I've been watching the coverage of the hearing that taking place today in Italy to determine if she'll have to stand trial for murder again.
Do you think she's guilty? I don't know why, but I don't think she is.
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I don't think she's guilty.
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What? When did this happen? What's changed? Last I heard she was let off a couple of years ago...
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I don't think so either.
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I don't think she's guilty either. I don't know why I think that, just my gut reaction.
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@illumina: The Italian prosecutors are trying to appeal their retrial and make them stand trial for murder again. The hearing to determine if they will have to is today.
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I don't think she is either. At least, that's the impression that I get. I think it's ridiculous that they can retry her!
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@zippylef: So I guess the whole "double jeopardy" thing does not apply in Italy?
That's pretty scary if you think about it...
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@rahlyrah: Nope. Their legal system is... odd.
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@zippylef: But the United States won't extradite, will it?
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@Arden: Its entirely possible the US could refuse to extradite her because of double jeopardy. Plus, they would have to show clear evidence of guilt and the evidence in the case was all contaminated and circumstantial.
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Its funny... I have never met an American who thought she was guilty... And I have never met a British person who thought she was innocent.
I think the media coverage here may have been very different. It endlessly showed her reaction to the murder in the hours after it. It was truly sickening.
If she is not guilty she has major mental problems. Cartwheels and making out with your boyfriend moments after your supposed friend and room mate was molested and slaughtered in your house? Sick.
As I said, the perception of her here is very different.
I don't think there is anyway she will be going back there for trial, so its a moot point really.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say I don't think she's innocent (and I'm an American). I don't she necessarily did the stabbing, but I think she was there in participated. Something about her is just not right and she did not act the way an uninvolved person acts following the murder.
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I don't thnk she is but I think her bf might have done it.
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This whole case is just so surreal. I never thought she was guilty, and I think about how easily that could have been any college kid on a semester abroad. I also feel like maybe my (US) media coverage has been biased, but to me it was always so clear that the other guy Rudy Guede was the murderer alone.
ETA: I do think her behavior after the murder was strange, and she probably does have some narcissistic mental issues and was super immature, but I don't think that reacting in the wrong way makes you guilty.
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I don't think she is guilty either.
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No I was so mad she was convicted the first time. I use to follow the case closely. The USA will never extradite her under Italian court system and its flaws in this case.
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My gut says guilty - her behavior was really strange. But seeming guilty doesn't always mean guilty, and if the courts couldn't prove it, then she shouldn't have to keep being retrialed.
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@zippylef: Ahh ok. So in theory could this go on forever? As in every decision could be appealed?
@sea_bass: interesting point. She did appear to act really strangely.
I don't think she was the one who killed Meredith, but I think she knows more than she lets on and maybe had some involvement...
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I must have missed this. What changed? I'm so lost...
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@sea_bass: I'm American and I think she's guilty-- not sure if she was the main perpetrator or involved in another way, but I don't think she's innocent.
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Not guilty. The police seemed pretty manipulative and more interested in getting a good story than do any real investigating.
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Not guilty in my opinion. She was terribly manipulated by the Italian authorities. If you describe her behavior after the crime I can understand why someone would think it points to guilt but you have to remember, she was so young and having all this fun studying abroad, had a new Italian boyfriend she still wanted to spend time with, and honestly she barely knew Kircher. I'm not saying it was kind, adult behavior but I don't think kissing her boyfriend or doing a cartwheel means a girl with no criminal past is a murderer.
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@sea_bass: I don't know, I think her odd behavior was covered pretty extensively here in the US. At least I remember hearing about it a lot. I also haven't really gotten the feeling that people here overwhelmingly believe in her innocence, although I think the population probably does lean that way.
That being said, personally I'm not very convinced either way. I feel like there are details to suggest both innocence and guilt. At the very least, for me there is enough reasonable doubt that I don't believe she should be convicted. I realize the laws of conviction in Italy are probably different, though.
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We have some mutual friends and everyone in her circle is pretty much in the camp that she is 100% innocent (obviously).
I am not sure. I don't think she did the killing but maybe she was present?
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Living in Seattle, I heard people around here were really excited that she was found innocent.
I don't really have an opinion. I think I followed the story for about a couple weeks. Now, I don't remember which story this was.
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I agree with some of the PPs that said maybe she didn't "do the deed," but I think she definitely played a part in it... Again, as stated, her behavior just seemed...off...
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I don't care how long you berate me, I would NEVER confess to a crime I didn't commit. That, plus the changing stories and the lies... I have always felt she had some involvement (and I am American AND I live in Seattle). I haven't heard what's going on now with the possibility of the retrial, but I hope for that poor Meredith's sake that they found some new evidence that leads to SOMEONE going to jail for her murder. I have never, ever felt sorry for Amanda, but I sure always did feel sad for her family.
I also think if you were innocent, you'd want to go back to living some semblance of a normal life, and all Amanda has done is try to profit from the whole thing by selling her story. Disgusting. -
Well it looks like they overturned her acquittal... http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/26/world/europe/italy-amanda-knox-case/index.html
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I don't know if she's guilty or not but I don't see her ever getting a fair trial.
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@Pink Champagne: Massive + 1
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@septemberlove: Amen. There is no physical evidence and there are no witnesses to place her there. I still am not 100 percent sure of her guilt or innocence but there is simply not enough evidence for me to believe that a conviction would be fair.
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@Pink Champagne: I'm not really sure it's fair to say that all she's been doing is selling her story. It seems like she's kept a pretty low profile since returning to the states until recently. Yes, she's scheduled to speak to Diane Sawyer soon, but she won't get paid for that. And she is releasing a book, but I don't really fault her for that because it might be hard for her to get a normal job considering her notoriety. She has to make money somehow. I guess I just can't really say what I'd do in her situation, but I don't think I've seen all that much of her over the last year or so since she was released.
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@Pink Champagne: that's a widespread belief... that only guilty people confess to crimes. Great article on it here:
http://nymag.com/news/crimelaw/68715/Lots of convictions from confessions have been overturned by DNA evidence... it's pretty amazing how often it happens.
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Unless we've been in the situation, none of us really know how we'd act or what we'd do. Poor behavior doesn't make a person guilty. I think she's innocent.
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@Pink Champagne: ive never really seen her sell her story. but honestly if she did i dont blame her. her parents spent over one million dollars aiding her defense, they spent all their retirement, etc....i would wnat ot pay my parents back.... plus she has a notorous name now, which will mkae getting a job much harder.
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@Pink Champagne: She didn't really confess, she said and wrote a confused jumble of trying to piece together what she said she remembered with what police were telling her Sollecito said. What the police were telling her that he said they just made up to try and get her to admit a crime.
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I'm Canadian and I definitely think she's guilty.
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