grapefruit / 4800 posts
I'd be upset too and would need some trust to be built back.
Did he explain why he chose yesterday, a random Thursday, to play hooky?
coconut / 8305 posts
@belleoftheballe: Ugh! I'm SO sorry you're going through this! A breach of trust is a huge issue & I hope he realizes that! I'm a firm believer that trust can be restored, but it takes alot of work & definitely doesn't work well if one is still trying to hide or sneak around.
(((hugs))) I would be so devastated (just knowing myself). I really hope he can be transparent in a way that brings assurance.
pomelo / 5524 posts
@belleoftheballe: Boo...I'm really sorry! I guess the good part about this time is that he was alone, but the whole keeping it from you is just not cool. When you do cool off enough to talk to him about it, just explain that you aren't some kind of monster who is going to fly off the handle if he tells you that he needs a mental health day. Everyone needs one every once in a while. But he can't be sneaking around like he was. Like you said...what if, God forbid, something happened to him while he was at the beach. Or...what if something happened to you/LO while he was there and you couldn't get in touch with him??
clementine / 826 posts
@Maysprout: he said that he was 20 mins late for work and didn't feel like walking in late again, so he called in 'sick'...
nectarine / 2631 posts
I totally get this! Something similar happened between my DH and I a couple weeks ago! He went out after work for a couple drinks, but wasn't going I tell me he went out- was going to make me think he was at work the whole time. I was pissed, I felt like it was a lie by omission! I think I was more upset because I don't get the opportunity to have those time outs!! I am over it now, but I was pretty mad at the time!
grapefruit / 4235 posts
The wedding ring thing is alarming to me (and that's coming from someone whose DH doesn't wear a wedding ring, ever.)
clementine / 826 posts
@2PeasinaPod: that was my thinking last night as i was lying in bed awake. what if something had happened?
grapefruit / 4923 posts
i would definitely be hurt and upset. i don't mind if DH wanted a day just to do fun stuff, but to keep it a secret would feel weird to me. i would be hurt that he felt like he couldn't tell me about his fun day. i'm sorry!
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
Oh, I would be mad but as someone who does not have children yet, I don't think I can understand how stressful it is to have a kid. I'm not condoning his actions at all, though.
But for him to not give you the chance to do the same thing really upsets me.
The right thing to do was to tell you about it beforehand (or confess afterwards) and also give you the ability to take the day off, too. You both need breaks from parenthood.
I'm so sorry.
apricot / 469 posts
This is a real breech in trust, I am so sorry that you are going through this
Perhaps ask him if he is feeling overwhelmed and why he felt he needed to do this in secret just to get an idea of where he head is. It sounds like there could be some underlying issues as you referred to past problem - were they fully resolved? Maybe you could consider meeting with a relationship therapist or pastor someone with an outside viewpoint to discuss this and how your marriage is working. I know that may sound a bit dramatic but I am a huge believer in "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" when it comes to these things!
In the meantime, feel better and treat yourself kindly!
clementine / 818 posts
@belleoftheballe: Do you think your DH might be depressed? I think you are TOTALLY justified in being upset, but this seems like such a random thing to do on just a typical Thursday, it strikes me as odd, and not just like being shady odd. For him to want/ need to go do all those things by himself on a whim makes me wonder if he is struggling with life and just needed to get away? While that does not in any way justify not telling you, it would explain a little bit more of his frame of mind.
I really think you guys need to have a talk, once you have had time to sort things out in your head. Why did he feel the need to do this, why truly did he not tell you when he did it, why did he not tell you after, why does he not think you could use the same type of day away from your "office"? I would also make it clear to him that while you two have worked through the issues of the past this just brings up those past hurts and lies. I would try and be understanding and gentle, because I really do think it seems like maybe he is have some struggles right now, I might even ask if he is depressed.
I'm so sorry your dealing with this! Its really hard having to deal with both this new issue, and having the past brought back into your mind, its like you have to deal with both things at once, and then you have to forgive the past all over again, while still trying to forgive the present. I hope you guys can have an honest talk about what is really going on. Big big big hugs!
coconut / 8279 posts
I'm so sorry (((hugs)))
I would be PISSED.
As someone who doesn't wear any jewelry to the beach - especially my wedding ring - I wouldn't be mad about that personally. But you really deserve a beach day yourself. I would absolutely express my hurt/anger and demand a day to myself with all the trimmings: massage/mani-pedi, shopping & beach.
GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I don't think it is a monumentally huge deal. DH does this sometimes. Part of us being in a trusting relationship is that he doesn't have to tell me every single thing he does. It took a while for me to get here, but we're here now and things are just fine.
If he wants to take a day off from work, he's a grown man and can do what he wants. If he doesn't want to tell me about it, that's okay. He didn't do anything bad that day, just enjoyed himself and did some fun things. If it bothers you that he got to take a day off and do fun things and you don't, then come up with a day that you can do the same. He can take a scheduled day off work, hang with the baby, and you can go off and do whatever you want without question.
Sometimes I'll post things online and people will be offended on my behalf and fan my flame more than if I just kept it to myself and dealt with it on my own. Just my two cents!
grapefruit / 4187 posts
I would be really upset about two things. First, the fact that he chose not to tell you - I would really want to know why and get to the bottom of it. Second, the position he put you and your relationship in. What if you had called his work looking for him or if it had somehow gotten around to anyone that you didn't know he called in sick? That would have been an absolute disaster as people would now be talkign about the fact that you guys are struggling in your marriage. So it's a clear disrespect to you and your family that he put you in that position in the first place.
Instead of exploding at him for what he did, I would force him to confess and face the reason why he chose not to tell me. I would then explain to him what I said above, the position it puts your family in when he does things like that. Because first and foremost - it is completely disrespectful to you. And on top of it like others have said, what if something happened to you or him?
Whether or not it's okay for him to play hookey like this is a totally different discussion but regardless it should be understood that family comes first and in this scenario he wasn't putting his family first. And also, in these situations I like to as my DH - "How would you feel if I did that to you?" and it really makes him think twice about it.
Good luck! I truly believe these things happen to everyone on some level and we can all get through it. No one is perfect and relationships take work!
pomegranate / 3521 posts
@highwire: I see where you are coming from but I think there is an additional issue where @belleoftheballe: has caught him in a previous deceitful situation.
DH and I are very independent and trusting people but it takes no time at all to say "I took a mental health day today and ran around doing my own thing to relax" It doesn't need to be a big discussion or anything but it keeps everyone on the same page with open communication. It also tells your partner that you felt the need to have a mental health day. I guess I just think it takes the same amount of effort to be open and honest than to not say anything at all.
GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts
@Reese: I agree. But my DH is just not that type of communicator so instead of letting issues like this become big altercations, I've elected to pick my battles (mine has also had more than one "deceitful" type behavior in the past as well). It isn't a great situation, but I had to find a way to make it work for myself or we'd be divorced.
clementine / 826 posts
Thank you all for listening to me. I needed to hear all of your perspectives.
I'm going to have a chat with him when he gets home. This kind of thing is not acceptable. I have needs too, and they include a couple of days off!!!
kiwi / 693 posts
I'm sorry you're having to deal with this! I would be upset too, only about the lying, not the day off. I really think you now deserve to have your own day off!
blogger / nectarine / 2608 posts
@belleoftheballe: I don't like it.
Mr. T doesn't wear his ring most of the time, but it's because it is an amputation hazard for most parts of his work. And he is alone or with just his dad in the middle of a field, or in our yard, or somewhere else where there aren't other people around. I think what sits the worst with me was how matter of fact he was about the deception. It sounded from what you wrote that he had no feelings of guilt at all regarding keeping this from you. Almost like he was frustrated with YOU for finding out (and wrecking it for him?). I think in relationships where there has been a breech of trust in the past the most respectful thing the person who breeched that trust can do is to be an open book until the wronged party feels comfortable to change that again. It doesn't sound like you were or are feeling trusting enough to do that yet. I hope that he will decide to be more open with you until you feel you are able to trust him. And some reciprocity would be nice. Maybe when you talk to him you can mention ways he could help you have a break in the near future.
wonderful pea / 17279 posts
@highwire: DH and I don't have any past trust issues, but I would still be a bit miffed if he took off from work, pretended to go to work, and tried to continue hide the fact that he was somewhere else. Taking a vacation day is not a big deal. Lying to your partner is.
In case of emergencies and general courtesy we share where we are. We don't always get into the minutia detail of our plans or why one of us feels the need to take a day off and be by ourselves. But, at least we aren't letting one person think we are at work where we could be a dozen of other places or just simply at home.
pomelo / 5524 posts
@belleoftheballe: Keep us posted on how the chat goes! Lots of luck!
persimmon / 1420 posts
I think I'd be frustrated and annoyed about him playing hooky without telling me, but I'd be upset that he was not allowing me to do the same thing every now and then. To me, the playing hooky is not as big of a deal as him not respecting the work that you do as well. Granted, this is just my situation, and we haven't had a breech of trust before. I'm sorry that he did this! I hope that you find resolution soon. Keep us updated on his response!
GOLD / eggplant / 11517 posts
@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: ETA: I wish my DH would share in that kind of thinking...but he doesn't, so that is why I wanted to share my experiences as an alternative viewpoint.
I'm not saying I wouldn't be miffed, I would! And I've been there countless times. I just wouldn't go so far as some of the suggestions of having to have a big, giant, intense talk about it/seek therapy/question his morals/whatnot. It sounds like the biggest issue OP has is the fact that she doesn't get a day off herself, so that would be where I focus my advice and attention.
pomegranate / 3759 posts
I have totally been in your shoes and i'm sorry because it does hurt. DH does that a lot and says that he thought i'd either be mad or that I wouldn't care. I basically told him, that especially now with kids, I need an update when you do anything. Especially when thre are changes in plans because what if I needed to contact him or something were to happen and I didn't know where he was. He completely understands and now texts me when he does ANYTHING. I hate to be 'that' wife but communication is so important.
pear / 1556 posts
I would be hurt too, and I think you have every right to be. If DH did this to me, I would be upset and we don't have any trust issues in our past. If we did, I would be even more upset. I don't have any great advice besides having a conversation with him about it. I hope that it works out for you!
GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts
@belleoftheballe: I agree with what @MrsStormy was getting at . . . the departure from his normal routine strikes me as *distress* behavior . . . , i.e., stress from work/ parenting demands/ relationship stress etc. Instead of approaching it from a *where's my day off* standpoint, what about just talking to him about what made him feel the need to get away. I also wouldn't start in about how angry you feel, I would tell him that his behavior hurt your feelings because he didn't trust you enough to tell you and that that is both sad and disappointing.
ETA: Not that your anger is not justified . . . it just may not be productive to approach the situation from that angle.
pomelo / 5093 posts
@belleoftheballe: Taking off his ring, in my mind, takes it from an unkind betrayal to something even more problematic. It is barely believable that he needed a day off and just took it. But taking off his wedding ring? I'd worry about a bigger problem than just needing to figure out how to get time off for both of you.
hostess / watermelon / 14932 posts
I hope you are feeling better. I don't understand all the talk about the ring - unless that's been an issue before? Dh never ever wears his ring, i have gotten out of the habit too (scratching LO). When I am wearing it - and he does this too - we leave it somewhere safe if we are going swimming or like, theme park, etc. he's a ring twiddler so I'm afraid he will lose it!
GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts
@sorrycharlie: I agree with both of your posts to the extent that the goal here should be communication and not punishment or escalating the situation before a conversation can be had.
pomegranate / 3863 posts
I am so sorry. Betrayal or perception of betrayal is such an awful thing to go through. I don't have any advice that hasn't already been said, except for the ring. I think I might go a little against the grain here.
Unless your DH never takes off his ring, I wouldn't be too worried about that. My DH always wears his but my Dad and brother never wear theirs (for the same reason as @Mrs.Twine, amputation risk) so I can totally understand someone not wearing theirs or taking theirs off. I guess it just depends on your personal situation. I don't think he should be vilified for it if it is common behavior for him!
I hope you can have a meaningful conversation with him and that he is receptive towards your feelings. I'll be thinking of you! Maybe you can schedule a day off when he isn't working (schedule spa services or lunch and shopping with a friend, something that can't be cancelled) and just leave him to fend for himself and the kids for a day.
nectarine / 2886 posts
I'm so sorry, I would be upset too. If he's not happy at work and needed a mental health day, I would understand. Maybe he felt guilty skipping work and that guilt led him to keep it from you too.
But the ring situation would make me uncomfortable because none of the things he did yesterday sound like activities that would lead someone to take their ring off. If he went to the driving range, etc. fine. Did you directly ask him why he left his ring in the car?
bananas / 9973 posts
I'm really sorry you are going through this. {{{Hugs}}} I can understand wanting a day off for yourself, but the fact that he's had a breech of trust in the past makes any sort of action like this questionable. There should be no reason to keep such a thing a secret. I hope it was really just a day for himself and that it was just a poor choice on his part for not telling you.
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