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  1. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @marionberry: What time do your results from this morning come back?

  2. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @JoJoGirl: I wrote you on the other board, but they're in. Went from 39 to 85.5 so I'm good to go! No more betas and now onto an u/s on the 28th!

  3. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @marionberry: WOOHOOOOO!!!!

  4. Mrs.Someone

    pomelo / 5228 posts

    @marionberry: Yay, glad its looking good! Now you really should stop temping I've heard that ups and downs are normal, but nerve wracking! Maybe buy some cheapie HPTs off of Amazon in case you're ever nervous about it?

  5. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @Mrs.Someone: I will. Now that I have some peace of mind I can be done.

  6. Mrs.Someone

    pomelo / 5228 posts

    @marionberry: Yay! Glad to hear you're feeling good about it I guess its a curse of those of us who have been trying so long, its hard to believe its real.

  7. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @Mrs.Someone: Exactly! Since it took SO long I am so much more afraid of losing it.

  8. sweetooth

    nectarine / 2705 posts

    @marionberry: So glad to hear the number continues to rise! Here's to a healthy, sticky baby

  9. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @sweetooth: Thank you! Wishing the same good luck for you and everyone else!!

  10. Shutterbug

    grapefruit / 4703 posts

    @marionberry: woohoo yeah!! Now stop temping lol

  11. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @ladybee: @shutterbug: Great charts ladies! Looking good!

  12. ladybee

    grapefruit / 4079 posts

    FF and I are not friends. She canged my O date on me. I think she is wrong, or at least I hope she is because we stopped BDing after my first CH and my O signs went away. What do you guys think? DH and I have agreed next month we are not using OPKs, monitors, or charting. We're just going to do it the good ol' fashion way (with fermara lol).

    Thoughts?

    ETA: If I discard CD 19 temps it moves my CH back.

    My Ovulation Chart

  13. Happygal

    pomelo / 5000 posts

    @Ladybee: I'm not sure, and will let the more experienced charters chime in on this one. I do want to sympathize though b/c I know how frustrating the moving O dates can be! FF and I definitely have a love/hate relationship.

    What made you decide to stop with all the OPKS, charting, etc? I'm curious b/c I'm thinking of scaling back.....now that I know that I do ovulate and I have a range for when that happens, I think it might be good for happiness to scale down. I might start with cutting out temping during the TWW.

  14. Grace

    cantaloupe / 6730 posts

    @ladybee: Nah, I don't think you O'd later. One anomolous temp shouldn't change anything. I'm surprised that the program did that to you, actually. Did you try putting in your O signs? Sometimes if I add the EWCM it puts the CH in the right spot.

  15. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @ladybee: It's really hard to tell. I think it's most likely the first rise, because your second doesn't hit your lowest temps, but there is a slight possibility it could be the second. It's stupid your RE told you not to use OPKs because they'd give you a lot of confidence either way right now. I think a month of normal, regular sex could be great for you guys. I'm too anal to have ever followed through with that but I totally recommend it for peace of mind. I'm crossing my fingers because your chart still looks really good.

    @happygal: I watched a lot of charts in the 10 cycles it took me. What I might advise it to do just what you recommended. Chart to ensure you ovulated and then stop for the TWW. Some people have regular cycles and then randomly they get a really long one and if that happened and you weren't charting altogether you'd probably think you were pregnant and be totally confused. It's certainly up to you, but that's what I'd recommend as a starting point.

  16. ladybee

    grapefruit / 4079 posts

    @happygal: my RE said that all it is doing is stressing me out and he gave us a sex schedule of sorts for the medication he put me on. I can't relax and obsess easily so it makes me think it might be a good idea to stop.

    @grace @marionberry: thanks for chiming in. I am going crazy with all of this. It is what it is and there's no going back and changing it. I'm left to wait it out.

  17. Turd Ferguson

    pomegranate / 3160 posts

    Ugh, so confuuuused. I'm on CD17 (2nd cycle after BCP) and was expecting to see O sometime between CD13-CD15. I got my darkest OPK on CD13 (not sure I'd say it was 100% positive, but they were lighter before and lighter after, so I'm thinking I just missed the surge?), and kiiiind of saw some EWCM on CD14 and CD15, but haven't seen any kind of drastic temp drop/rise.

    I did the chart overlay with my last cycle, and it's matching up, but the problem is, last cycle I thought O got delayed due to flu/fever... Any chance that I'm just experiencing a (suuuuper) slow rise and a few more days might get me crosshairs? Maybe?

    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3dc29d

  18. Mrs.Someone

    pomelo / 5228 posts

    @ladybee: I agree with everyone else, I think you O'd on CD14. Maybe try putting in a fake high-ish temp for tomorrow and see what happens?

    @ms.janedoe: Sorry, but I don't think you've O'd yet It looks to me that you were gearing up, then for some reason it didn't happen. Also, your overall temp shift last month isn't much of a difference, maybe ask your doc to check your progesterone and thyroid? Sorry you're frustrated with all this!

  19. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @ms.janedoe: Given that none of your opks were definitive you may have not ovulated yet. Or sometimes the body tries to ovulate and fails, so without enough LH you didn't get a positive OPK and hence didn't see confirmed ovulation. Since things are matching up there is definitely a chance you won't o for awhile this cycle either. Just try to be patient and continue to use opks and temp until you get something definitive.

  20. spaniellove

    honeydew / 7916 posts

    @ladybee: Don't get thrown off by FF, I think you O'ed on CD14 and the CH are just moving because of some slightly rocky post-O temps. If you look at the overall pattern, your temps have obviously jumped! Just two outliers that aren't even close to your temps before CD14. I wonder if the reason it's moving CH (with dotted lines) is it has fewer signs to work with (like OPKs and EWCM) so it just has less confidence. Honestly your chart looks great!

  21. Happygal

    pomelo / 5000 posts

    @SpanielLove: Anytime someone has a question, I know I'll see you pop up with a good answer for them and support. We're lucky to have you here on the boards! I bet you could start your own little fertility chart consulting business : )

  22. ladybee

    grapefruit / 4079 posts

    @spaniellove: thank you. when FF changed my O date this morning I thought, "I gotta get on HB and see what spaniellove and the others think of this." Your post made me feel so much better. When I look at my chart, I see a clear difference between before CD 14 and after. Either way, it doesn't matter now so I just need to have a few glasses of wine and relax.

  23. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @ladybee: Drink up now! I miss wine already lol.

  24. spaniellove

    honeydew / 7916 posts

    @Happygal: @ladybee: Aww thanks guys. I'm just a big nerd! Sorry I haven't kept up with the thread consistently!

  25. Chillybear

    pomegranate / 3032 posts

    I'm cross posting this from the Jan Poas boards - need some insight...

    this is my 3rd cycle temping

    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ChillyBear

    My temp shot up this morning, so assuming that if they stay up for the next couple days FF will say that i O'd on Wed the 16th. We DTD around 1:00 am on Wed (i never know how to input this into FF. tuesday PM or Wed AM?) do i push for another session tonight just to hedge our bets?

  26. Grace

    cantaloupe / 6730 posts

    @Chillybear: If you O'd then BD would make no difference. It would only make a difference if this spike is a fluke. Personally, if it requires "pushing", I wouldn't push it. TTC is hard enough without adding extra stress. If he's for it (in the "oh, you twisted my rubber arm" kind of way), then yes, I'd go for it. Hope that made sense - it's still early for me.

  27. Chillybear

    pomegranate / 3032 posts

    @Grace: We just dont "usually" DTD during the week that often esp on Wed and Thur since i work a 12 hour days. so while i dont think he'd opposed its just atypical. I just always see on the FF pregnancy monitor O-2, O-1, O, O+1 and i didnt know how much the O+1 mattered

  28. Grace

    cantaloupe / 6730 posts

    @Chillybear: I think they have it in case your O day isn't accurate. Apparently, it can be off.

  29. Happygal

    pomelo / 5000 posts

    @Grace: I'm with you. Chore sex is not good sex!
    @Chillybear: Yes, that 0+1 is just in case. All that information on FertilityFriend can do your head in! The symptom cloud, that number listing the likelihood you're pregnant....I think I'm not temping this TWW just to avoid reading all of FF's post-o stats.

  30. Sugar.Biscuit

    nectarine / 2063 posts

    Question ladies I recently starred temping, along with charting cm, and using opks. I have a FF account & just have to update my info. In the mean time I want to ask how big of a difference does it make in your temps if you are a light sleeper? I try to temp the same time every day around 6 a.m. but there's some days that I'm in bed wide awake for half hour before my alarm goes off. Will this effect my temps?

  31. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @Sugar.Biscuit: If you're up a half hour before your alarm, just take your temp then. A half hour doesn't affect the temps too much. I was a light sleeper too. I just noted any inability to sleep that night in my notes field.

  32. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    Ladies ... I have a question about CM. I mean, is there any better topic?!? I don't think I have a lot, and I feel like I have short arms, because I can't really seem to get a good feel down there. Are you reaching all the way up to your cervix to check CM? What position are you using to do this? During peak fertility, I can often tell by looking at my underwear, but other than that, I find it hard to tell.

  33. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @VEGMAMA: If I wasn't getting enough on my underwear, I would sometimes check internally...but I usually had enough on my underwear for the most part. If you're noticing you don't have much, I might recommend FertileCM. It increases CM. You can also take Mucinex which does the same thing.

  34. Happygal

    pomelo / 5000 posts

    @Vegmama: hi! It's me again! Replying to a lot of your threads today.

    I keep a little handheld mirror and check for CM. I know that sounds strange, but it's hard for me to detect it on white TP. Just one peek in the morning and I know what I'm dealing with. I only touch it around O time to see if it's stretching. TCOYF recommends checking post BM b/c it might push it forward. I've heard good things about the FerileCM like @Marionberry mentioned, and I took evening primrose oil for this cycle. It's recommended to drink a lot of water, and I've heard green tea (although I haven't read any studies) can help. The EPO seemed to help.

  35. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @happygal: @aprilshowers: You both have great looking charts this cycle!

  36. Happygal

    pomelo / 5000 posts

    @Marionberry: thanks for checking in! I feel a wee guilty b/c I wasn't going to temp this TWW. But I didn't want to get out of bed this morning, so it was a stalling technique.

  37. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @Happygal: It's ok. I was never able to stop temping and didn't stop for almost a week after my BFP. Good luck!!

  38. chibee

    pear / 1974 posts

    Hi charters! Got a quick question.. I'm not TTC at the moment but still charting - they moved my CH so late post-o - has this ever happened to you? After putting in today's temp, i went from being 13 dpo to 11 dpo, and they also moved up my coverline. What's the point so late in the cycle??? here's a link to my chart - before today, i had CH at CD26!

    http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3d06b9

  39. April_Showers

    cherry / 245 posts

    @VEGMAMA: I would make sure your drinking enough water first. I wasn't at the beginning, and even now, I can tell I need more based on the abundancy of my CM. For me the difference is visible within a few hours.

    @marionberry: Thanks! I am trying not to really look at it. My plan was just to temp to confirm O, but then they are high that my curiousity gets me every morning. But I am doing better on not focusing on the DPO and what everything "means".

  40. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @chibee: I agree with exactly where your crosshairs are placed now. Your cycles can be harder to tell about ovulation and FF does a bad job sometimes when it's not very obvious.

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