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Should POTUS have a college degree?

  • poll: Must POTUS have a college degree?
    Yes- college/ bachelor degree : (22 votes)
    16 %
    Yes- an advanced degree is even better : (70 votes)
    52 %
    No- skipping college to work/ join military is fine : (39 votes)
    29 %
    No- skipping college to work is fine : (0 votes)
    No- skipping college to join military is fine : (3 votes)
    2 %
  1. travellingbee

    hostess / papaya / 10219 posts

    Definitely. You need an advanced degree to lead a school or a school district. Why should the person leading the country not need a college degree? And I agree about the idea that someone dropping out of college sounds worse-- no stamina? no grit? I don't want someone to run my country if you can't even commit to your own education.

  2. prettylizy

    GOLD / papaya / 10206 posts

    This post makes me sad I'm Canadian so take this with a grain of salt, but I just couldn't get behind having these types of restrictions on executive leadership. I think by virtue of their charisma and intelligence most if not all top political operatives will have some sort of higher education, it just seems like a logical course to follow when you are that type of driven person. But limiting these things is never a good idea, allowing the people to choose based on merits is the best course IMO

  3. NeekieRose

    persimmon / 1386 posts

    @erinpye: a doctor having a degree isn't really a fair comparison. You wouldn't want someone with an advanced degree in business operating on you, it is a specific advanced degree. What is the degree (advanced or not) that would be required to be president?

  4. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    I've been thinking about this, and just to throw another idea out there....if we're worried about equalizing the playing field for presidential candidacy, I'd be more interested in setting a relatively small cap on campaign spending. I think that would go much farther toward making sure people got an equal shot regardless of socioeconomic status, etc. Right now, if you're not rich or you aren't friends with a lot of rich people, you probably don't have a shot.

  5. erinpye

    pomegranate / 3706 posts

    @NeekieRose: I realize it's not an exact comparison, however, I believe in advanced education for advanced professions.

  6. LovelyPlum

    eggplant / 11408 posts

    I think so, though I'd be willing at least consider an exceptional candidate without one. But yes, I believe that POTUS should have at least some post-high school education, and an advanced degree would be better.

    @blackbird: I think I agree with this. Prior military experience is helpful, and if they'll pay for college, then yes, I think this should happen, too.

  7. Shutterbug

    grapefruit / 4703 posts

    @MrsSCB: YES. I totally agree about campaign finance reform/cap.

    ETA: to answer the question, I don't think I personally would vote for a candidate without some kind of higher education, but I'm not sure if it should be a hard and fast requirement like the other three.

  8. Mrs. Milk

    blogger / apricot / 310 posts

    ooh this is tricky! @blackbird's comment resonated with me - I need an advanced degree to do my job and it seems crazy that our president wouldn't. I also agree that what s/he studies shouldn't much matter, but the way of approaching the world and thinking that higher education provides is invaluable.

    I don't think it should be in our Constitution, but I think it should be an understood 'important life checkmark' s/he should have achieved before being elected.

  9. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

  10. jedeve

    pomegranate / 3643 posts

    I think it's kind of a moot point. Gov Walker is an exception. Most people would not be able to reach that level in politics without a degree. And I think it's unlikely he would become president. Maybe if he is a VP and the president dies or something. My money is on a Bush/Kasich ticket however.

  11. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    @lawbee11: YES, that's my girl! I wish I could use a high-five emoji, lol.

  12. Mrs. J

    pomelo / 5132 posts

    I think that the higher/critical thinking skills that are required for a college degree and advanced degree are important traits for a POTUS. Would I totally eliminate anyone who didn't have that degree? No, but I'll echo previous posters in that it is pretty hard to find a person who has the brains and skills of a Bill Gates that hasn't gone to school. I'd evaluate all candidates fairly, but to compete on a world level, our POTUS needs to be the best of the best. No, a PhD doesn't guarantee that, but experience and knowledge are key for the highest office in the land.

  13. sunny

    coconut / 8430 posts

    @Mrs. Jacks: Yes, there are some legendary stories about Bill and his lack of diplomacy! However, I think he's mellowed out now that he's older.

  14. Maysprout

    grapefruit / 4800 posts

    I don't think it should be required but I probably wouldn't vote for someone without one.

    Being a child/sibling/spouse of a past president is another big one that would make me very very unlikely to vote for that candidate.

  15. NeekieRose

    persimmon / 1386 posts

    @Maysprout: with that criteria, you may not be able to vote for a major party candidate in 2016! (Not that I'm disagreeing with you....a Bush vs. Clinton race would really annoy me)

  16. MrsBananaGrabber

    apricot / 309 posts

    I posted already, but I wanted to add to it after seeing so many posts about how people without degrees can still be smart and capable.

    Yes, people without any college education can be extremely intelligent. At our office, we have a good mix of people with advanced degrees (primarily JDs as it is a law firm), people with only bachelor's degrees, people with some college experience and no degrees, and people without any college education at all. We also recently did some intelligence and aptitude testing. Some of the people with the least education scored the highest, which was not at all surprising. A lot of extremely intelligent people have little or no college experience. HOWEVER, there is also a noticeable difference between the college educated and non-college educated employees. The college educated people tend to be much more eloquent than even the most intelligent non-college employees, which is a somewhat important trait for a president. They are better writers, better presenters, and generally carry themselves with a more professional demeanor. I know that there are tons of exceptions, and surely everyone knows someone without a college education who comes across as professional and well-spoken, but that's just what I've observed from the people at work.

    Additionally, in today's world, it is common and not at all difficult to get a college degree. This isn't the time of Washington or Lincoln where self-education was common for intelligent, studious people. If someone who truly wants to be in politics hasn't taken the initiative to enroll in and finish college, you have to wonder why.

    I certainly don't think there should be an official requirement that a president have any sort of education. However, as I have to have an advanced degree just to advocate under the laws POTUS signs, I'm certainly not going to vote for someone without bachelor's at a minimum.

  17. Mrs.KMM

    grapefruit / 4355 posts

    Do I think it should be a requirement written into the Constitution? No – absolutely not.

    But I honestly can't see myself taking a candidate without at least a college degree seriously.

  18. meredithNYC

    pomegranate / 3314 posts

    I agree with others that it shouldn't be a requirement, but I cannot see myself voting for someone without a degree.

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