R is 10 months and doesn't STTN ever. He eats solids well and drinks breastmilk. After 2 weeks of Ferber checks that worked, he never gave up the waking, then got sick and the checks stopped working after that. So I am considering straight CIO now (he can put himself to sleep). I have let him cry 15 mins motn (and have gone over an hour with Ferber checks). So I'm curious, if you did CIO to eliminate a single night waking, how long did the baby cry?
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More than 90 mins, sadly. So hard but I had to, I couldn't take another night of waking up (didn't sttn until 20 months, started sleep training at 5 months).
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around 45 min at 14 months. I was okay with the waking but she stopped letting me rck her to sleep so I had no choice but to have her CIO (checks pissed her off more.) First night was 45 min, next was sttn, next was 25 mn and has sttn since.
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Is he waking up hungry or waking up and having trouble linking his sleep cycles? We did CIO to go to sleep and that helped him learn to self soothe. We only needed to do limited crying for MOTN wakings.
My rules were every wake up requires a 10-15 minute wait. (Almost all of the time he fell back to sleep by the 7 minute mark.) And once he started sleeping until a certain time, that became the new "do not rescue before" time. Of course I used my judgement too - if he was normally was waking/eating by 1am and one night slept until 4am, I was fairly sure he was hungry when he woke.
Most wake ups took 7 minutes or less, I think I had one that was the full 15 minutes. But I let him go because he had woken up way earlier than he had been.
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@ShootingStar: he Nurses back to sleep. But pediatrician agrees that with his solids intake and how much he drinks it shouldn't be about hunger at this age. He sleeps 7-3 or so most nights. But had gone longer, like 10 hours, at least a handful of times so I know he can do it. I am guilty of not waiting 15 mins, more like 5, before I get him.
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@winniebee: water worked for me easier than cio, but I'm also not patient enough for cio. He stopped getting me up because it was not worth it for water.
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The first night he cried for 2 hours, but it wasn't continuous. We had set our checks for 15 mins and had the rule that if he calmed down it "reset" the clock. So he never cried for a solid 15 minutes, so we never actually went in. This was at my pediatrician a recommendation and it worked. 3 nights and he was sttn 7pm - 6am. Heaven!
But we weren't BF so I don't know what difference that makes. Maybe your SO should do the checks? I feel like I read that at some point about BF babies, but I glossed over it since it didn't apply to me.
Good luck!Eta: reading @shootingstar comment reminded me that we also had a "do not rescue before..." Rule. So if he reached a new high watermark for sleep, we wouldn't go in before that time the next night. This was mostly for feeding (once we weaned bottle and he was just waking at 4/5am it was straight CIO).
So first we night bottle weaned and then we did straight CIO. If you also wanted any thoughts on that let me know. I don't want to add info you aren't interested in here. -
@SweetiePie: so we tried night weaning (he nurses and gets a bottle or two a day) but after 2 weeks he kept waking up and then checks didn't work. And he got sick. So now I'm nursing at night again
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@winniebee: Aww! Do you have a "do not nurse before" time?
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My LO is 20 month and still wakes up 1-2 times a night. Still wondering what to do. Nursing and going back to bed is still so easy. But I am very angry the whole time!
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@IcebergMom: haha yes. angry at 3 am. sounds about right!
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@pastemoo: yes, if he wakes before 3 i try to get by with a ferber check.
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At 13 months and I'm so tired of waking up. I wish CIO worked but our kid is amazingly stubborn.
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i would but both my kids never cried long. sleep trained charlie at 4.5 months and olive at 13 and 16 months (was sick in between). worked like a charm with both kids and both didn't cry long much to my shock!
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@winniebee: That's pretty good (3am). Good luck with his sleeping! I hope something improves for you.
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@pastemoo: I feel bad complaining because he typically sleeps 7-3 or 330 but honestly I just don't feel that he should be waking at all
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We tried to eliminate the night nursing around 8 months or so, DH would go and sooth her first. It just didn't take- she would whine and whimper, alternating with crying, for an hour before I gave up and went and nursed her. But she started sttn for the most part at 9 months, so it wasn't so bad.
However, she is now 2 and still occasionally (often) wakes up in the middle of the night and one of us has to go sleep in the bed in her room with her for the rest of the night. So we aren't a great example.
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