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You know how sorry I feel for the diners at Alinea?

Who had to listen to a screaming baby while eating a $500 mea l ?

Not sorry. I get to do that every night and only have a can of soup to comfort me. Duck five ways would help, I think.

  1. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    Not gonna lie, I would not be pleased. I've been to some fabulous restaurants like Alinea before and they are just not kid-friendly. Some people save for months and make reservations far in advance. I know I would feel AWFUL if my crying child made their experience unpleasant. I love kids, but there are certain places I would never bring a child.

  2. erinpye

    pomegranate / 3706 posts

    @MrsSCB: agree.

  3. mrbee

    admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts

    Huh? Not following...

    In any case, I would be pretty horrified if my kids ruined an expensive meal/experience for someone...

  4. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    I am assuming this is a rather high end restaurant?

    I would be annoyed, absolutely. As a parent, it is important to realize that not every place in the world is child friendly, not should it be.

  5. blackbird

    wonderful grape / 20453 posts

    This attitude is why screaming children occur in restaurants and ruin it for everyone else. They act out or scream and the parents don't remove them from the situation because they have little sympathy for everyone else since it's just a part of their daily lives. $100 dinner or $500 dinner, doesn't matter.

  6. yellowbird

    honeydew / 7303 posts

    Hahahaha!!! My LO threw a tantrum at a Mexican restaurant the other day and we had to leave.

  7. Dandelion

    watermelon / 14206 posts

    I'd feel bad, too. I wouldn't be bringing my kid to a place like that, if he/she wasn't good in restaurants. I wouldn't be able to enjoy MY $500 meal, knowing my kid was right there, screaming. That's the type of place to leave the kid with grandma.

  8. Mamaof2

    squash / 13208 posts

    That's why I usually stick with chic-fil-a for my kids - LOL!

    Once my DD was around 14 months and we were at a fairly nice restaurant - we went at 5pm thinking since it was early food would come out quickly - but nope - after 45 mins DD had enough - I took her outside and my mom waited for them to pack all our food to go - we ended up eating in the hotel room while DD happily ran around and played - I would have never sat there and let her, us and everyone else be miserable

  9. sotofamilia

    kiwi / 612 posts

    @blackbird: I totally agree. I would never subject other people trying to eat their dinner to my kid screaming, no matter what kind of restaurant. My little guy had a hard time at Red Robin last week of all places, and my husband and I took turns walking him around. In my opinion, I signed up to take care of my child and deal with him when he's cranky...other people did not.

  10. Greentea

    pomelo / 5678 posts

    Might be an unpopular opinion ...but I think this whole thing is kinda sad. To be honest I don't know the whole story and I do not want to debate but I don't agree with banning babies or children. I can't go out to eat with my lo but I don't like the sentiment of banning.

  11. honeybear

    nectarine / 2085 posts

    @looch: Alinea is a major foodie destination. Achatz is one of the kings of molecular gastronomy.

    I feel like the protocol for fancy restaurants, as well as some theatre, ballet, and opera performances, is that you get a babysitter or you wait to go until the child is older. I've given really expensive ballet tickets away to friends because I didn't want to leave my baby. I'm looking forward to taking my child to nice restaurants and the theatre, symphony, and ballet*, but now isn't quite the right time.

    *I suppose I should clarify "theatre, symphony, and ballet performances that are not specifically child-oriented."

  12. Mae

    papaya / 10343 posts

    This is the story the OP is referencing: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local/chicago_news&id=9392210

    Basically it's a $250/person super fancy schmancy restaurant people wait MONTHS to get into. Table brought an 8 month old and let it scream, ruining everyone's dinner. The Chef is considering banning children now.

    Totally 10000% in favor of banning babies in nice restaurants. Why on EARTH would you take a baby there? Not caring if your kid ruins other people's days is just self centered and selfish.

  13. MsLipGloss

    GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts

    @jedeve: Really? Adults should be able to go out and enjoy an evening without a screaming baby, or ridiculously loud diners, or an obnoxious cell phone user . . . the list goes on. As a parent, I understand how exhausting and frustrating a fussy baby can be. Jeebus knows I have been there. But that phase doesn't last forever . . . Many other couples in the restaurant lived through that phase--multiple times--with their own children, other couples may have finally been able to manage a night out without their LO(s) to celebrate an anniversary, a promotion, or just finally being able to have an evening alone. To not have compassion or at least understanding about that is, well, pretty shallow actually.

    @blackbird: I totally agree. It is inconsiderate regardless of the cost of the meal.

  14. kjpugs

    grapefruit / 4862 posts

    Totally disagree. I mean yeah, LO crying last night made me cut out half of what I was trying to make myself for dinner. I got a sweet potato. HA! So that sucks. But when you go out to eat you deserve - no matter where you go - a pleasant evening that does not involve baby screams. I chose to have a baby, people in a restaurant perhaps did not.

    My personal rule is that if I can't wear a casual tee to a restaurant I don't bring bitty. And if she cries, I leave to calm her down. Period, the end. Just like people shouldn't have to deal with secondhand smoke if they don't want to, not everyone wants secondhand baby either.

  15. pui

    bananas / 9899 posts

    Why the heck would someone bring a baby to a restaurant with plates that expensive? Just... why?

    I do feel sorry for those people. They were probably hoping for a nice, quiet dinner away from screaming kids.

  16. MsLipGloss

    GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts

    @kjpugs: "secondhand baby* = awesomesauce. I will be using that in the future!

  17. BKCaribBaby

    pear / 1672 posts

    One of the reasons DH and I waited so long to have kids was because we knew our life would change. We wouldn't always be able to go to the same places that we used to before (like Alinea or any NYC equivalent that we've been to before). As parents we have to decide and recognize that there are age appropriate situations and places for children. It's not a bad thing to say that children shouldn't be in certain restaurants or venues because there are lots of great options for them elsewhere. Anyway, it's too bad that the restaurant is considering this but at the end of the day, it was the parents' choice to bring the baby and not the baby's.

  18. LuLu Mom

    GOLD / wonderful olive / 19030 posts

    This is just inconsiderate, for us a meal like that would be something super special & something we saved for. I would be sooo pissed off if I listened to a baby crying the whole time. In my case this meal would probably be us trying to get some alone time away from our crying child at home! I think there are certain places young children do not need to be, a a 250/plate restaurant is one of them. I'm all for certain restaurants banning young children, it is the atmosphere they want to create, more power to them.

  19. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    I completely disagree!

    I don't think that made a pleasant experience for other diners nor the parents themselves. For a $500 date night out, I would NOT have brought an 8 month old. It's not fair to the child either.

    I am 100% a child-ban rule if the atmosphere calls for it!

  20. littlebug

    honeydew / 7504 posts

    Yeah, people save for MONTHS to be able to have a nice night like that....probably away from their own screaming, whining, crying kids. I'd have been suuuuuper pissed if I'd been dining in that restaurant. I have to cut my dinner short sometimes because D is being a PIA....but that shouldn't affect everyone else in the restaurant. No. You want a nice night out? Hire a babysitter. Don't subject everyone else to your kid.

  21. Mrs. Pickle

    blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts

    I would be highly upset if I waited six months for reservations and spent $500 to listen to a baby cry. Some places really aren't kid friendly.

  22. jedeve

    pomegranate / 3643 posts

    Ahhhhhhh I was just making a joke saying some good food might help with a bad night with a fussy baby.

    I'll never eat a five hundred dollar meal so I guess I just can't relate!

  23. MsLipGloss

    GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts

    @jedeve: The price of the meal isn't the issue . . . it's the fact that the couple didn't have any consideration for their fellow diners. The same is true whether you are eating at Outback or Alinea.

  24. jedeve

    pomegranate / 3643 posts

    Mr. Bee can you delete this thread?

  25. mrbee

    admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts

    @jedeve: Sure I'll close it now, and then delete it later in the day! (Otherwise we'll get questions asking what happened to the thread, etc.)

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