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  1. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @chibee: are you testing sat or sun??

    I don't have the capability to keep secrets from DH... I try to organize surprises and I'm terrible at it! Lol

  2. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    It's finally Friday here!!!! 10.45am! That means, in just a few hours, it will be the weekend - the weekend @Hanzabelle and @Chibee can POAS!! I'm so excited!!! Baby dust to you both!

    It will also, hopefully, be the weekend I will be Oing! Hopefully!!! After yesterday's negative but almost positive OPK, my stupid body shut down, all symptoms stopped and I got a further two negatives (yes I tested three times yesterday!!) with stark white spaces where lines should be!! Grr!

    Then, this morning, I wake up with slight cramping and an abundance of CM (TMI, I know!) - I thought AF had come in the night!!! (yes, disgusting imagery!). My OPK was still negative but it was an even darker line that yesterdays!! Hurrah!!!

    I think my body has tried to O twice so far this month (a couple of days apart) - my temps have been up and down like a mad thing (they're normally really steady). Hopefully, this time it will be successful!!!!

    @Anonysquire - I quite like the idea of not telling DH for a little while. It will be like a special secret between you and your tiny, tiny LO - he/she will be just yours for a few weeks. I'd have to tell mine even if I didn't want to because he pours me a glass of wine when I get in from work!! He'd know something was very very wrong (or very right!) if I said no!!!

  3. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @Ali: Oh I soooooo sooo soooo hope you O!!!

    I'm feeling pretty miserable. I have my usual back pain cramp that usually means AF is arriving... I am so convinced that this is not my month I bought a tight pair of jeans today..... sigh.

  4. chibee

    pear / 1974 posts

    @Ali: OPKs are so frustrating! I hope it comes up positive this weekend!

    @Hanzabelle: I've had stomach cramps all morning, it kind of feels like AF is coming although it's really not expected until next week...

    So my new thing now is that maybe I will just wait to see if AF is late. I have friends flying in to stay the weekend with us and I'm not sure I want my mood to be ruined (or have to contain my excitement, either way) the whole weekend, if that makes any sense?? It would be a miracle if I could really hold out but I don't know...

  5. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @chibee: ooooh that would be hard... But wouldnt AF make u just as disappointed? I just had a hot shower and got into bed cause I feel miserable. atleast I've got a haircut to look forward to tomorrow!

  6. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Hanzabelle @ Chibee - I think I'm with Hanzabelle about AF making me more miserable. I'm thinking, once I O (ifI ever O!!) I might stop taking my temps - because I think that seeing my temp drop might make me more upset than a BFN. Then I'll test before AF has a chance to appear!!!!!

  7. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @Ali: you will O!! Your body totally wants too! I feel this weekend is yours!!!

  8. chibee

    pear / 1974 posts

    @Ali: you definitely will O - it took me 27 days to O this month it can be weird! What CD are you at?

  9. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Chibee - CD18. And after an almost (but still not quite) positive OPK at 10am today, I've just got another stark white negative at 5pm!! Sigh!! It's so, so confusing!!!

  10. chibee

    pear / 1974 posts

    Alright guys I caved and tested - BFN, on top of that, I am brown spotting ever so lightly with cramps. Oh well, I knew it wasn't my month. @Hanzabelle: hope you have better results than i did!

    Oh man, is this disappointing, I'm actually really surprised by how upset I am at this.

  11. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    Oh.... @Chibee - I'm so, so sorry. Lots of love and hugs xxxx You have a great weekend with your friends who are visiting, drink lots of wine and cocktails and then get back on the horse for next month. More hugs. xx

  12. chibee

    pear / 1974 posts

    @Ali: thanks I bawled my eyes out like an idiot while DH was gone, I feel like a drama queen but I felt so disappointed! It's silly because it was our first month and we honestly did not even time things right either, but I couldn't help but hope it would just take one try and I would magically become pregnant. This is so stressful, I can see how incredibly hard and draining it is for people that have been TTC for a long time.. I truly truly feel for them.
    Are you any closer to a positive OPK yet??

  13. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Chibee - I got my positive tonight!!!! Yippee!!!! DH isn't gonna know what hit him tonight! And tomorrow!! Lol!

    Oh... I wanna send you more hugs now. You have every right to feel upset. You will get your BFP, you will! It just seems these things take longer than I ever knew.... More hugs. More and more! xx

  14. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @chibee: oh I'm so sorry I know how you feel... its so disappointing I just feel numb.. there is nothing wrong with having a good cry though...here's to a stressfree more relaxed October. Your time will come.

    @Ali: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY bout time there was some good news on here... get to it!! lol

    SO Here's my update 13dpo. BFN..I took a digital and i felt like it was yelling at me NOOOOTTTT PREGNANT. urgh. AF is due today and hasn't arrived yet so there is some hope still I guess...but I'm pretty sure its not our month. I think its because we allllllll need to get pregnant at the same time ...lol

  15. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @anonysquire: I hope everything is ok?

  16. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    Urgh now to top the the week off I'm home sick with gastro....

  17. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Hanzabelle: Oh no!!! Get well soon!!! I hate throwing up. Hugs. xx

    I had a bit of a drama-queen moment this morning. My OPKs have been positive for days now but my temperature hasn't risen, meaning that my body is ready to O but it hasnt quite happened yet! Problem is, of course you just don't know when it will be so timing BDing is near on impossible! The only soloution is to do it daily minimum, I think....

    I've tried all the tricks in the book this weekend, with lots of success... then.....

    ....last night, I got the brush off! We'd been decorating all day and he'd laid new flooring for me so he was really tired (and we'd BD'd AM, poor soul). I lay awake half the night, worrying, calculating how many hours the morning's troops would have to have survived if I O'd in the night! I figured we'd be fine... fingers crossed....

    So, this morning, when I saw my temp hadn't spiked yet, I was horrified, realising that I was going to have to initiate BDing tonight as well. He's doing some building work on the house today, while I'm at work, so he'll be even more tired. I thought that I must be driving him mad, demanding all this action, and I imagined him lying there, pretending to be asleep, hoping I'd go away! I crawled out to the bathroom and sobbed.

    Anyway, by the time DH had woken up, I'd gone from sad and weepy to moody!!! I stomped aobut the house, snapping at him (really seductive, huh?!). I finally admitted to what was bothering me (and had another cry) and he was lovely about it (as he always is). He said it was okay - and he wasn't getting annoyed with me throwing myself at him every 5 minutes (phew).

    So, yeah, this TTC stuff is really depressing, huh?!!

  18. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @Ali: oh totally....I'm snapping at poor DH all the time the last few days..and now i'm sick so I feel even worse... still no AF though so the hope is killing me too! I'm exhausted, I'm stressed.... ergghh... need something to take my mind off it!! But I am so glad you are ovulating though!! And i'm sure his soilders will be strong enough to survive their mission lol. I think i'm going order some o sticks for next month.

  19. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Hanzabelle: This is TMI, I know, but are you, erm, poorly sick from both ends?? Or just sick?? I really didn't want to ask when you first said you had a gastro bug, for fear of getting your hopes up. but as they're already up, well, I can't help but hope you're just one of those late showers?? And you said you were really tired a couple of days back.......

    The hope is killing me too!!! I've got everything crossed (except my legs. Oh dear. Oh dear, I've sunk that low).

  20. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @Ali: hahaha thanks for making me laugh. yes both ends... More throwing up though. I could barely keep my eyes open today sooo tired, dogs have been super clingy... EVERYTHING feels like a damn symptom!!!! I'm gonna be devasted when AF comes.

  21. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    Ok so can I have a winge. I feel like a really need someone to talk to and in the matters of pregnancy you guys are all I have!! I'm really down ATM. I'm being a bitch to DH, I'm taking out not being pregnant on him- I know it's stupid but I can't help it. The house is a mess which makes me angrier. I have to go away for two days tomorrow for a stupid work thing. I hate my job. I hate where we are living at the moment. DH has a extremely high risk, and highly stressful job and is overworked and stressed. If we don't get pregnant next month we'll prob give up for a few months as otherwise my due date will fall right when we are moving. I know i should just be grateful that I have a wonderful DH and we are all healthy. But sometimes life sucks that is all......... Quick tell me a joke! @Ali:

  22. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Hanzabelle: Oh I'm so sorry sweetie. Sometimes life really does suck, I hear you. Think back to a time when life sucked before - coz I bet you've felt like this before. Did it last forever? No. When you've got some beautiful children, you're living somewhere totally different, DH has a different job, all of this will seem like a million years ago.

    Okay, here's a story for you. A true story at that!!

    We currently don't have a bathroom door because we're decorating the stairs and landing. You can imagine that peeing in a cup (for OPK purposes, not just for fun!) is quite a challenge without a bathroom door!!! So, one day during the weekend, I got up early to go and test. As I was getting up, I noticed that DH was awake and looked like he was going to get out of bed. I panicked and, in a bid to keep him in bed, I offered to bring him breakfast.

    I grabbed my OPK on the way downstairs. Well, there I was, in the kitchen, desperate to test.... I got a plastic beaker out of the cupboard and stood, holding it for a while. I couldn't could I? It's the kitchen! It's where food gets prepared!! I couldn't do a pee in the kitchen!!!! I flipped the kettle on. Oh, but I wanted to test so much! I hovered over the cup...... no. NO!

    At the end of the kitchen, we have a little conservatory, where the dogs sleep. It's glass all the way round - but has seen it's fair share off pee during house-breaking the dogs and we always keep a puppy pad down in there just in case. I could pee, guilt free, in there, I thought - I could hover over the puppy pad.....

    So there I was, in a glass room, hovering over the puppy pad, attempting to pee into a cup. What an image!! I hope none of my neighbours saw!! I didn't care at that point, I was a woman on a mission! By now, the kettle was almost boiling at was quite loud. I therefore didn't hear DH getting up....

    The kettle clicked off just as I'd finished my cup-pee and just as DH entered the lounge.... I heard him speaking to one of the dogs, his voice clearly coming closer, and panicked! In one swift movement, I tipped the contents of the cup onto the puppy pad. I was still bent slightly over the pad - and holding the cup - when DH walked in.

    "Stupid dogs!!" I exclaimed. I rolled the puppy pad up and, in a moment of genius, popped it into the cup, "In case it drips taking it to the bin" I added, like I always used the cup-drip-tray method!

    How did I become this woman?? Peeing on a cup in the conservatory, for everyone to see!! Blaming my poor dogs!!!

    Hope that's cheered you up a little? When it all seems too much to bear, you can think "At least I'm not Ali, peeing in a cup like some kind of freak" and feel better!!! Hugs. xxx

  23. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @Ali: haaha thanks that is pretty funny!!! Hehehe DH does love his job it's just they are understaffed at the moment so hopefully that will change soon... Still no sign of AF tonight.

  24. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Hanzabelle: That makes you 4 days late, right? Are you usually bang on schedule?

  25. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @Ali: yes and yes... But I've taken first response and digitals they all said definate BFN.

  26. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    I think it's probably stress stuffing up my cycle.

  27. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Hanzabelle: It might well be. You know what they say, a watched kettle never boils, a watched ovary never ovulates and a watched uterine lining never detaches and sheds... or something.

    Get yourself a basal body thermometer now so you're ready to start taking your temperature on the first day of AF. xx

  28. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @Ali: yeah I think I should ... might have to order it online though. Doubt anyone sell them here!!! Lol might do the BD tonight just for fun

  29. chibee

    pear / 1974 posts

    @Ali: hahaha I could totally picture myself doing this, as I have puppy pads for my doggies haha! A basal body thermometer is just a thermometer that shows two digits after the decimal point, meaning it will show 98.63 rather than just 98.6, so you may be able to just ask around at the pharmacy and they may be able to point you in the right direction.

    @Hanzabelle: I know exactly how you feel. When I got my BFN on Saturday, then AF came at the same time, I was so incredibly upset, as you can see how I bawled, and I definitely took it out on DH and I felt guilty about it. I just got so annoyed and upset at the fact I had to go through another month of this! Let's calm down, try to stay a bit carefree and stress free, and hope for better results this month. I know for a fact that stress is what caused me to ovulate so late and what made this month's cycle so crazy, and why we didn't get pregnant. Your period being late is definitely a by product of the stress of TTC too I'm sure (unless you're pregnant, of course)

    I am so glad I had friends staying w/us this weekend to distract me from my terrible mood - AF this time around gave me the world's worst cramps and every time I felt the cramp it was as if my body was laughing at me. It was rough, but I had a great weekend with friends that I hadn't seen in a long time.

    What was a little hard though, was that I babysat for a coworker's baby on Sunday night while they went to a wedding in my town. She's a perfect little 4 month old angel and it didn't help matters much, but I am now more optimistic and hopeful than bitter and upset about the failed first month attempt. I think I might get back to charting again this month though, just so I can pinpoint exactly when I have ovulated. @Hanzabelle: will you chart this month, or are you charting already?

  30. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Hanzabelle @Chibee

    Can I just share - I just confided in my best friend over email about my frustrations about DH not wanting to BD on demand and I feel really upset about her response. She is currently 7 months pg with her first and was firmly in the "no pressure, no charting, nature doing it's course" camp. That was ok for her because they BDd every day before they were TTC....Even then, it took her year to conceive.

    Here are a few choice snippits from her reply:

    "You only decided about a month ago that you were ready to start trying. You are only on week three!! You need to chill "

    Erm, hello. I'm chilled, I just want to BD when the time's right. is that a crime??

    "On top of this, have you started taking vitamins yet? They recommend that you take folic acid up to three months before getting pregnant"

    And my personal favourite:

    "Would it really be the end of the world if it didn't happen this month??"

    I don't know why it's upset me so much. I just feel like I'm being mocked by my own best friend - and I feel like I'm not allowed to want this because I haven't been trying long enough.

    i know I'm probably just overreacting because I'm all upset anyway - I just wanted her support, that's all, not criticism.

    I just feel really alone on this journey. Thank goodness for you guys.

  31. singingbee

    pomelo / 5073 posts

    @Ali: Oooooh...I would want to just stomp my foot at your friend's responses. I just didn't like them. I feel like people forget what it was like for them when they were in the middle of everything.

  32. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @Hanzabelle: Still no AF?

    @Chibee, @Ali and @Hanzabelle: I totally get being so frustrated and upset that you screw up your cycle. I'm pretty sure that was me last month. I didn't take it out on DH but I got his hopes up and then mine all to have them dashed. He was devastated which devastated me too. Not charting for the second half would probably be a good idea, but I just don't think I can stop being a control freak for that long.

  33. Mrs squirreld

    nectarine / 2522 posts

    @ambular1025: @Ali: @chibee: Hey lovelies.. not a long repsonse... but I have just done a 12 hour day at work and I am soooooo tired. And have another 12 hour day tomorrow... but just wanted to say..STILL NO AF. catch up with you all tomorrow.

  34. chibee

    pear / 1974 posts

    @Ali: I actually did the same with my friend that visited over the weekend, and she was very sympathetic but I don't think she understood exactly how devastated I was at this first month's failure. I don't think anyone could understand unless you're going through it, or have gone through it - I am such a control freak and I feel like this is totally out of my control and that's the part that frustrates me the most. I understand though, and that's why we post here!

    @Hanzabelle: you may have just ovulated late, like I did this cycle? If I hadn't been using OPKs this cycle and confirmed the actual O day of CD27 or so (I thought I had O'd CD16 or so), I would have gone bonkers crazy from CD29-39 thinking I was late too - could this be the case with you??

    @Ambular1025: it's virtually impossible for me to be a control freak, I just have to try to be a bit calmer about things, but that's the best I can do!

  35. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @Chibee: I actually just wrote a post about grief and stress relating to TTC and trying to explain what it's like to people who haven't experienced it on my personal blog. I've had a close friend tell me it was my fault I wasn't pregnant because I didn't know my body well enough. I was so mad!

  36. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    I think there's also the opposite issue - ie people who have tried for SO LONG may forget that it's still stressful for those who are just starting out (ie 'OMG i tried for a year, you've only been trying for a month'). I wonder if your friend was super upset over how long it took her to conceive and that's part of why she's less sensitive to what you're going through?

  37. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Jojogirl: I think you're completely right. She had a really terrible time of it. She had two miscarriages and a chemical pregnancy before she got her sticky. She said she thinks I'm acting crazy using OPKs and stuff when I've only been trying for a month; after 6 months with no success, she'd understand it but not right now. I guess when you've been through all that my worries in cycle 1 seem pretty silly.

    I think, whilst she'd be over the moon for me if I got a BFP first month, there may be a bit of indignation there, too, deep down, that she had to work so hard for it and I got it so easy and after only 5 months of marriage. I think that's how I'd feel if I'm honest.

  38. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @Ali: ahhh. Then while it wasn't what you wanted to hear, her response does make some more sense. She's coming from a compassionate place but all of us sometimes let our own pain/past experiences get in the way

  39. Cherrybee

    papaya / 10570 posts

    @Jojogirl: Yeah, it does make sense. Plus, she was super-calm throughout the process and even took the m/cs totally in her stride. I think it's just safe to say that, until I've had some TTC nightmares (and I hope to God I don't have to go through those experiences) I'll save my ranting and detail-analysing for my bee friends.

  40. JoJoGirl

    cantaloupe / 6206 posts

    @Ali: Even better, you can probably tell her how much more you can empathize with what she went through now than you ever could before.. maybe even bring you guys closer, who knows? It's a tough tough process and people have been through it at least have that in common.

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