pomelo / 5258 posts
Maybe I'm a bad employee but I think I have to say yes. My team is totally helping me out. I'm still pumping and travel sucks so my boss has not been sending me out as much as the rest of the team. My boss is doing the same for another new dad on the team. The rest of the team knows what's going on.
I've been the younger, single employee before in the same situation. I never saw it as much of a burden, more as an opportunity to shine.
grapefruit / 4988 posts
No. I'm in a weird situation maybe because when I joined my company, it was still technically a startup, everyone was fairly young, and no one had kids. When people started having kids, many of us cut hours or shifted them, but everyone kept us the same amount of work because our group was still so small that it's not like anyone could shift any of our work to anyone else. These days, we have alot of younger people without kids working here, but they take their cue from the older folks who have been here longer. We all used to work longer hours in the beginning, but now most of us work shorter hours, including the people without kids, since they just follow the same schedule as the people who have been here longer.
pomegranate / 3127 posts
Not really, it's more a matter of who's been at the company longer. The more junior staff log more field hours and have weirder schedules. I can't do that even if I wanted to now, but others at my level don't do that much field work even if they have no kids, and I think our hours are similar... sometimes I just need to do my report writing on nights and weekends if there's a crunch. And before I had kids, I put in 200% - seven years of running around the city at all hours, long days and all that. I'll never forget accidentally volunteering for a late shift on my first Valentine's Day with DH!
nectarine / 2148 posts
I'm saying overall yes. I work in law and in a team setting. During busy season there is a set amount of work that needs to get done by a set date. It's a collective effort to get it done. I agree some of it is perception. I go in early and most people stay late so maybe they think I don't work as many hours. Or, I try to be as productive as I can because I know I have to leave at a certain time, whereas I know other people do slack during the day. BUT, I know there are likely times where I can't do OT or stay late or last minute things come up someone else has to deal with. But it's not a daily occurrence. On other occasions people have personal things come up where I cover too.
grapefruit / 4028 posts
Absolutely, yes. i can't got into to much detail, but at the very least, kids are used as an excuse with a resounding frequency that is always accepted. Other excuses, however legitimate or valid, are not.
nectarine / 2280 posts
My previous employer was more family friendly and people with kids definitely didn't get put on overnights or weekends unless they asked to be. Everyone knew that having a kid was the best excuse to get out of stuff.
honeydew / 7303 posts
Nope, we all have our own schedules and it doesn't affect anyone else if we have to leave early. We never have anything after hours that is mandatory so it really doesn't matter.
persimmon / 1132 posts
I would have to say yes to this. I was given work that others couldn't do because of their kid responsibilities. They had more leeway than I did. Just how it was across several offices I've worked at. On the hand, I also advanced faster and farther in my career because I could focus on it. Not saying that others with kids were less focused, it's just how things progressed for me among my peer group. I'm grateful for that time of being able to say "Yes!" to whatever came my way. (Well, saying no wasn't really an option!)
After I figured out a few things in the world of work, I eventually took "meternity' type sabbaticals (of course I didn't call it that! totally ridiculous!) that led me to take extended travel, meeting DH and ultimately many more job offers... I say "meternity" type because I did observe from other women and men taking sabbaticals and leave and career breaks for family reasons (of varying sorts) that it wasn't going to wreck my career to step away from work, take care of my personal needs (like finding love!) and pursue other things for awhile. Work was always going to be there.,
This might be an unpopular sentiment but I think this "meternity vs. the moms" thing is a bit funny-sad. That writer really stepped in it with moms (total click bait!) but I also think there is an unseen, unheard side of our childless friends and coworkers that she reflects. Everyone just wants to be seen and feel supported despite our family-making choices (or lack thereof, for some).
grapefruit / 4455 posts
No, before and after kids.
At all jobs... We have helped each other out because it's the decent thing to do but that has nothing to do with parent status. When people have health problems or other family members to take care of or whatever that's a good reason too.
grapefruit / 4028 posts
@Amorini: thank you for what you said. Some times, it isn't a choice not to have kids, it doesn't always come easily. And I have to say, dealing with infertility, it can really feel like adding salt to the wound when I have to cover for coworkers with kids just because I don't have them. My time isn't seen as as valuable. I completely understand that I'm more sensitive because of my circumstances right now, possibly unfairly so, but it is making sure that if I am blessed with a family someday that I will make sure to keep the work equitable for future coworkers without children.
persimmon / 1132 posts
@Crystal: I hear you. There was a recent post about "friends without kids don't get it." Ouch! I'm sure it was all context but whoa. Just 18w now and I couldn't really read it. I'll forever be sensitive to the parent-less perspective.
wonderful pea / 17279 posts
This happens at my job. A couple- few times a year we have to work weekends. Those with children always opt out. It's been fine since those without kids or adult children don't mind going, but at this point it's just become a habit.
Otherwise, I think those with kids and without kids enjoy the same perks of a flexible schedule. Managers know those with kids leave early to pick up their kids. Managers know those without kids leave early to beat traffic. Either way thede us so much work to do once everyone gets home.
persimmon / 1270 posts
In a way yes, I am the production manager at a small theater and DH does similar work. Before baby I we both worked lots of nights. That's just not something I can keep doing. I have found ways to not need to be around as much (giving more training to the ones who are working the shows) but sometimes I need to ask someone else to work late when I can't and make sure everything runs smoothly.
There are so many ways we all help each other out and I am lucky to work in an environment that values a sustainable balanced life (something that is almost impossible in NYC and non-profit arts).
My hours have always been flexible, but they are even more so now with LO. Sometimes I bring him into work with me. Not always the best for getting computer work done. But I can strap him on my back and run a load in just fine. He loves it.
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