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  1. jedeve

    pomegranate / 3643 posts

    @agold: I know, I think that's the main issue. Obviously people aren't going to give up guns. I wonder what ability we would have to reduce our ammunition supply and the effect that would have. I think the "oh there's nothing that can be done" attitude is dangerous though, since the status quo isn't working. The two issues I feel strongly about are closing background check loopholes (gun show loophole, and the one where if the background check takes longer than like three days, the store can sell anyway), and an assault rifles ban. There is no need for a member of the public to have an assault rifle. And yes, criminals will still try to obtain them, but the longer they are legal, the more will be manufactured, and the more difficult it will become to get them out of criminals' hands.

    I feel so so so awful for that baby. How can you grow up knowing that your parents did that?

  2. Crystal

    grapefruit / 4028 posts

    @mediagirl: thank you, I really appreciate the kind thoughts. ❤

    @jedeve: lol, I think that covers everything!

    @mrbee: thank you for changing it.

  3. mrbee

    admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts

    @jedeve: changed it! Had to add some spaces since it was runnjng off the page as one huge word...

  4. travellingbee

    hostess / papaya / 10219 posts

    @jedeve: Just FYI: I wasn't asking you to change the thread name for me at all! I had no problem with it. I was only suggesting it because others were bothered by it.

    I very much would like to continue discussing gun control and emotional reactions to the shooting. Can I just say that even the legal/illegal weapons discussion bothers me. Where do you think illegal guns come from? Most of them were purchased legally and then sold illegally or stollen etc. We need a gun production halt. There are so many freaking guns it is ridiculous. You want one hand gun to "protect" yourself (my feelings on this I will keep to myself)-- fine. Or a shotgun to go hunt deer- OK Why does anyone need a multitude of guns or assault rifles etc???? It is stupid. And I hate that your weird obsessions with weapons or paranoia about the government trumps my and my family's right to live safe lives without the fear of a crazy person shooting up our schools, hospitals, and movie theaters. This sucks.

  5. Maysprout

    grapefruit / 4800 posts

    @travellingbee: yes on the production front. The U.S. is the largest producer and exporter of guns. there needs to be a lot more tamping down on manufacturers. I'm not against letting people arm and defend themselves but US weapon production is out of control.

  6. jedeve

    pomegranate / 3643 posts

    @Maysprout: I've heard the NRA described as the lobby for gun manufacturers, not gun owners. My uncle is a big hunter but doesn't belong to them, and belongs to a sportsmen association instead.

    It sounds like the amount of weapons they have found is staggering.

  7. mrsjazz

    coconut / 8234 posts

    How mass shooters got their guns. This from the NY Times and covers 15 mass shootings, including yesterday's.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html

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