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@ladybee: @marionberry: I assume it couldn't be implantation because I've had LP spotting before and it wasn't implantation! Plus...despite all the signs and great charts it just never happened.

@marionberry: I hope your RE is open to looking beyond the standard battery of cd3/progesterone/HSG/ultrasound. You always have such great charts! So don't be afraid to ask for more if you find you're not getting enough answers.

@marionberry: Ha! That's my charts too. Beautiful, but negative. Every time. Big rotten tease.

@spaniellove: I'm going to secretly hope it's implantation cramps, but I'm going to say that it's probably rough sex. If you are anything like me it'a easier to have low expectations than deal with disapointment.

AFM, my temp went down a little today but sill high in comparision. If I get a higher temp tomorrow FF will give me crosshairs.

@spaniellove: once again you have an amazing looking chart!

@spaniellove: getting sick really does screw things up. I hated that it really messed with my chart this month. Regardless, your chart still looks great. I am SUPER excited for my RE appointment, I guess because I really have no idea what's wrong with us and I should be able to find answers there, but I'm also kind of scared given that when I emailed them, she said it could be a variety of things included quality of my eggs (which brings up the scare of what if my eggs are bad or don't work) but I'm trying not to think of that. I can see where it would be different for you, knowing that you're headed straight to IVF. My stepmom had IVF and it worked the first shot. I wish the same for you!

OMG on DH's and their weird process through all of this...it's funny that your DH was reading about home births. Funny especially because an IVF patient is never going to be allowed to home birth! They try so hard to be a part of this process since they don't go through it as much physically. My DH asks me every day if my temp is good or bad and I'm always like, I don't know! He's like a broken record, thinking maybe I'm smarter today than I was yesterday and have a different answer. I feel bad when I get annoyed with him about it.

@marionberry: I'm sorry AF showed

@marionberry: I'm sorry to see that drop. Re: egg quality, see my post on the infertility thread. Speak of the devil. I can't believe it.

Well my temp dropped, FF took my CH away, and my due date would have been 15 days away. Friends on FB who were due at the same time are posting pictures of their babies. I feel like giving up. I wish I could get in with a RE sooner, even though I know Jan 3 is really quick and will be here before I know it. DH keeps saying this wasn't meant to be easy for us but I'm starting to feel a little bitter. I wish 2013 would hurry up!

@ladybee: That must feel like such a letdown at what is already a difficult time. Is there any way you can hide those friends who you know will have baby pictures? I'm not even in your shoes and right now I find the newborn/labor threads painful at times.

The waiting for the RE is tough, even more so when you realize that every appointment and test is going to be like that...you'll get to one appointment, then realize you won't get in again for a test for weeks, then they won't schedule another consult for another month. It gets to be so much waiting and finding a way to pass the time really helps!

@marionberry: When is your appointment?

@marionberry: Wishing you lots of luck! Hope you have a productive appointment!

@Grace: This is so exciting - and that is a GREAT line!

@spaniellove: Thanks!!

@futuremama: Thanks! That's exactly what I thought too, and that's how I was going to tell DH, but I took one step out of the bathroom and burst into tears (happy ones), so that plan flew out the window.

@Grace: I already totally freaked out on your separate thread, but this makes me so happy!! And look at how dark that line is!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Grace: Haha, no on purpose, that's how it looks for me too. Once a word gets longer than the length of the "post" box, I guess that's what happens. Try!

@April_Showers: Thanks!

@ladybee: Thanks! And you know the saying - it never rains but pours, so I fully expect the drought to be OVER!

@ladybee: I'm going to take a guess and say it's possible but not very clear...if you look at anovulatory+PCOS charts on FF you'll see that every once in a while there are charts with some kind of rise that isn't clear enough to be O. I have no idea why. So maybe you could space out DTD to every 3rd day until you're absolutely sure you've O'ed?

Hey ladies! I hope to join you! We are going to start ttc in July, and I already chart my periods, but want to start charting bbt as well, as it appears I'm not ovulating. I keep getting negative opks and have no cm ever. Hopefully, by adding bbt we can have six solid months to see if I ovulate or not!

@ladybee: It *is* possible, but don't stop DTD until you are for sure for sure! Since your CH have come and gone a few times, I'd maybe wait till they stay a while...just because wouldn't you be so mad if you stopped and then O'ed later? still, you could do it every 3 days and be fine. This IS so hard. Looking at your previous charts, I was wondering if you've been marking all of your OPKs? I was thinking that the monitor didn't work for you b/c of the PCOS, but in a lot of your cycles you had a +OPK correspond with ovulation. So having the two together on your chart might give you some reassurance.

@dc yoga bee: Hey there! I'm sorry to hear you think you're not ovulating. Charting your bbt sounds like a good idea, since no CM and negative opks could mean you're not ovulating...or it could mean you just don't have fertile CM and you're one of those people who can't use OPKs! How long have you been off BC?

As long as I get AF tomorrow I think it'll be my last day of temping. Starting next cycle I'll be monitored and I think it might drive me crazy to temp during the 2WW after an IUI and IVF. But I'd love to stick around and support the charters!