I've been reading that the Supreme Court is expected to make a decision re: same-sex marriage by the end of the month, but it could possibly happen as early as today.
Anyone else anxiously awaiting their ruling? Do you think they'll rule in favor of same-sex marriage? I have a feeling they will.
GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts
I'm curious to see the decision, though I haven't been following in detail. I think they will vote in favor of same sex marriage!
grapefruit / 4361 posts
I'm looking forward to it because I think they'll rule in favor, but I'm actually more "anxious" about the subsidized healthcare ruling.... I feel like that could easily go either way!!
admin / wonderful grape / 20724 posts
@lawbee11: I've been obsessively following Fantasy SCOTUS to see how their predictions are trending!
eggplant / 11408 posts
I'm waiting on these two rulings that are left, and I'm nervous. I am more fearful of the reaction that the losing side is going to have than the actual ruling itself.
@lawbee11: I heard a court watcher reporter talk about CJ Roberts' questioning if gay marriage bans could be viewed as sex discrimination. The reporter said that based on his previous rulings, she thought he would rule in favor of gay marriage on this basis. I found that a really interesting and compelling idea, one that I hadn't thought of before. I am no lawyer, but I think that might still leave room for religious exemptions, which is what I'm mostly interested in. Had you heard this? Thoughts?
eggplant / 11408 posts
@DesertDreams88: yeaaaaah, that could very quickly be a hot mess. If they rule against, then opponents are going to claim "victory," but really, no one wins there.
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
@mrbee: Ha, that's funny! Never heard of Fantasy SCOTUS but going to check it out.
@LovelyPlum: I remember reading about Roberts's questioning after oral arguments. I hadn't thought of it as sex discrimination either but the argument makes sense. I'm curious to see which side Roberts will fall on, though I think Kennedy will most likely rule for same-sex marriage so Roberts's vote wouldn't be the deciding vote (I would love if it were a 6-3 decision, though!).
eggplant / 11408 posts
@lawbee11: I thought it made sense, too. I will be super curious to see who writes the opinion(s).
GOLD / wonderful olive / 19030 posts
I'm so excited for the ruling, honestly I will be so disappointed if it doesn't pass, it will be a step back for equal rights for sure.
grapefruit / 4361 posts
@lovelyplum: exactly... Crazy that four small words could endanger the possibility of health insurance for 6+ million people. And the health insurance industry has already been through so much turmoil.
Noe: I'm not downplaying the significance of the gay marriage ruling, just a lot more confident about that one! The hodgepodge of marital laws across the country is ridiculous and backwards.
eggplant / 11408 posts
@DesertDreams88: right. I'm not claiming that Obama care is perfect, awesome, or ideal. I am saying, though, that it is better than nothing, and certainly better than suddenly yanking insurance subsidies away from 6 million people. I just can't even imagine the chaos.
And I'm not downplaying either ruling. The next week is going to be craaaazy, regardless. Things are about to get real on both fronts.
pomelo / 5257 posts
YES, I need to knooooow! Haha, I'm hopeful. I will be pretty disappointed if they don't rule in favor.
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
@LovelyPlum: I'm so curious as to who will write the opinion. This statistics page is pretty interesting: http://www.scotusblog.com/statistics/
@DesertDreams88: @LovelyPlum: I'm also really interested in what the outcome of the Burwell case will be. Definitely not as optimistic about that one.
eggplant / 11716 posts
yes, I read pretty obsessively about the SCOTUS arguments about both the equal rights issue and the health care issue.
pomelo / 5093 posts
Is it really going to be in the next week? I haven't been following that closely. I'm so stressed out about the marriage decision! Could this really be it???
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
@sarac: Yep! They're done issuing opinions for the day. Nothing on ACA or same-sex marriage was issued yet..boo! Next chance would be this Thursday. I believe next Monday is the last day they'll be issuing opinions. So we should know by either Thursday or a week from today.
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
@DesertDreams88: @LovelyPlum: @Anagram: Subsidies are available. Opinion just released. Vote was 6-3. (AKA--victory for Obamacare.)
pomelo / 5298 posts
bumpity bump bump. SCOTUS in action this morning 
I believe the ACA opinion is now out.
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
@MamaG: Yes, opinion here: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-114_qol1.pdf
pomegranate / 3779 posts
Very happy with this decision. My heart would have broken to think of all the people who would have lost their healthcare (though it certainly would have been entertaining to watch Republicans deal with the backlash from so many of their constituents.)
eggplant / 11824 posts
Oh good, huge sigh of relief. I was really, really worried about Burwell v. King.
clementine / 806 posts
So happy about Burwell!
@lawbee11: I was checking out the statistics page this morning. I doubt it will happen, but I will freak out (in a good way) if RBG writes the majority opinion for marriage...she has the best comments!
eggplant / 11408 posts
@lawbee11: don't know where my other response went, but thanks So glad it was upheld!
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
@MrsLonghorn: That would totally be the cherry on top for me! I follow SCOTUSblog and they all have their money on Roberts writing the opinion. Maybe even if that's the case RBG will write a concurrence.
eggplant / 11408 posts
I just saw that SCOTUS added a session for tomorrow to release decisions. I wonder if that means the same sex marriage case will come down then?
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
@LovelyPlum: I think they added it because they still have so many opinions to release (5) and not specifically because they're planning to release the same-sex marriage opinion tomorrow (though I hope they do).
eggplant / 11408 posts
@lawbee11: that makes sense. I also saw that they have another one on Monday, too. So who knows?
Btw, have you read the dissent yet? You should. The news is focused on his use of the term SCOTUScare, but I rather liked his use of the phrases "jiggery-pokery" and "pure applesauce" better 
pomelo / 5298 posts
@LovelyPlum: I did read the dissent. I admit I've not read an opinion before, but I was entertained nonetheless.
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
@LovelyPlum: Yes! Very entertaining. I also read that it's the first time "SCOTUS" has been used in one of their opinions.
pomelo / 5093 posts
Ugh, now I'm on pins and needles waiting for the marriage decision. Will it be tomorrow, or could it still be next week?
clementine / 806 posts
gah....i'm dying over here. I'm sure they wont announce SSM until Monday, but I'm hopeful.... 4 boxes today!
GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts
Holding: Fourteenth Amendment requires a state to license a marriage between two people of the same sex. And to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when a marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out of state. 5-4 decision.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ETA: Opinion here if anyone is interested: http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf
clementine / 806 posts
eta: I find it hilarious that the 4 dissenters each had to write their own dissent and couldn't share one. It's "pure applesauce!" 
kiwi / 585 posts
Yay!!!!! I'm sure my state will continue to fight it, but I want to so badly skip out on work and go down to the court house to support the people getting married!!
wonderful pea / 17279 posts
That's awesome! Now, same sex couples can just as easily get divorced just like opposite sex couples.
SCOTUS has been on a roll with these decisions.
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