For example:
Spanking- yay or nay?
School- Private, public, homeschool, etc.
They can be hot button or minor issues. I want to hear them all : )
For example:
Spanking- yay or nay?
School- Private, public, homeschool, etc.
They can be hot button or minor issues. I want to hear them all : )
pomelo / 5220 posts
Division of parenting and household tasks. Its our number 1 disagreement (ex. day care pick up and drop off)
wonderful clementine / 24134 posts
It was an evolution for us. A lot that we couldn't really talk about before baby.
Big thing for us was breastfeeding support. I made sure DH knew how much a can of formula cost so he was fully supportive when I needed an expensive pump, nursing bras, etc.
pear / 1955 posts
I'd say big financial decisions - daycare vs. nanny, working schedules (especially if one of you is going to part-time or stay at home), retirement/college/general savings, etc.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
@psw27: Definitely this. Determining who's doing what once the baby is here is HUGE. I feel like all the other things you can kind of figure out as you go along! But if one person is currently in charge of most of the household tasks, you have to know how things are going to be redistributed with a baby in the picture BEFORE it happens.
apricot / 347 posts
...religion, circumcision, parenting style, what's important to each of you in terms of discipline and just the way you'll raise them, what each of your parents fid or didn't do and what you'd like to bring into your parenting vs avoid
coconut / 8430 posts
I would say the biggest is probably childcare. Will you have one parent stay home, or will both parents work and you will use an outside provider (grandma care, nanny, daycare).
I think everything else you can just figure out. I would say I really had no idea about how I'd feel until baby was actually here. And even then -- I changed my mind about childcare arrangements!
eggplant / 11824 posts
Religion
Punishment
Expectations of both parents re: SAH or WOH
Desires of both parents to SAH or WOH
Household divisions
Baby-care divisions
Any truly hardline thoughts or things you will not compromise on – i.e., “daycare is evil”, “you must SAH/WOH to be a “good” parent”, no vaccination, etc.
There’s probably tons more.
squash / 13208 posts
@Adira: this was something that never occurred to me to discuss and then I was pregnant and DH said "So, when are you quitting your job?"
I had zero plans of quitting.
grapefruit / 4988 posts
So many things! I'd say the discussions that helped us out the most were:
- Distributions of tasks, particularly household tasks and parenting tasks. These changed after LO arrived. DH picked up more house work since I was dealing with breastfeeding and handling LO. We split things like LO's laundry, I dealt with all the LO milk/food stuff (cleaning bottles, etc), and DH started doing more of the cooking for me and him.
- Work and financial stuff. We both knew she would be in daycare full time and I would go back to work. At one point, I considered staying home though and we talked about it. We are always on the same page.
- Agreement that we are a team. This has been important because having a LO can really test relationships. When things get tough, we remind each other that we are on the same team. Now that she is older, we try to always back each other up around her to present a unified front. It really does help.
cantaloupe / 6869 posts
Roles and Responsibilities for Child/House/etc: Division of labor conversations are important in terms of revealing expectations of both partners. I think the saddest topic that I read on HB regards the woman picking up all the slack in terms of house/childcare while the man does not do their share. I think it's important even before marriage to discuss your expectations in that regard.
How Many Children You Want: You should be on relatively the same page with this. Of course, it can change but if partners want vastly different things, then conflict arises.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
@Mamaof2: Yeah, I always assumed I'd work part time once we had kids, but Hubs was really against that! Good to know!
pomelo / 5220 posts
@Adira: Oh yeah... the re-division is the hardest part - mostly for my husband in our case. He had to realize that when we didn't have a LO, I was more able to do all of the cooking (I like to cook), and a lot of the cleaning since his job is more intense. But now that we have LO its impossible for me to do all of that + LO + work full time.
cherry / 157 posts
For us it was division of labour and of taking care of the household chores and child care. Even if you've lived together for years and have it all figured out, adding kids changes everything.
persimmon / 1322 posts
Finances and work plans and desires and according childcare plans.
Division of household and baby related tasks. Who will be up in the middle of the night, who does dishes, cooks dinner, etc.
How many kids.
Discipline, rules, expectations.
Parenting styles in general.
School plans, including preschool.
There's so much to discuss. But honestly, I think it's an ongoing conversation. New issues and things to discuss will always continue to arise.
Eta: stance on sleep training.
pomelo / 5524 posts
I'd have to say a big one for us was not being resentful. If you have a problem with the way someone is doing something, speak up. In turn, you have to be open to criticism as long as it's constructive.
Also, the division of labor in caring for the child. Naturally, if you're breastfeeding, DH isn't going to be able to do much in terms of feeding unless you're pumping. Set expectations right away with what you're looking for him to do in order to be an equal parent, and let go a little. Just because it's not your way doesn't mean it's not right. You need to give your DH the confidence that he knows what he's doing or he won't want to help.
Don't count the number of times you get up in the middle of the night vs. the number he gets up. If you take turns, do your best, and be considerate of each other when you know one or the other has had a bad night, you'll be far better off.
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
I think the only thing we discussed prior to getting married was whether or not we wanted children. We didn't quantify, we didn't set a timeframe, nothing like that, because if I've learned a thing in my lifetime it is that your feelings on things change. And that is what I wanted to understand in my partner, was he flexible and willing to accept what came our way or was he so rigid that our marriage would fall apart if some future desire didn't materialize.
wonderful cherry / 21504 posts
Childcare and division of labor- I always planned to sah if possible and made sure Dh knew that before we got married even, so we could work out any disagreements long before babies. I would say that was the biggest one to agree on before hand. That goes hand in hand with finances.
Everything else I either knew without discussing (we are both very pro vaccines so never had to really talk about it, for example) or evolve as we figure out this parenting thing (discipline, CIO or not...).
honeydew / 7622 posts
Eh, I think those conversations are important to a certain extent. However when a child actually comes expectation vs reality is so different. What's more important IMO is having a partner that is flexible and communicates well. Being a parent is a constantly evolving process.
grapefruit / 4800 posts
I think just the basics of marriage help - good communication and respect for one another.
We talked a lot about how other people parented and what we liked/ didn't like. It might sound bad or gossipy but we realized just bc something wasn't our style doesn't mean anything. But it did make the biggest difference to see real world examples and talk about it. And after we had kids things changed too and we adapted.
grapefruit / 4455 posts
@youboots: I agree.
You may find your wants and needs change a lot post baby (or they may not.) Just letting dh know that I would need night help helped us be in a good frame of mind for #2, since with #1 I tried to do it all. But no specifics.
persimmon / 1445 posts
@youboots: THIS!!! My husband and I talked about so many things through my first pregnancy and agreed on some very realistic financial goals and parenting techniques. I would WOH full-time, he would WOH semi-part time (30 hours) and DD would go to daycare part-time and get watched by grandparents part time. She would be 100% breastfed. We would sleep train and never bed share. Well... out comes DD and everything changed. I absolutely could not leave her, and when I did go back to work, I would sob into my desk. The stress of being away from my baby caused me to stop being able to pump as much, so we ended up supplementing with formula. I missed her terribly at work, so she slept in our bed for months so I could get my cuddles in. My husband got a job offer in a different city that made just enough to cover all of our expenses. He offered to let me stay at home, which would not have been financially possible before this job. I jumped at the chance and we are all SO much happier. The most important thing in my opinion is to communicate when your wishes change. The only parenting decisions we haven't changed are religion and the number of kids!
persimmon / 1427 posts
@youboots: YES!!
Its important to understand what being a parent looks like to your SO and what type of life you both want to have for your kids. An understanding of their childhood vs what they want for their kids is also helpful.
apricot / 340 posts
If you two have different religious beliefs then relision is a must to discuss.
Circumcision (if its a boy)
Discipline (when they are little and teenagers)
Expectation of the kids regarding extracurricular activities (force them or let them choose/ not do any)
Division of parenting duties (middle of the night wake ups, diaper changes, what to do if the baby is sick)
And childcare (sah parent, vs daycare) and what will you two do of someone suddenly changes their mind once the baby gets here. It happens, I did a 180!
Vaccines
Bonding time after birth- let people come right away or hide out for awhile
Bottle vs breast
Cloth vs disposable diapers
Alot of things change once the baby comes out. You need to be able to communicate and go with the swing of things.
I swore I was going to be a working mom whose baby would never sleep anywhere but in her crib. Once the baby came I realized I wanted to stay home and cosleep!
persimmon / 1339 posts
I actually wouldn't talk about schools until your child is at least 3 or 4, you don't know what kind of kid they are yet and what their needs will be (and even then, so much can change between then and when they are teenagers).
I think the most important thing to agree on before the baby comes is keeping the lines of communication open. Its very, very easy to shut down when you are dealing with an infant all day, but my husband and I found it really important to turn off the TV and talk at least for 10/15 min every night about parenting stuff or just life stuff. When I was on maternity leave I needed to offload if I'd had a tough day, or gloat if I'd had a good day and there isn't anyone else who wants to hear that much about your baby! Now that we're both working f/t its more about cute stuff our son did at daycare, discipline issues, and how we will spend our precious time as a family.
I would have to say that the stuff we talk about now probably wouldn't have even occurred to me before we met, and got to know, our son and his quirks.
Also if/when you go out on date nights no shop talk! Thats the time to be mushy and romantic and talk about you. At least thats our rule!
kiwi / 649 posts
Great responses.
@looch I agree. Also what works for our first kid might not work with our second or third. I defiantly understand that.
@maysprout Ha, we do that too.
@scarletbegonia Good point. We're most likely going to have to stick with public school due to finances. I think the hardest part is going to be deciding if we should move and where, since the middle/ high school schools in our neighborhood are awful. In general the public schools in our city are terrible
nectarine / 2148 posts
I think things like household division and childcare, including sah and woh are the big ones.
You definitely need to touch upon all of it as nothing ever goes as planned and you want to make sure you can male decisions together when sleep deprived, aggravated, etc.
grapefruit / 4187 posts
There's a lot you won't be able to predict/plan before baby arrives but I would just say your overall expectations are important to discuss. Like if you are against ever staying home or if you want to raise the kids in a house instead of an apartment etc.
pomelo / 5866 posts
How to handle the night time waking situations. If breastfeeding, you're on. If not, there is room for discussion. You don't want to make that decision sleep deprived.
How to adjust finances for anything baby AND child related. Make a budget estimating costs and see how you will reprioritize to cover those costs.
How to handle doctor appointments and illness. Who is making them? Who is going to them? Prenatal and well child visits. Illnesses.
How to adjust household chores/responsibilities.
*We had no baby related discussions until we were pregnant! So these were the biggest priorities!
wonderful pear / 26210 posts
@travelingnanny: That's not exactly what I meant, but yes, what works for one child might not work for another.
In my mind, I was thinking more along the lines of we both know we would like to have children. But, sometimes, our biology doesn't cooperate. If my husband had said that he absolutely wanted children and we weren't able to have them, would he want a divorce? Would he want to pursue treatments? Or would he say that our family is complete with the two of us?
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persimmon / 1339 posts
@travelingnanny: I just thought of one more - although its a sad topic I think its worthwhile to discuss how you would each feel if you got unexpected news about the baby in pregnancy. I have two friends right now who are dealing with news that was very surprising (one from their 12 week scan, the other from the anatomy scan at 20 weeks), and it is proving to be very hard on their relationships as they hadn't discussed anything like that before getting pregnant, and both have wildly different opinions that their partners. I have to admit that my husband and I skirted the issue of what we would actually do if we got that type of news, and since discussing it with our friends we have had some in depth discussions, and I feel a lot more secure on how we would meet those challenges if we decide to go for #2.
kiwi / 649 posts
@carletbegonia- That's devastating I'm so sorry your friends are dealing with this.
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