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@Kaohinani: Feeling like a bad doctor as I've never even heard of EPF until now. Clearly I have some research to do tomorrow.
@SamsMom: Exciting updates. Oct 5 is my anniversary, so a good day with good vibes.
Why did I think you were team green 
Did you change your mind?
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@yellowbeach: I was team green with Sam, we were going to be team green again... But then the good ole pregnancy nightmares featured my husband being shot and killed in the line of duty before the baby was born and he ended up never knowing what his last child was. Thankfully the nightmares have let up, but it made me think a lot.
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@Sams Mom: Hey, preggie lady π€°! So glad you popped on to update. Wow, great news all around from you! Active babies
are a good thing! With G, a med student, also, was allowed to use the doppler on me but couldn't find his heartbeat. I was so sick for a couple minutes until my OBGYN took over and found it immediately. Very stressful but I do understand the only way a [med] student will learn is through study, scaffolding, and experience. I am also so excited you have a scan scheduled soon!
When you told me of your dream before, you seemed conflicted to know the gender, and I wondered if you were going to, indeed, find out. You already know which side I am hedging bets on @yellowbeach: Aw, don't say that. You are awesome and have been a huge asset and help here on the boards due to your vast medical experience... How many of my injuries have you helped identify (rashes, a dog bite, questions about medications ...) and gave me direction on? Can't thank you enough
. Anyway, it was a fluke that I even remembered protein EPF (and a bunch of HCG variants) existed. I had heard of it from my OBGYN about 5 years back as he had recently read up on it. At the time, I saw no application for myself since I already knew I was pregnant [and testing for EPF is not greatly available]. Speaking with the TA jumpstarted my memory and retrieved it from the dark corner (the one with the clowns π€‘ & @Paranundrum: How are you doing? π€·ββοΈ You must be incredibly busy at work!
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Thanks everyone!
@fuzzypeaches: yup, I tested again this morning and itβs definitly getting darker! The bottom test in this pic is from this morning!
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@MissLace: so awesome! Congratulations on the progressively darker line!
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@MissLace: Those look fantastic!! Since you have a GORGEOUS BFP this morning, may I add you to the roster as a BFP?
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@Yellowbeach: Some "leisure reading" (studies) on the topic of EPF:
Enjoy! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27840373
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24989882
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11410402
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8150373
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Popping in to say hi, hope everyone is well and congrats to the recent BFPs!
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@MissLace: gorgeous progression!
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@maybebaby: Hi, hun!
How's everything going with your pregnancy?
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@Kaohinani: good! 7 weeks tomorrow. tired and sore boobs but nothing major, don't have first apt until Oct 4. cheering everyone on and enjoying reading updates
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@Sams Mom: yay! So excited that baby is doing well!
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Curious if anyone knows what this could be.
I'm 3or 4 dpo ( i tracked with OPK and got my smiley on Tuesday am.) Today, I just went to the bathroom and I have a little bit of brown discharge. Not much at all but since I have white panties it's definetely visible and need to be trashed
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Hi everyone!
Iβve been lurking on here for a while (I think this new format was such a good idea!) but Iβm feeling like Iβd like to jump on for real since the support of this community was great for me last time. So hi!CD 3 today
Not sure how to count cycles overall but this is the 3rd since a loss and a pause.
My son is 2.
Iβll probably POAS on the 10/15
Slowly emerging from the madness that is the beginning of the school year (I teach 4th grade) and excited to ββmeetβ you all!
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@msmilkshake: hi! It's nice to see you on this board, and I'm sorry for your loss.
My cycles are being wonky so I'm not 100% sure, but my poas date will probably be around 10/15 as well. Cheering for you!
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@Kaohinani: yes, you can add me to the BFP list! Thanks!
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@msmilkshake: Hi! This is the first cycle we are jumping into since having our second daughter 3+ years ago. Iβm also on CD 3 and my POAS date will be about 10/15-10/16 as well. We may actually have to wait one more cycle because of a job thing (never ending saga, but I could end up with only 6 weeks of paid leave if we donβt time it right), but I should know about that right as Iβm entering my fertile window π€
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@LiliBillie: Iβm not sure what it is, but I had this one cycle. The rest of the cycle went on to be totally normal. I was so sure I was a crazy early implanter or something but unfortunately no such luck. Crossing my fingers for you though!
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@LiliBillie: Light post ovulatory spotting can be caused by a number of things. First is the hormonal surge following ovulation itself. Some women spot on occasion due to the increase in E2 (which is ovulatory spotting) or P4 (which is post-ovulatory spotting).
Another possibility (since you stated it was brown discharge) is that it is old blood, perhaps from a cervical or vaginal abrasion caused by intercourse. This can happen if you start out "dry" or are BD-ing vigorously @msmilkshake: Welcome!!! I taught upper elementary (4th, 5th, & 6th grades) and students with exceptionalities for many years before teaching adults. It is a wonderfully rewarding age to instruct but can be trying (and tiring
and I shall add your POAS date to the roster momentarily.@MissLace: I will add your BFP to the roster immediately! Also, we are not pushing you out in any way, but, if you wish to join, there is a "May Mamas' " Board available when you are ready.
https://boards.hellobee.com/topic/may-2020-mamas#post-2897119
Congratulations, again! π₯³@Becky: Keep us updated.
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π€ 2019 POAS - Sept-to-Dec Edition π€
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β’ 22 Aug - Mrs.Chickpea -
- April/May Mama
β’ 26 Aug - Paranundrum
β’ 30 Aug - Maybebaby - - May Mama
- Sept -
β’ 1 Sept - FuzzyPeaches
β’ 4 Sept - Raspberries
β’ 7 Sept - Kaohinani
β’ 7 Sept - LiliBillie
β’ 9 Sept - SweetCaroline - - May Mama
β’ 10 Sept - Chypmunk
β’ 12 Sept - ScarletBegonia
β’ 18 Sept - FarAwayMama
β’ 20 Sept - MoonMoon
β’ 22 Sept - BreakOutTheIceCream
β’ 22 Sept - Paranundrum
β’ 25 Sept - MissLace - - May/June Mama
β’ 25 Sept - Skiierchck99
β’ 27 Sept - Mrs. Panda
β’ 30 Sept - Kaohinani
No POAS -
TBD -
Drop-in BFP-
B-HCG testing - Skiierchck99 on the 25th
- Oct -
β’ 4 Oct - Marfi
β’ 7 Oct - LiliBillie
β’ 8 Oct - Yellowbeach
β’ 9 Oct - Chypmunk
β’ 10 Oct - Raspberries
β’ 15 Oct - MsMilkshake
β’ 16 Oct - Mrs. Panda
β’ 16 Oct - Becky
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No POAS -
TBD - Marfi
Drop-in BFP-
B-HCG testing -
- Nov -
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No POAS -
TBD -
Drop-in BFP-
B-HCG testing -βοΈ
- Dec -
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No POAS -
TBD -
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- Lazb
- Sam's Mom
- CrazyDogLady
- PachaMama
- BHBee
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9 dpt / 7 dpIUI -
I can't BELIEVE how long my body is holding on to the trigger injection!!!
10-MIU test with FMU:
For reference:
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@Kaohinani: This is why I hate triggers! π€―
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I became bored and figured that I would research the half life of my trigger π€¦ββοΈ -
@Yellowbeach: You may find this of interest:OVIDREL SY (prefilled injection) is 250 mcg, which is 0.5 mL. It is equivalent to 6500-IU of injectable chorogonadotropin alpha.
Following subcutaneous administration of Ovidrel (250 mcg) reaches maximum serum concentration (121 Β± 44 IU/L) sfter approximately 12 to 24 hours. Ovidrel is eliminated from the body with a mean terminal half-life of about 29 hours. After administration of Ovidrel, the mean terminal half-life is 26.5 Β± 2.5 hours and the total body clearance is 0.29 Β± 0.04 L/h. One-tenth of the dose is excreted in the urine.
So, assuming the average expression of half life is about 30 hours (-/+ 3 hours per day based on one's ability to metabolize HCG) and that after the 1st day, the rate of half-life decreases to about 26.5 hours, Ovidrel could (potentially) be excreted into non-measurable levels in one's urine anywhere from 7 to 11 days past administering the initial dose.
Doing the math =
1) 6500 Γ· 2 = 3250-IU
2) 3250 Γ· 2 = 1625-IU
3) 1625 Γ· 2 = 812.5-IU
4) 812.5 Γ· 2 = 406.25-IU
5) 406.25 Γ· 2 = 203.125-IU
6) 203.125 Γ· 2 = 101.56-IU
7) 101.56 Γ· 2 = 50.78-IU
8) 50.78 Γ· 2 = 25.39-IU (* barely detectable on 25-miu test & undetectable on 50-miu HPT)
9) 25.39 Γ· 2 = 12.69-IU (* undetectable on 20-miu HPT)
10) 12.69 Γ· 2 = 6.39-IU (* undetectable on 10-miu HPT)
11) 6.39-IU Γ· 2 = 3.17-IU (* undetectable on FRER)SOOOO, frustrating!!!
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@Kaohinani: Iβm sorry itβs awful
Iβve definitely had ovidrel trigger showing up at 10dpo (so I guess 12 past trigger). It definitely depends on a ton of factors like your biology, concentration of sample, how sensitive that particular individual test is (not just what the brand says it is), etc. Trigger is definitely a bastard. Iβve also had a 9dpo look stark white followed by squinter trigger at 10dpo just due to those variations. Hoping the next few days go quickly until youβre past it!!
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I know a few people are TTC while looking for or starting new jobs. What happens if you deliver before you have been working somewhere for a year and thus donβt qualify for FMLA? Do you negotiate?
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@Becky: I'm currently in that situation. I will be delivering less than 4 weeks before my 1 year anniversary. I am saving all my ETO, my company gives 2 weeks maternity/paternity regardless of status, I can use my sick leave that accrues at a slower rate... All in all I think I'll squeak out 6 weeks paid. I don't want to rely on this but I hear tell that the surgery department I work in (about 25 hourly employees) do a ETO gift. We're allowed to gift ETO to anyone else for any reason, so some women have managed to get a couple extra weeks of full pay.
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Update:
10 dpt / 8 dpIUI -β’ HCG from trigger is out of my system as both my 10-miu IC & a FRER came up stark white.
β’ Still slightly nauseous (absolutely blaming the Crinone). π€’
β’ Last night, I had a couple "stabby"
β’ BBT looks good (* see affixed chart)
@BHBee: Thank you!
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@Kaohinani: glad that pesky trigger is gone!
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@Sams Mom: That is so tough. I live in NY so there is paid family leave (PFLA) which basically has FMLA built in but you still have to be working for 26 weeks. Just having that available makes it feel like we should wait but getting a new job is never guaranteed.
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I just popped in to make a quick update, I still have choir trip hangover (not from drinking, from the trip itself) and I'm trying to get back on work wavelength. I'm not up to date with the posts yet either.
I was right about AF, it arrived right on the first day of my trip. I'm CD 4 today.
I had an appointment on Thursday and I ended up pushing IVF from November to January. I thought about it long and hard and with my current work situation, it felt like the right thing to do. This also gives a few more months for my SO's medications to do their thing.
Everything looks fine with me and the doc checked if I had an OV this cycle, I did, but I also have a largeish cycst in my left ovary. I'll go back in November to start getting things in order for the January IVF and to check on the cycst.The choir trip was great and while we didn't win any prizes, we did a great job and got a lot of positive feedback along with some good constructive criticism. Upward and onward. We have a concert a month starting this Saturday until Christmas (for two of which we haven't even started learning the material) and can't let loose just yet.
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@LAZB: Thank you ... I am glad it is gone as well!
@Paranundrum: Wow! I am glad you posted as I was starting to worry. I'm thrilled that your choir trip went well!
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As for me:
11 dpt / 9 dpIUI -β’ No "symptoms" at all.
β’ I woke at 2 am and felt the need to take a HPT, but I ended up watching a television show and forgot about it. π€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈπ€¦ββοΈ I assume it will be BFN, so I have no real excitement or initiative to go and look anyway. I know, crazy π€ͺ.
β’ My BBT chart (* see affixed) looks fantastic now. That stated - I have had so many months with great-looking BFN charts that I don't take it as a precursor to a BFP. -
@Kaohinani: I don't like the waiting part either, but it's for the best right now. We'll continue trying naturally, getting pregnant wouldn't be the problem right now, but taking a lot of time off for IVF would be.
My doctor said that with my SO's results, IVF is the only realistic option for us right now, but if the meds work for him, we'll probably do an IUI before getting to IVF.Hit me with allll the questions you have, I don't mind answering.
Your chart looks great!
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@paranundrum: Good call on pushing back the IVf if it would foul up your work schedule and stress you out. For some women itβs the meds, injections and hormones that make IVF hard for them, but for me the stress of trying to schedule around my job and swap shifts last minute as the plan and calendar changed - no one really talks as much about how stressful that is. I agree (as usual) with @Kaohinani: it sucks to have to wait to hear the news, but at least we all have a bunch of fun and distracting holidays upcoming.
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@yellowbeach: I agree, the end of the year tends to fly by anyway and there's usually not much to look forward to in January.
I don't work in shifts, so there's nothing to swap. I would just have to take time off and in general it's a bit easier to do now compared to my old job, but I wouldn't want to have to start skipping work so soon after starting here. And I really don't look forward to the "soooo I just came to work here, but would you mind giving me time off for fertility treatments so eventually I'd just stay home for a few years, no problems, right? (and after that occasionally stay home with a coughing kid)" conversation... I'm surprised anyone still hires young(ish) women at all.
With all that said, I'm really not looking forward to the injections either. I mean anything for a baby of course, but still, not my favourite thing.
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@paranundrum: thatβs exciting to have a path forward! Although Iβm sure the wait is hard too
AFM I am 6dpo. I have been trying to keep my mind of ttc a bit bc especially last cycle I went to a crazy place, testing a million times and researching the internet looking for a magic answer (spoiler alert, there is none π€£)
However I do wish someone would post some squinters for me to obsess about! @skiierchk99 are you going to test before your beta?! (I might have missed you answering this earlier)
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So, I'm probably jinxing myself. I thought I saw a maybe-line on the 10-miu test I took around 2 am, however it was so far past the developing time that I tossed it. I took a 10-miu HPT. DH and I "thought" we saw "something" with a VVVVVVVF pink tinge. I tried to take a pic of it but, with the lighting, it is nearly impossible to see in a photo π€¦ββοΈ. I also have a super-duper light FRER which I used a purple filter to bring out the pink tint.
My 10-miu test and FRER were blank yesterday so I am hoping this isn't left over trigger that is showing because I am extremely dehydrated. That stated, IDK if I trust the FRER π.
@FuzzyPeaches: Squint away!
@Lazb: I need your "line eye" for this.@Sams Mom: @Yellowbeach: @Paranundrum: and all the other lovely bees -
Be honest, do you see anything? What do you think: (1) Super early BFP? (2) a BFN with left over trigger? (3) Messed up tests with light [pink] indents? IDK. -
@Kaohinani: I definitely see something on both of them and that makes me hopeful it's not just a cruel prank from FRER.
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@Kaohinani: I agree something there, probably you canβt rule out trigger yet but I so hope itβs real for you!!
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@Kaohinani: omggggg Iβm crossing my fingers so hard for you!!! I definitely see it! I feel like tomorrow will let you know for sure if itβs trigger or real! Ahh
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@Kaohinani: so, I went for my blood work and ultrasound on cd2 (Saturday) and ultrasound looked good (although my pesky endometrial cyst was still present!) But estrogen came back elevated so they are having me come back on Friday for another ultrasound to make sure I don't have a lead follicles. My doc seems to think we can still proceed with a lead follicle present, we will just change the protocol if necessary
Why did I think you were team green 
Did you change your mind?
When you told me of your dream before, you seemed conflicted to know the gender, and I wondered if you were going to, indeed, find out. You already know which side I am hedging bets on 
- April/May Mama
Iβve definitely had ovidrel trigger showing up at 10dpo (so I guess 12 past trigger). It definitely depends on a ton of factors like your biology, concentration of sample, how sensitive that particular individual test is (not just what the brand says it is), etc. Trigger is definitely a bastard. Iβve also had a 9dpo look stark white followed by squinter trigger at 10dpo just due to those variations. Hoping the next few days go quickly until youβre past it!!
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