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I had a non-napper. At 6 months she started on two naps that were 30-45 mins. It drove me insane but seemed to be all she needed!!! I almost lost my shit during that time. She started napping well when she started daycare... At 12 months :(. That sounds depressing but what I'm getting at is it won't last forever! At 2 my daughter now takes a very typical 2 hour nap in the afternoon!

From about 6 months to 14 months, mine took 2 naps for between 1.5-2+ hours each. The morning one was at 9:30 and the afternoon one was at 1:30. We never ever messed with the nap schedule. That stinks his sleep is all over the place, I know you've tried sleep training at night, is it worth trying nap training for the day? Will he sleep in the stroller or swing?

At 6 months my son's napping was awful and it turned out he needed a 2 nap schedule. He needed about 2.5 hours of wake time before each nap, slept for about 90 minutes for each nap (or a combined 3-ish hours a day in naps) and then he was up about 3 hours before bedtime at 7-730pm, depending on how tired he was. I think we had early bedtime for about 2 weeks. Then he was down for about 11-12 hours at night. Now a 8 months, I think he's just about ready for more like 2 hours and 45 minutes of wake time. He's started taking a longer morning nap and a shorter afternoon nap, but still around the 3 hour nap total.

I will say that every time DS has some major developmental change (especially physically), it messes up his sleep. When he was learning to crawl and sit up at the same time, that was a doozy. It was annoying because he would just work on it over and over and get frustrated and scream and generally cause a ruckus. He'd wake up after every sleep cycle and just start practicing and screaming even though he was exhausted. In fact we moved him to sleeping in the PNP at this point (with a mattress and sheet) because he kept falling over and smacking his head on the crib rails which just made it worse. He's still in the PNP because how he's pulling up and falling over constantly! But at least he just falls and at some point gets tired and falls asleep. In the crib it was like constantly getting a foot stuck or smashing his head or whatever.

my LO was taking 3 naps at that age, but my LO has been at the slower end of the range in dropping naps.

if your LO is learning a new skill or going through some developmental change, it can mess up naps for a bit before going back to normal. or, as people have suggested, he might be ready to drop to 2 naps. although even when a kid is "ready" to drop a nap, the transition can still be kind of rough.

it's so hard to tell! i think it's up to you and what you can tolerate best, waiting it out and keep trying with the current nap schedule for a week or so to see if it's just a phase, or working to 2 naps.

for the rolling around--i would generally leave my LO until he settled down on his own, but that may not work for every baby.

Try a 2-3-4 schedule and see how he does. I didn't move DS to that until he was 8 or 9 months and after I did it, I realized we probably could've done it way before that. For a really long time you could practically tell time by when he needed his first nap. It would be pretty much 2 hours on the dot after waking up that he'd get cranky. The 2nd nap was always a bit more flexible though. DS did fine with it anywhere from 3-3.5 hours after he woke up from nap 1. And we did a standard bed time, we didn't try to time it 4 hours after his last waking.

We just tried to move our 6 month old to 2 naps for about a week. It was a disaster. She couldn't handle that much time before bed and started waking up allllll night. We are still struggling with early mornings but I went back to 3 naps for now. It seems like of your baby can handle longer awake times I would try for 2 naps, it might make them longer.