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@ambular1025: Thanks. Weirdly enough, I'm not that upset. I like this whole going to the doctor to figure things out thing!

@chibee: I haven't wanted to quit, 'cause I like seeing the completed charts, but I've stopped worrying about waking up at the proper time etc.

@evenstar982: Thanks for the idea!

How long have you been charting? Almost nine months.

TTC Cycle: Lucky number 7!

Where are you from? Cali!! Specifically northern California.

Any kids already? Nope, two puppy dogs. AKA the loves of my life.

Burning charting question: Not right now!! But I love that I can ask you ladies all the time

@spaniellove: Yay! I just got the printed copy. Yeah, it says 31% normal forms. His pH also showed 8.0, with a normal range 7.2-8.0. Okay it also says time of motility 60 minutes? What's that mean?

I won't play in the roll call but I AM still stalking all of your charts! I everyone on this thread. I'm so bitter about every AF that arrived this week. Bah humbug. @Grace I'm glad you started getting tests run!

@ChuckNorris: DH said the bill to the insurance company was $875 for B/W and SA but he didn't know how much it was for just SA. Our insurance doesn't cover infertility, but they paid for it, possibly because they cover labwork?

@ChuckNorris: Okay, I feel like I remember reading $100 somewhere, plus they always jack up the bill for insurance so it probably is under a couple hundred for the SA!

@spaniellove: Phewwwwwww, my heart rate has calmed down. I know this is going to be an expensive process, but I just didn't realize we'd be down almost $1000 in just early work-up stuff. My biopsy came back as costing $150 (which is so cheap! I'm so lucky to work where I work!) so that plus $875, I was like daaang! Haha. The things we do to make a baby, right??

@spaniellove: Ohhh myyy goodness. Holy crap! Well, if it's any consolation, I can't do any IVF or IUI through my RE (he's technically retired and technically doesn't do IF anymore), but because he's at my work, they have been able to bill it as a "specialist consultation" and have covered all our visits with him. I don't have to pay a copay because it's a benefit of working there - they see employees for free. SO, even though we are getting a lot for cheap/free, the down side to all of this... If no go with fertility meds, there are no true fertility clinics* in northern California. The closest place is 3 hours away... We would probably end up moving if it came to IVF.

*There are a couple of gynecologists offices that will do IUI for couples that have been trying for 2+ years. It's very hard to get in with them and if I went with them, everything would be out of pocket for some reason. I'm torn because they don't do much fertility stuff, so I feel like they wouldn't be as up to date with meds/procedures/strategies, cuz they don't do it very often, you know? If I'm gonna spend thousands, I would want the latest information and have it done by someone who does it all the time, I think... The joys of living in a rural area.

Geez, sorry this is so long.

@Grace: Ah, thanks so much! I cannot begin to tell you how much this has helped me mentally. I've heard the 4% thing before too... I will have to ask my RE about that. If it's really 4%, than I feel really good. But if it's really 30%, I'm a little concerned about his being 31%. Haha. Either way, like you said, I feel much better having that off the table. Thanks (on behalf of my DH, who I'm not sure would be happy I'm sharing some down and dirty details on his man juice on the internet! hehe)

@Grace: @ChuckNorris: I think 4% is a criteria called Kruger or strict, and the 30% is WHO.

@ChuckNorris: Oooomygod, my cousins lived in Redding and my grandparents used to take me to visit them a couple times a year. The drive was so long and boring that I learned to read watching the road signs! Has it gotten any more modernized? I was surprised to see it on TV during the Olympics with Ryan Hall and a soccer player being from there.

Here's the SART database: http://www.sart.org/find_frm.html

DH's urologist requested strict criteria but the lab didn't do it. I think it's a lot more tedious to do? If you take a look around you'll see both numbers used, and 31% is most likely not a problem. Not normal is our 10% motility, which you can see is really really far off from normal. The lab pointed out that they weren't just not moving, they were dead.

@chibee: Another Korean Jersey girl! North or South?

@chibee: Yes, I'm near Cherry Hill! Don't know if you're familiar at all with that area.

@ambular1025: is it?? I was definitely expecting a drop today, but I am still 1-3 days away from AF so I'm cautiously keeping my expectations low. Hope I don't start spotting today.. I started spotting at around 12 dpo last cycle..

@Grace: thank you! made it through 12 dpo with no spotting! BUT i realized something, through stalking my two charts. Last cycle, I wasn't temping but kept the chart, and used OPKs. I did a manual override and said I ovulated on the first day of the negative OPK after 2 days of positive, just because I figured you O after an LH surge. But this cycle, FF put my real O day on the first day of the 2 positive OPKs I got, so if that's true, my last cycle i had 14 days in the LP. WHICH means, I actually started spotting at 14 dpo, not 12 dpo. Sorry for the rambling, but this just means i have 2 more days to go!!! ugh!

@spaniellove: The drive is the same - Hell!!!! How funny that you have been here, it's so small when I go places I often just say we are from Sacramento. Lol. I've gotten to the point where I get creative while driving... It's awful!!!! lol. Thank you for sharing that site, I checked it out... I really want to move to Novato when I am done with school. Like, a LOT. I didn't know there were fertility clinics over there, so now that is definitely back on the table if it comes to that! I'm so sorry about the lab =/ That had to have been tough to hear.

@Grace: I see him next on Thursday (two more days! I can't wait!). I'm trying to convince DH to come since my RE keeps saying to bring him in, but DH is worried that he will feel weird when the guy is all up in my vag doing the swab... Which I think I can understand, but what if we end up needed to do IUI? I will be needing to do lots of pelvic exams/transvaginal ultrasounds I'm sure!! lol

Thank you both for all your help with figuring out his SA... My RE is always happy at how I come to the appointment armed with knowledge and I have you guys to thank for that

@Grace: That's a good idea. Maybe I'll tell him to do that...

@alison206: I'm going with implantation bleeding!!!

@alison206: Oh dear. That sounds like something I would do.

@grace @jojogirl: I don't have anymore bleeding so my guess is ovulation maybe. I am trying to talk myself down from thinking implantation. I have been randomly taking a temp here or there and they've higher like typical post o temps so...