We are beta testing this feature now - it's been our #1 feature request for a while now!
Please try it out and let us know what you think!
* http://boards.hellobee.com/profile/edit
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Oooh that's a great idea! Thanks.
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My initial reaction:
The icons make it appear as though a miscarriage is only the loss of half a baby. (i get what you were going for, but it was a little disturbing nonetheless).
I feel like it would make sense for miscarriage and loss to both be full circles, but maybe in different colors?
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@MaryM: We're open to alternatives! Re: colors though, we're currently using colors to indicate gender.
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@mrbee: I noticed the "half babies" too. I haven't had a miscarriage so I really cannot speak to how I would feel about that. What about using different shapes instead of half circles? Stars or hearts maybe?
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I actually interpreted the pregnancy and miscarriage icons as a "bump" shape. What was it meant to be?
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@Anya: Yah exactly, it's meant to be a bump! We considered other shapes, but liked that a half-circle shape implied a pregnancy bump.
We thought about maybe using icons of little babies, but that got into tricky issues around skin color and race. So we wanted to sidestep that by using more abstract shapes that hinted a bump vs baby!
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I didn't think anything of the shape, for what it's worth. And I love the feature!
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What about baby face icons? Loss babies either have closed eyes or no face? Hopefully that makes sense.
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Maybe just halos and no circle for miscarriage?
Even if the half circle signifies a bump and not a half baby, I still feel like it's rather insensitive.
Miscarriage is not just the loss of a pregnancy, it's the loss of a person we expected to be in our lives. I think a halo with no circle would symbolize that loss even better.
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Great feature, thanks!
I like the bump shape, but a heart would be good too! -
Love it!
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@Torchwood: Thanks!
@Mrs.Someone: Would the baby faces have a skin tone to them? Trying to visualize it!
@MaryM: We'd be open to just a halo for a miscarriage... but then conveying gender would be tricky. Would the halo change color? Also, would pregnancy still remain a bump/half-circle? Thanks!
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@mrbee: I'm not as bothered by the bump for pregnancy. and different colored halos might be a good option.
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I love that I can add both of my kids
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@MaryM:@mrbee: I think the bump for pregnancy and the bump for a miscarriage are consistent. The bump for miscarriage doesn't imply a half a baby any more than the bump for pregnancy does. I say this as someone who, had a miscarriage, has a child, and is pregnant, so basically every icon applies to me and I don't take issue with any of them.
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@mrbee: Good question. Maybe picture them like
with a paci, a bow (girls), little baby curl? Just trying to think of a way to make them less dot like.
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I think the half circle/bump makes sense and doesn't offend me. I like the new update!
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@mrbee: While I am not bothered by the bump/half circle (I think it makes sense since the pregnancy one is the same), some people clearly are. What about a circle with wings? Maybe even switch the loss to the halo and the angel baby to the wings? I dunno. But that way you still have the colors, full circles and a way of designating the miscarriage vs angel baby. Just a thought.
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I have been lucky enough not to experience a miscarriage, but, I don't like the idea of halos or wings. I'd rather not use Christian imagery, since not all of our members are Christians or theists. I'm not sure I'm in love with the half circle/bump, but I haven't any objection to it.
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@LAZB: It makes me so happy to hear that! We weren't originally going to have support for miscarriages and angel babies in the launch, but went back and added them.
@Mrs Hedgehog: We were going to go with wings instead of halos at first! But just couldn't get them to shrink down cleanly (the circles get pretty small on the profile).
@lilyofthewest: I'm an atheist and agree that more inclusive imagery would be better, if possible! In the end, what persuaded me is that most people use the phrase "angel baby"... so we decided to go with imagery that supported those words.
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@lilyofthewest: I'm an Atheist but I'm not offended by the religious connotations of the halo/wing symbols. I understand what those symbols represent and because of that I'm not offended. I don't know what would represent death better, except maybe little skulls, which honestly is probably insanely offensive to anyone who's experienced loss. So, unless there's a better suggestion, I'm certainly not offended by the simplicity of a halo/wing symbol.
I did a quick search of non religious or anti religious symbols for death and there isn't a whole lot that is easily recognizable.
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Thanks for adding this new feature! However, I have to agree with the half circles. I can see how it's consistent with the pregnancy bump shape, but adding the halos on top of it makes it seem more like a half circle/child instead of a bump.
I second a heart shape (pink, blue, or green) to signify gender. Another idea would be to have tiny flowers and cars as icons. A more elaborate icon can be a tiny bee. A tiny gender icon can be alongside of it (if sex is identified) - that way people can opt to not disclose and have the same icon as everyone else.
The matching angel baby icons could be:
- an outlined heart (pink, blue, or green)
- angel wings
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Nice feature. Maybe a heart?
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Great feature! I don't like the idea of a halo or angel wings though. I've never liked the term angel baby, even after experiencing losses. I think a half circle or heart is more inclusive.
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What about a little wreath of flowers?
I get that some of you don't like the terms or symbolisms of the halo/wings, but they are nationally recognized and associated with the loss of a child. It's about being able to easily recognize the members status/situation.
ETA: or maybe daisies? puzzle with piece missing?
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I like this! Thanks!
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@mrbee: I'm having a problem adding M, because your March 2014 doesn't have 31 days!
I'm also having a problem adding S, because I had and lost her on the same day.
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Thanks for including losses that were not miscarriages.
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As someone who has experienced a miscarriage and a stillbirth, I am glad to have those babies included! I don't call my losses angel babies, but agree it is a universal symbol of baby loss. I'm not sure what else I would suggest using, flowers? hearts?
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@Dandelion: I see what you mean, looking into it!!
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@autumnlove: Hearts seem like a good idea that could still easily be color coded and wouldn't offend those not believing in heaven.
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<< I'm having a problem adding M, because your March 2014 doesn't have 31 days! >>
@Dandelion: Thanks, you found a bug! We just squashed it... try again?
<< I'm also having a problem adding S, because I had and lost her on the same day. >>
@Dandelion: Would leaving off all the dates work? Or if not, let me know how you'd like it to work!
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I love this feature! Thanks
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@mrbee: got it! I didn't know I could leave them off.
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Love this feature.
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@mrbee: I agree with @MaryM, I understand what you were going for, but don't love the imagery for miscarriages.
@Mrs Hedgehog: I like this idea!
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I personally don't mind the current shapes being used, but since others have mentioned the half-circle bothers them, what about doing circles for all symbols? Filled in circles for born babies and losses (like what is currently being used) and an unfilled circle (so just the outline) for expected babies and miscarriages. And continue to use the halo for the losses.
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@Adira: Funny, we were just discussing using unfilled circles as a possible alternative!
What do you all think... would unfilled circles (just a colored outline) work for pregnancies and miscarriages? (Children and losses would remain the same.)
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@mrbee: Maybe just for miscarriages? I don't have particularly strong feelings but the unfilled circle for a pregnant woman gives me a bad vibe. Like an empty womb, which is the opposite of what's happening.
with a paci, a bow (girls), little baby curl? Just trying to think of a way to make them less dot like.
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