren't flushable. Sure the house is old, but to be on good terms with my landlord I would offer to cover some of the costs and tak ownership of my error.
I am not a landlord, but I doubt after a letter and no ownership of your part in the issue with the pipes will the landlord want to renew your lease. But, if this isn't an issue for you then keep doing what you're doing.
pomelo / 5607 posts
@Foodnerd81: Dryer sheets can cause a film to build up on the lint filter thing. Not sure exactly what the risk is- it might be a fire hazard, or it might just make it less efficient.
nectarine / 2821 posts
I feel like such a weirdo for reading through this entire thread! Lol.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@Foodnerd81: oh, ok. I didn't think dryer sheets were bad either. I'm now using wool balls for the baby's clothes but still use dryer sheets for adult clothing.
Ugh! I wish DH would stop using bleach. He uses it in the bathroom and I have a few bathroom rugs that have bleach spots. I finally told him to stop using straight bleach when I found another rug ruined. I showed him where the bathroom cleaner that contains bleach was located.
bananas / 9973 posts
I haven't finished reading everyone's responses, but this really is a grey area that I think costs/responsibility should be partially split. Wipes, and items that don't dissolve shouldn't be flushed for sure.
Coming from the viewpoint as a landord/rental owner, I'd be really upset if I had to pay all these costs and the tenant had been flushing wipes (though I know it's only occasionally). Every plumber and landlord I've ever spoken to has gone on and on about not putting a lot of things down the garbage disposal.
As a tenant, I remember using the garbage disposal for everything - even potato skins. It really is such a deceptive name for the stinkin thing. It's not really to throw all your garbage down the drain. Let's just say I broke/clogged a couple of garbage disposals in my time before I changed my ways. I know someone who got in trouble for always flushing hair, qtips, and regular paper towels down the toilet. Those things WILL clog drains. It's just a matter of time. I don't think they need to be spelled out a lease agreement, but since a first warning should suffice.
hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts
@iheartleopardprint: still snarky, obviously, but I'm sure that was your intent from the get go.
hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts
I do appreciate all the (the non snarky) comments. I pulled the landlord letter from the mail and am still waiting to hear from him. Neither he, nor the property mgr, nor the plumber, have called me to discuss....
kiwi / 585 posts
@winniebee: I just remembered this happened to my husband when we were in college. They asked me if I had been putting my razor blades down the drain, and other weird stuff that they hadn't put down the drain came up. Since there had been years of renters in the house, and most of the stuff obviously wasn't them (female stuff and they were all guys), the landlord covered the cost. No way he could prove it happened to them. I don't think the landlord even discussed having them cover it.
pomegranate / 3643 posts
I'm sure HB landlords are lovely, but I've had loads of bad experiences with landlords. Coming in to apartments unannounced, refusing to fix things, fixing things without notice (as in, got back from Christmas vacation and one of the bathrooms in the apartment was gone because the plumber had fallen through the floor while repairing the toilet, so they gutted it. Without telling us.) In my experience, landlord generally don't want to pay for anything, unless it's a clear violation of code (and even then....). I think you're in a tough spot because landlord have an upper hand in a power dynamic. I would try to take the high road in it all, but be very clear you want to know how much it is going to cost, the extent of the damage, etc. before you back down. Often enough once they realize they aren't working with an idiot they will be more reasonable.
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