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@ladybee: nope, haven't been on bc in years. Just worried not ovulating!
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@spaniellove: I haven't been using OPKs consistently this cycle and I was getting frustrated by them so I gave up. DH and I made a pact that we'd DTD EOD until the end of December or until AF showed. We both are so afraid to miss it.
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@Grace: just had to come back here to say holy moly congrats!!!!!! I'm so happy for you!!!!!!
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@Grace: OMG!!! That is so amazing! I am so happy for you! See you are proof that things can certainly turn around. I hope you're the start to much turning around for the rest of us!
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@ladybee: My gut is saying you did O, but your charts have been evil lately, so I'm not sure. Do you get any post-O symptoms, that you could use to confirm?
@sslm: Thanks!
@marionberry: Thanks! Definitely lots of turning around!
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@grace: no symptoms except I was in the loving mood but right now I feel ovulation like. My skin has broke out horribly in the last 48 hours, I'm gassy *tmi*, I'm tired and bloated. Who knows!
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@ladybee: Well, if you can keep it up a few more days, you'll probably know for sure.
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can i ask a question? First, here is my chart for reference: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3d06b9
I took my temp twice back to back this morning - first was 97.58 and second was 97.60 - i kept the 97.60 because it gave me CH that way and it was only 0.02 degrees off. Do you think this was a mistake and I actually haven't o'd like FF says if I keep my first temp? I have had sore nipples and heaviness in my boobs since 2 days ago so I was pretty sure I o'd but then the confusion this morning!! Am I "forcing" the o?
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@chibee: No, I bet you're ok. 0.02 is nothing - I'm actually really surprised that crosshairs only appear for one of them. I guess they have to draw the line somewhere.
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@chibee: I agree, I think you O'd on CD36. It looks like you tried to (ie, had an LH surge) on CD34, but it didn't take. (And technically you only have to note a temp to .1, no need for the extra digit). One thing you might want to look into is a 7dpo progesterone check. I was told that temps that take a few days to rise (like this chart, and your last month show) could be a sign of low progesterone. Good luck! This TTC thing is confusing for all of us
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@grace: I think our job is done and it is what it is. We will probably DTD one more time and then take a break. The only thing is I really wanted to know by Christmas if I was KU or not so I could tell my parents in person. I really hope I am and that I don't start my period on my due date (28th). That would call for two bottles of wine.
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@ladybee: I kinda hate those months where if it works then you get to tell people at a holiday. I always had grand plans of how to tell and then I'd be disapointed. Too much pressure!!! Fingers super crossed. I mean even with PCOS, it happened once for you - it can happen again!
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@grace: i hope so! I've been waiting for so long to O this cycle I just need to see that CH on my chart haha
@mrs.someone: hm i have never thought about this! Do you think my gyno would be able to do something like that for me? If not this cycle maybe next one? Is it done through a blood test?
@ladybee: I had the vision of telling family at christmas too, if my cycle wasn't going to be a 50 day one, and I got a BFP this cycle, I should have been around 7 weeks at christmas - a great time but nope. It's too much pressure anyway - the disappointment of a BFN before Christmas would have ruined it for me!
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@chibee: Yep, your gyno should be able to order the blood test!
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@grace: @chibee: I know thinking of holiday announcements always set me up for disappointment. I feel like the last 5 cycles since they were so inconsistent that I really didn't time well. I feel like this time with our EOD cycle we timed well so hopefully it works! If not, I will be starting my period on my due date. I hate to think God would be that cruel.
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This may be a dumb question, but today is my second day of charting. Do you just chart a couple of months, and see a pattern, and then typically you'll O on a certain date based on past charts? I get absolutely NO cm, probably due to the allergy meds I have to take every day. I've tried taking Mucinex throughout my cycle last month, and it didn't increase my cm by a drop. So, I can't really go by the cm. I've also never had a positive opk, hence I'm trying to start taking my bbt daily.
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@dcyogabee: It really depends on the person. In a perfect world, yes, but since everyone is different it depends. I do not O on the same day each month, and sometimes not at all and have really inconsistent cycles so I have to temp every month if I want information.
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@ladybee: oh ok. So, do you just bd around that week?
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@dc yoga bee: Soooort of. If your cycles are extremely regular in length and ovulation date you can predict future cycles using past cycles, but you still need to continue to chart because it can still change at any time. And if they're irregular in any way, it's just hard to tell. Even though my cycles are more or less regular, I still have a window between CD11 and 14.
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@spaniellove: Ah. Thanks! I've been having a 28 day cycle with only one 31 day cycle like clockwork over the years! And that longer cycle came when I was studying for the bar! We're going to ttc in July (eep!), so hopefully this will give me some insight as to what's going on in my body!
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Ok y'all. I need help (I think) and everyone here always knows whats going on and what to do!
I stopped BCP about a month and a half ago. I started charting on the first day of my withdrawal bleeding. I'm pretty sure I ovulated on day 16--I had 2 positive OPKs leading up to it, HOWEVER, during that same time period, I came down with the stomach flu and had a fever, so my temp for that day (99.7) was useless. ALSO, I couldn't chart CM as I had a colposcopy a few days prior, so things were...off.
But, even with what I thought was a sign of my ovulation, my temps never stayed high, and have really shown no pattern at all...and on top of it, I still haven't gotten my period (I thought it was coming with the temp drop at day 33, but it's just been steadily rising since then...). Help?!
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@ms.janedoe: I agree, your chart is a bit confusing. I don't think you O'd on CD16 since your temps didn't really go up after that. Its possible you were about to, but your flu threw it off. I think you may have O'd on CD36, since you had a jump and the temps have been going up from there. But unfortunately, I think you need a few more days of it going up to really determine that.
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@Mrs.Someone: Thanks!!! Oh man, I didn't even think about a possible delayed O from being sick (and you'd think after reading TCOYF way too many times, I'd remember that!)...good call! I guess I'll be watching my temps (VERY) closely the next few days...
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@ms.janedoe: I would agree with mrs.someone. I think you just ovulated a few days ago....so give it a week and then test. Sickness can definitely delay ovulation!
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@Mrs.Someone: @marionberry: Thanks again!!! I just pulled my suuuuper high temp outlier (from when I was juuuust getting over the throws of the flu) and deleted the 2 positive OPKs aaand...crosshairs...riiiiiight at Day 36... I think I have some more studying to do with TCOYF...
I guess we'll just have to see what happens!
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What the hell is going on with my chart? I'm so at a loss for what is going on. What do you guys think? @grace, @marionberry, @spaniellove, @chibee and ANYONE else you wants to weigh in I need help
ETA: My Ovulation Chart
ETA again: If I put my Wednesday the 12th temp back to where it was when I woke up two hours late that makes me 9dpo today instead of 5dpo but I really didn't think an O date of CD 19 makes sense. Maybe it did. I don't know. I am losing my mind.
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@ladybee: Step away from the chart and put down the thermometer! Deep breaths. I think it was Spaniellove who said a few months ago that out temps are not going to make us ovulate and how we interpret the chart is not going to change anything. Having said all that, I'm sorry your chart is taking you to bananatown. Hugs. Now for the chart analysis. Here's how I see it: it doesn't matter if you are 5dpo or 9dpo. Your BD'd your face off and your job is done! The temps will probably become more clear before a BFP or AF happens. So the only concern I see, is that maybe you haven't O'd at all. If you put a crazy low temp in tommorow, does it take away all the crosshairs? Have you seen any good CM? I'm assuming the monitor is having a break this month, right? Do you still feel poat-Oish, like you were thinking a few days ago? And last but not least, you've had a two-day BD break, so would you guys feel up to DTD tonight? 'Cause then your covered if you O today or tommorow. Akkk- hugs again.
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@ladybee: I think I agree with FF, but not quite sure. One thing I did notice is that ALL your temps for this month are above your coverline for last month? Not sure what that means though... Have you been checking your CM?
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@ladybee: First of all, hugs! I'm going to tell you something you may not want to hear...despite the CH, I'm not so sure I'm seeing an ovulation pattern - yet. If your temps go up and stay up for several days then you know you've O'ed, but at this point I'd stop relying on where FF is putting those CH because it's getting confused.
The good news is, you're seeing the RE very soon right? Until then, what about getting a 7dpo progesterone test from your OB? That may be a much more reliable way to confirm O in your situation and gives you a more definitive answer than FF. Hang in there, I know this is stressful!
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@ladybee: i'm not an experienced charter at all, but I do think O date of 19 would be possible also, but like @grace said, either way you are covered anyway!
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http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ChillyBear
This cycle is looking way different than last month my pre-O temps are consistently low and zig-zagged is this unusual or a good thing.... I'm still waiting to O it taking a little longer than last month and I havent seen "a lot" of EWCM just a little bit here and there but it could be and effect of the previous nights BD.
PS: I hate that my office added FF to the Mature list and I cant access the site on my computer I can only see my chart on my phone.
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@Chillybear: Are you taking your temp at the same exact time every morning, with the same amount of sleep with consistent room temps?
I ended up manually adjusting my O date because (FINALLY!) AF is here and it didn't seem possible that my LP could suddenly be 16 days long. I remembered thinking it was strange that I never did see a distinctly positive OPK this cycle, and now it makes sense.
BTW, for anyone who is still reading and likes to troubleshoot - my last RE visit was really helpful in putting together some of the pieces with my charts/O/OPKs. I didn't know if it was a problem that I was Oing somewhat early in some of my cycles. I'd also noticed that the day or two after AF ended, I often got an almost positive OPK that made me think I was going to O very soon, but then it would fade again. My observations weren't wrong! I never told the RE about these, but the IVF protocol I'm on specifically addresses it because he'd already guessed that this was happening. So for the last few days before my trigger shot, the Ganirelix will keep my LH from surging to give the eggs more time to mature. The moral of the story is...your observations are important, and don't ignore your gut!
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@spaniellove: Thanks for the reply! and yes this month has been pretty consistant as far as bed/wake times have been concerned and only this past saturday did i not sleep in my own home (i was at mom and dad's) This is only my 2nd cycle of BCP and i knew there was a chance that things would be a bit funky. I'm hoping to have 2 full months of charting under my belt before going to to my annual exam next month.
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@Chillybear: If you've been consistent, then don't worry too much! It actually goes back and forth between basically the same max and min temps so FF will still have a reliable temp and pattern to use for a coverline. I've seen charts where it would look rocky but there was an actual pattern to it so it's kind of cool!
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@ladybee: I think this is why your doctor said to stop charting, lol. At this point, you've done your part, and if you keep up BD'ing EOD, no matter when you O you're set. If you don't O, then you're only weeks away from an answer with an RE. Try not to let your CH bother you in the meantime (although I know it's easier said than done).
@spaniellove: On the monitor, sometimes I get high's for a lot of days before I get a peak (with the first one I take being pretty dark but then leveling out over time to go back to dark) and I wonder if that's not a similar situation as yours, where the LH surges early, but not enough to ovulate. I may bring this up with my RE depending on how everything with my cycle and everything else goes. We have an ultrasound on the 24th too which should help us monitor what's happening with the follicles. -
Hi Ladies,
Just wondering if this looks like a triphasic chart? and does that mean I have a better chance of a BFP when I test in a few days? THANKS!
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@Mrs Bicycle: I wouldn't call it triphasic necessarily but it looks like a really good chart to me!
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@Marionberry Thanks for looking at it! I'm getting antsy waiting to test...looking for all other signs of pregnancy besides an actual Positive pregnancy test! Haha
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@Mrs Bicycle: Is there a message from FF under your chart telling you it may be triphasic? At some point on/after 10dpo a message might appear telling you this!
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@spaniellove No it doesn't say anything...but now I'll be on the look out! Thanks!
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