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These Christmas posts have me thinking ... Is it appropriate to send a list of guidelines for gifts? This might sound silly, but we are a vegan home, and I'm not sure our parents understand entirely. It's our baby's first Christmas.

My concern would be books or toys that aren't in line with our philosophies (she just got a book from grandpa about tacos, and it talks about chicken and beef). Another concern is leather in shoes or on clothing. I've mentioned leather before, and 2 of her grandparents have sent leather shoes.

I know this isn't a concern that all families have (specially, the vegan thing), but I am sure there are things you'd like to avoid (I know some people don't want toys with batteries, etc.).

I was thinking of sending a group email to all of our parents (she has 4 sets of grandparents) to just say, "Hey, here are a few ideas ... And, if you could stay away from leather and these things, we'd really appreciate it!".

Lastly, I am so thankful she has her amazing grandparents. I want them to gift things to her as they wish. I don't want to be controlling, because that's not what it's about. And, none of them have asked for a list from us yet, so I also don't want to seem entitled by sending one. It's just simply that we live far away, and they don't always understand the "weird" way we live.

  1. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    Since you have a special circumstance that i am assuming your families are aware of, i think it would be okay to send out an email or talk with them personally about specific things that are against your beliefs that they may not think of.

    We do an amazon wish list just so they can get an idea of what is age appropriate for lo, plus that way they know it is something he/we will like. But i have been very clear that it is just an idea list, and that we dont expect them to just pick certain items. They have really appreciated it...and we end up getting things that are similar to what we would buy for him.

  2. Anagram

    eggplant / 11716 posts

    Personally, I just accept gifts graciously and then don't use or give them away later if it's not useful to me. Like...I'm agnostic and.my husband is Hindu and a relative gifted us Christian sing-a-long songs on a CD. I just said thank you and buried it in a drawer somewhere until I remember to donate it.

  3. photojane

    cantaloupe / 6164 posts

    I always wait until I'm asked. I don't ever like to make assumptions. Personally, I would wait until someone asked me what she wanted to give any guidelines. But, they're your parents. If you don't think they'd be put off or offended, then go ahead!

  4. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @Mrs. Lion: That's a great idea! I didn't want to limit them to anything, so I thought about also telling them her clothing size, and a few things I thought she might like. Then, anything within the "no leather" is awesome.

    It's her first x-mas. She'll be 11.5 months, so she truly doesn't need anything.

    I've always disliked the posts on here that are like, "My mom want to buy my kid his first bike, but I wanted to!" ... And I don't want this post to come off like that.

  5. hilsy85

    squash / 13764 posts

    It sounds like your family is already aware of your lifestyle, but still disregards it? (I"m assuming they already know you're vegan and what that means). I personally would probably not say anything until asked, and I know my family always asks what LO needs for the holidays.

  6. Tanjowen

    nectarine / 2521 posts

    One option might be do a list of gifts on http://www.myregistry.com. It pulls items from a variety of stores all onto one site. That way you can put appropriate items on there and then send the link out to grandparents.

    We do this with Amazon and his grandparents buy off of there, since they know it's something we want and he needs!

  7. MrsRcCar

    grapefruit / 4712 posts

    Our families always ask for lists or ideas. They are after me for the lists now and have been for months. I wouldn't be offended to receive a list of ideas. They will probably be relieved to receive a list so there is no question as to age/lifestyle appropriate.

  8. MaryM

    pomelo / 5129 posts

    I like the idea of offering specific ideas instead of a list of things not to do.

    My brother and SIL are pretty particular about values and things, so they'll often suggest gifts particular people can get. I think in the end it's helpful. Especially if there are a lot of grandchildren/kids to buy for.

  9. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    We don't have any restrictions, but if we did, I would absolutely have a discussion with the grandparents. I know if I told my mom that we were vegan, she'd have no idea that it meant we didn't wear leather shoes, and she'd feel awful if she bought some for my son and he couldn't wear them.

    I personally wouldn't send a group email, or an email at all, I think it's best to have a discussion with each set of grandparents, and if they need a suggestion, refer them to your wishlist.

  10. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @Anagram: I can see the value in that. With the leather thing, I have very strong beliefs about it, and I feel like if I don't say something, then our family is just wasting their money.

    And, of course I would graciously accept gifts for our LO. BUT, I also think part of the joy of gift giving is knowing that it's something your loved one will use.

    My husband would throw away any sing-a-long kid's CD! Ha.

  11. autumnlove

    hostess / wonderful watermelon / 39513 posts

    I would not send any lists or suggestions until asked.

  12. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @looch: They are used to getting group emails. Since we live so far away, we send a monthly email to everyone, and they love it. We include photos, our latest news, and other little bits. We Skype every week with all of them, but we don't always remember "important things", and really it's our daughter trying to eat the computer screen.

    I was afraid a list would seem controlling, which is why I thought the two things: "no leather, and no books/toys about zoos/circuses/etc." would be a good idea.

    Are the lists hard/time consuming to make?

  13. youboots

    honeydew / 7622 posts

    Uh, I still think your family has a hard time grasping what vegan is beyond what you eat. Since they all live out of town and will be mailing gifts I think an Amazon wish list is appropriate, when they ask what she needs send that list. Skip the explanation.

    You mean you don't like the book that has the rodeo in it that I got you the day Al was born?

  14. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @youboots: Hahahaha! I LOVE YOU! Oh, and the zoo is in that book, too.

  15. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @hilsy85: I just think they can't grasp it. It is very weird. But, when I say, "No milk, no cheese, no eggs" with food, they tend to understand ... I thought saying, "no leather" would be good, but they seem to think it's like no leather coats.

  16. youboots

    honeydew / 7622 posts

    Oh and I agree that I don't like receiving gifts that I will not use for baby. One of the joys of being team green. My MIL just got a set of outfits that says Daddy's Little Tiger on it, which I will be exchanging. Even though I've explained I do not like words on shirts for kids, can't win them all. People will do what they want.

  17. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @autumnlove: Thank you! That's really what I wanted to know. It's our first go at this, so I didn't know what the norm was. Based on the other suggestions, I'll start a little wishlist, and send to them when they ask for it.

    Thanks ladies!!

  18. ShootingStar

    coconut / 8472 posts

    I would not send out any guidelines. I have been making an Amazon wishlist for D's birthday (nov) and Christmas. If peopel ask, I can tell them about it and if I had serious restrictions I'd also mention it as "hey by the way remember no leather, etc."

    But I'm with @Anagram: if someone gives us something I'm not fond of, I'll probably just donate it later.

  19. autumnlove

    hostess / wonderful watermelon / 39513 posts

    @Vegmama: What book did your LO get? Dragons Eat Tacos?

  20. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @autumnlove: Ha! Yes!! It's so cute!! We just said we'll say it's soy chicken and beef.

  21. blackbird

    wonderful grape / 20453 posts

    I think you could probably have a very frank discussion with your parents about it. I wouldn't have any qualms about telling my mother "Please don't buy us X for Christmas". It may take more than one discussion, though--my mother was pretty hard up to expand my "crystal collection" for a few years, but really, all it means is that I have a collection of junk, and it took some time for her to understand. If she continues to buy me crystal (i think last year I got a lead water carafe....), it just goes to the basement. Sorry, I'm not keeping frangible crystal around my toddler.

    DH could easily have this discussion with his mother: "Please don't get E XYZ for Christmas".

    Other than that, i wouldn't say anything. I'm sure people will ask what to get you and your LO for Christmas and you can throw it in there.

  22. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @ShootingStar: I guess I'm just not in the camp of donating it if I don't want it. With leather, a cow is killed. Sure, I could donate it, but by specifying that we don't use those kinds of products, I'm ensuring we aren't part of that cycle.

  23. ShootingStar

    coconut / 8472 posts

    @Vegmama: I just don't think it's very polite to email all the grandparents and remind them of what your rules are. If someone asks, then yes you can tell them your preferences. I understand you don't want people to support the leather industry by buying shoes, but in the case of books about zoos or tacos, you can just donate them.

  24. catomd00

    grapefruit / 4418 posts

    I think it's impolite to guide people in their gift giving if they haven't explicitly asked.
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    If you receive gifts you aren't comfortable with your child having, simply donate them if they aren't given with gift receipts. There are plenty of children who will be going without at Christmas time. Honestly, the leather shoe is already made, someone in need should benefit, shouldn't they? Instead of contributing to waste?

  25. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @catomd00: I would never throw it away. I would donate. My point is that our parents probably want to give gifts our LO will use. They've never asked us for Christmas lists, they just send things for us. This is why I was asking ... New situation now that baby is here.

    Also, that attitude about "it's already made" is not something I accept. I do as much as I can to ensure that doesn't happen.

  26. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @ShootingStar: Of course. I was talking about the leather. Not books. We would donate books ... Or if it's just 1 page, we would skip over that part.

  27. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    @Vegmama: I think there is a difference between a group email with a monthly update and a gift suggestion/guideline email, I would personally be fine with email for the first, but not the second. I think in some instances, a conversation is better, but that's just my traditional self speaking.

    Wishlists are super easy to create, there are a lot of different options now, where you can pull things together across companies.

  28. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    @looch: Is it easy for grandparents who do not know how to shop online? That would be my only reason for hesitating.

  29. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts

    Just now, my mom sent me my sister's birthday wish list. She's turning 16 next month. My first thought was that it was helpful. And, there were pointers about guitar strings and film. She's specific. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

  30. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @Vegmama: I think it all depends on the person. My family always sends Christmas and Birthday lists to each other, so I have an Amazon wishlist for Xander that I've sent to my parents and my brother. But my SMIL and FIL never do that and always just buy whatever they want. I try to get them to ASK me for suggestions by asking THEM for suggestions for themselves, but they don't take the hint. Sigh. In their case, as much as I WANT to tell them my wants/restrictions, I don't, because I feel like it would be rude. But anyone that asks me what Xander wants, I forward them the Amazon wishlist!

  31. mrs. tictactoe

    blogger / pomegranate / 3201 posts

    If someone asks me what Liam wants, I will send them a link to his amazon wish list. In your case, I would share your preferences with close family members and let them pass on the info to extended family. If you get something you don't want to use, you can return it or pass it on to someone else.

  32. Vegmama

    pear / 1799 posts


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  33. alohaorchid

    persimmon / 1404 posts

    I wouldn't send a list or make any suggestions until asked.

  34. looch

    wonderful pear / 26210 posts

    @Vegmama: So, here's how my mom shops online, she puts stuff in the cart, then she calls the company and places a telephone order, lol. But she's down with the wishlist, she's figured out that she can call most companies and order direct, or at least maybe find a local store. I was surprised!!

  35. Mrs. Lion

    blogger / grapefruit / 4836 posts

    @Vegmama: My family is capable of ordering online, but they don't usually. My MIL I think does, but my mom doesn't. She just looks in stores for things that look similar to the things on our wish list. And my DH's grandmother likes to pick out gifts at the toy store too, so my MIL takes her shopping and helps her pick something out.

  36. blackbird

    wonderful grape / 20453 posts

    wut.

  37. rattles

    grapefruit / 4903 posts

    @Vegmama: This seems like an overreaction to me.

    To answer your original question, I'd just wait until asked for suggestions.

  38. Ra

    honeydew / 7586 posts

    If you don't want to set guidelines, and you don't think they'd shop online, do you think they'd listen if you stressed what she's into? I know that might be difficult because she's still so young. For B, if a non-tech savvy family member asks I'll just say "he's really into x,y,z right now, they're always a safe bet" or "We really love Melissa & Doug toys (or another vegan friendly brand). You can find them at x,y,z." I'm personally not comfortable setting rules for gift giving, but I'm happy to point people in the right direction if they ask.

  39. Mrs. Lemon-Lime

    wonderful pea / 17279 posts

    I wouldn't send out a list of suggestions as that would turn me off and my parents too. Wait until someone asks for suggestions and if you feel the need to explain why certain specific items are on your wish list do so. Otherwise, inspect the surprise gift before you give it to your LO. If something doesn't make the cut just give it away.

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