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@mrbee: I saw that too..

I wonder how long this is going to go on.. I read that they haven't said how many episodes it will be since they are only 2 weeks ahead and can't predict what they will find.

@T-Mom: I was surprised to see the response to the podcast's popularity mentioned in it as it's recorded a couple weeks in advance versus fully recorded ahead of time. I'm tempted to donate since I already do for Chicago Public Radio. Serial's really brought me back into listening to podcasts in general. I forgot that I can listen to them on my phone. Huge bonus for commuting.

@cascademom: I'm totally donating! I want a second season!

@lawbee11: great interview, thanks for sharing!

So glad I found this thread! SO OBSESSED with Serial!

It's absolutely fascinating. I've listened to each episode at least twice! Have you guys visited the website?

Charts for people obsessed with Serial: http://www.thebolditalic.com/articles/6330-charts-for-people-obsessed-with-serial

I'm all caught up! Hooray! I think that Adnan probably is involved somehow, unless Jay completely set him up. But regardless of whether he is actually guilty, I don't think he should have been convicted based on the evidence presented in his trial. I wonder if his outcome would have been different with another attorney.

@Pancakes: I agree! It's stra he was convicted with that evidence. I'm actually thinking that he's innocent, but I can be pretty naive about things like this. ALSO: How sketchy is Jay?! I think he's covering for someone else.

@greenebee: Jay is so damn sketchy. I also think Jenn sketchy.

I'm still really torn on what I think. I was reading the court docs a couple of days ago (I am such a nerd!) and Jay went into a lot of detail about things Adnan said to him after the murder. If Adnan is completely innocent then Jay is a fantastic liar.

@lawbee11: I feel like Jenn has to be involved so maybe her? I havent seen any evidence so far to make me believe Adnan was involved. I also think it's crazy that Jay walked by blaming Adnan even though there were all the inconsistencies!

@lawbee11: true damn. Hmm I'm stumped then.

So glad to see this thread! DH and I caught up this weekend. Like most people, I'm conflicted about Adnan, and think Jay is SUPER sketch. His story seems too detailed (and changes too often). Don't experts say that people over embellish when they're lying?

Also, Adnan's ability to forget certain parts of the day is just strange. I know it was weeks later that he was asked to recall, but you'd think that a phone call from the police would definitely make that day stand out in your memory.

@lawbee11: have they said yet where Hae's car was found?

Also this is kind of random, but it just seems crazy to me that so many people were called that afternoon. Even if I had had my own cellphone in '99, I can't imagine calling that many different people. Strange.

@Pancakes: Yes. I believe it was initially at a park-n-ride type place but then was later moved to an area behind some houses. I'm not sure if it was moved the same day of the murder or later...

@lawbee11: gah! Just read it (thank you for giving me something to do with my insomnia!). It is totally plausible and convincing me further that Adnan didn't do it!

@lawbee11: okay, I read this on the way back from my parents' house last night. Definitely some plausible ideas! Soo, theories about Jay's motive?

@Pancakes: @lawbee11: if Adnan is innocent I am also really struggling with Jay's motive. Like lawbee11 said, I've also vaguely heard about cheating scenarios, but just can't quite wrap my head around murder for that. Also, how weird is it that Jay didn't call Stephanie on her birthday until something like after 11pm? Especially if he supposedly went to buy her a gift after Adnan encouraged him, and he was so in love with her?

I am going to be so bummed if there is no resolution! I don't think Adnan is guilty but I feel like he has to know more than he's letting on.

Just to bring up a point I don't think has been mentioned here: the whole "Cathy" phone call is not valid to me. If I was 17 and high out of my mind, I'd be nervous to talk to the cops regardless of what they wanted. Also, he and Hae were not supposed to be dating according to their families. I know they were broken up at this point but I don't see him saying "what am I supposed to say?" as an incriminating thing.

I cannot stop obsessing over Serial! Excited for this week's episode. I have no idea if Adnan is guilty or not though. What is the real motive? Jay was obviously involved since he knew where her car was but the evidence against Adnan is really weak. This case is so intriguing yet frustrating.

We just finished Ep 9. So excited to go read Reddit and other articles out there. I'd been avoiding everything for fear of spoilers.

My feeling is that Adnan and Jay were both involved in Hae's murder. I have no idea which one actually did it - probably Jay? I think, though, that Jay's testimony is completely fabricated in order to line up with the cell records because the police figured the only way to convict anyone was with the records because it was as close to "proof" as they were going to get. They probably brought Jay in for interviews, threatened him based on his drug connections and he basicaly expressed that he'd tape whatever they needed him to. Adnan had more "motive" being Hae's ex-boyfriend so it was easier to pin it on him. I don't know what Jay and Adnan were up to that day (other than a lot of drugs) but I think things got out of hand and one of th ended up killing her. I doubt it was planned. I don't think she was killed at Best Buy and it seems crazy that she'd be killed at the library! I don't think Adnan went to track at all that night and instead went somewhere with Hae (and Jay?). Then she ended up being killed later in the evening. Maybe right before they went to Kathy's? I can't remember the cell phone calls, though, so maybe that doesn't make sense. One thing I can't figure out though is if Adnan was involved in the least, why didn't he say "yeah I knew this happened, but Jay actually did it" and then reach his own agreement with police? Jay was the one into drugs while Adnan appeared to be this upstanding citizen, so wouldn't that have been believable. It just seems like his lawyer should have tried harder to pin it on Jay to at least cast doubt over the prosecutor's case! (Perhaps I watched too much How to Get Away With Mirder this fall!). I am most interested to hear what the Innocence Project makes of the case and whether any of the lab results could be recovered or even re-run?

Did anyone already listen?? I listened on my commute into work.