Sorry ladies, yesterday was a busy day for me. As I don't see a thread started, here's this week's thread check in backdated to yesterday!
With that in mind, if there was one thing IF related that you could redo, what would it be & why?
Updates?
Sorry ladies, yesterday was a busy day for me. As I don't see a thread started, here's this week's thread check in backdated to yesterday!
With that in mind, if there was one thing IF related that you could redo, what would it be & why?
Updates?
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
If I could redo something I would go to an RE sooner instead of starting our treatments with an urologist.
Yesterday DH and I got our packet from the clinic we are using for embryo adoption. We filled out the paperwork and I have a list of things to do over the next week:
-pick up photos we had printed
-blood work (both of us)
-mail packet back to clinic
-have RE send medical records
-call agencies and find one to do our home study
kiwi / 636 posts
Something IF related I would redo is to have made the appt with my RE earlier so that I would not still be stuck in limbo land. I also would have wanted to start acupuncture earlier.
My only update is that my WTF/IVF consult is on Monday. Getting kinda giddy for that. My cd21 progesterone was 2.5 but I think I ovulated on cd 19 or cd 20. I plan to get lab work done on Monday after my consult as that would be closer to 6dpo. So I'm in the lovely TWW again before my next medicated cycle (either IUI again or IVF).
Good luck to all who are testing this weekend!
pomegranate / 3533 posts
I kind of wish we'd started IVF sooner...but I guess then I might always have wondered about whether it had been truly necessary (it is).
I'm sitting in recovery following my D+C. So far, no bad cramping or pain! Definitely looking forward to getting to eat!
cantaloupe / 6630 posts
@lazypanda: Thanks got starting it!
My update is boring, still waiting for a smiley face on my ovulation sticks.......I hope I get one since I can't do cycle monitoring now my health insurance has ended and have no idea what my ovaries and hormones are doing
Hmmm, I think I would redo my timeline. As in TTC way earlier. I can't wish that too hard though because then maybe I wouldn't have A and I can't imagine her not being my baby.
I hope everyone is having a great week
cantaloupe / 6630 posts
@Leialou: I'm really excited for you, this could be such an amazing journey for you guys!
@lazypanda: Good luck for this TWW
@FliegepilzHut: I'm sorry love.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
@travelgirl1: I hope you get a soon. I hate that you're insurance got cancelled. What a crappy situation. And thank you. I'm getting excited.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
@FliegepilzHut: I'm glad you aren't in any pain.
cantaloupe / 6630 posts
@Leialou: Thank you, it really does suck, I don't want to move back to England and I have no idea how I would get new fertility doctors quickly.... Referrals take time on the NHS.
Yay, I'm glad you're excited. I hope this is the road that takes you to your LO
pomegranate / 3105 posts
I posted my update in the what was your diagnosis thread. My results came in from the RE:
- DH's SA, SCA and bloodwork = fab
- My bloodwork, hormones, ovulating on my own = fab
- I have a partial uterine septum that I need surgery on
Now the waiting begins for a referral to a surgeon. I'm scared of being put under but that's the ONLY thing stopping me from getting KU. The RE suggested trying on our own after I heal. Like @travelgirl1: said - with a national health care system, referrals = waiting a long time. Boo. I'm praying I can get in before the end of the year, I have no idea how long it might take.
If I could change one thing on my journey it would be convincing DH to go get tested earlier, even though he's fine, but we could have been way further ahead.
pomegranate / 3533 posts
@Leialou: Thank you! I'm sure your home study will go very well! I hope you get your match soon!
cantaloupe / 6630 posts
@babycanuck: I'm so pleased you have an answer. That is great news! I know needing surgery isn't fun, but hopefully you'll be on your way to making a baby soon!
pomegranate / 3533 posts
@babycanuck: I've got high hopes for you! FX that you can get your surgery scheduled and get healed up soon!
nectarine / 2192 posts
If I could do something over- probably start trying earlier, though we were doing distance due to DH's job, so that probably wouldn't have been wise. We started trying so that if I conceived immediately, the baby would have been due 2 months before he was able to move back.
Temp is down today at probably 11DPO. I didn't temp so I don't know for sure. I think AF is starting. I will probably be on cycle 18 shortly. I just had acupuncture last month that helped me fix a meridian that involves fertility, so I don't know f that needs more time to work.
I talked to my family doctor who is AWESOME. Since she knows how informed I am and that we don't have any IF coverage, she is willing to do just about anything I want except procedures she isn't trained in. She did labs and all were great, as was DH's SA. She said that I have no risk factors for a tubal blockage. She gave me these options:
1. Go back to progesterone. I have a 10-12 day LP, and did progesterone for 3 months without success, and I didn't like the side effects. If I knew that would work, I would gladly take the side effects.
2. Clomid or femara. We discussed both, but agree that femara would be a better choice for me due to the lower risk of multiples.
3. Femara plus progesterone.
4. Referral for HSG. I am reluctant to do this because if the results are abnormal, the only options as I understand are IVF or surgery. We won't do IVF and I am just starting a new job and REALLY don't want surgery.
My questions for you ladies:
1. What would you do? Should I give more time for acupuncture to work? I am leaning toward 1, 2, or 3 for the next 3 months, and then if no BFP, then bite the bullet and do an HSG.
2. If I'm not doing IUI, does femara require monitoring? Is there a limit of number of femara cycles? If I did 3 cycles now and then an HSG, would I be able to do femara or clomid after that? Are there any serious risks of femara? I saw the study on birth defects, but have seen so many things that say that was a bad study.
I hate the craziness I feel when AF comes.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@AmeliaBedilia: If you want to do things without IF meds, I would wait for the accupunture to work. There's nothing wrong with going without of intervention, if that's what you want.
As for femera, I would recommend monitoring. You could respond really well on femera and ovulate sooner or later. Though maybe you could do just monitoring by OPKs. That's what my old RE did (well they did ultrasounds, too, to check follicles and check my lining). For me, because I have PCOS, being on femera (or any medication), I did have larger follicles that looked like cysts. Luckily, my blood test showed no increase in estrogen so I proceeded with my IUIs. You can get pregnant with a cyst (if it is one) but there's a higher chance in m/c (from what my dr told me.) I was cleared from having a cyst, so they weren't worried. As for femera and all meds, there are side effects that can be rare and severe. (You can probably google it and find the possible side effects.) I didn't have any issues with femera. I was on clomid once and I hated the dizziness I got. Femera does have a risk of birth defects but that's only if you take it while you are pregnant. I took femera on days 3-7 of my cycles so well before I ovulate and no where near my POAS date. Femera, also, gets out of your system fairly quickly so that why it's safe a fertility med, as long as you take it in your early days of your cycle.
Oh, also, meds like Femera and clomid can increase the number of follicles you have. They should monitor this. You might be super sensitive and create 4 follicles like I did last month. My RE was fine with me proceeding with those 4 follicles (because of my history) but I'm not sure if you want to have the risk of multiples.
kiwi / 636 posts
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Mrs. Polish: 6 month wait list for new doctor
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Mrs. Piñata: using some essential oils and Vitex; seeing chiropractor and Naturopath; re-evaluating in Sept/Oct
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TWW
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LindsayInNY: IUI#1
AmeliaBedilia
alohaorchid
lazypanda: unmedicated cycle
Macintosh: IVF w/ICSI
Treatments/Tests/Appointments
Just_Ju: moving onto IVF in August (yay insurance!)
Macintosh: start stims on 8/3, ER 8/14 for IVF with ICSI
babycanuck: waiting for referral for surgery on partial uterine septum
Robyn_ZA: moving onto IVF
Warbler: will be setting up appt with RE for IVF with ICSI
owlteach: RE appt 8/18
Kelli_Deluxe: looking for new RE in AZ
lazypanda: next step/IVF consult with RE 8/18; weekly fertility acupuncture
CupQuakeWalk: IUI at the end of August, TI with Clomid until then
Sunshine1810: started BCP, ER 9/15
sweetooth: will schedule saline sonogram
Leialou: embryo adoption
crystal: going through initial testing phase
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kiwi / 636 posts
@Leialou: yay for the great news. I hope you do get the home study in quickly so that you can be on your way to the transfer!
@FliegepilzHut: I'm happy to hear that you didn't have cramping from the D&C. I hope you are able to get rest this weekend!
@travelgirl1: I hope your ovaries start kicking into gear so that you can be in the TWW soon.
@babycanuck: I hope that you get referred quickly but also hoping that you may not have to have the surgery with a miracle bfp!
@AmeliaBedilia: I would agree with @bluestriped bee: about continuing with the acupuncture if you're not ready to go to the medications. I was backwards in that I started acupuncture when I took a medicated cycle break. I did not always get my perio during my first year of TTC but so far, acupuncture has helped me with ovulating on my own. Or it could also be that my body regulated itself as I had been on medicated cycles for 6 cycles. Everyone is different when it comes to their experience with the varying meds. I took Femara first and it did not work for me (I had anovulatory cycles). 150 mg of clomid with u/s monitoring worked for me but the side effects got progressively worse with each cycle. I would say, make the choice you feel most comfortable with.
@bluestriped bee: I'm glad you got some good information with your WTF/IVF consult. I hope mine goes as well as yours did!
@MrsWin: @Mrs.Pinecone316: @Jenn23: I hope the three of you are ok with me adding your names to the list!
nectarine / 2600 posts
If there's one thing I would re-do, it would to NOT prevent our first year of marriage.
So, if anyone has not seen the the saga of "is it or isn't it" HPT testing on this thread.... http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/trigger-shot-and-hpt-question#post-1819007
To summarize, I tested out the trigger at about 10dpts, and for the last few days there have been some tests with a line on it. This am, no lines, temp drop and bright pink spotting. Pretty sure AF is coming today. That puts me at a LP of 11 days. Not ideal. Once AF shows her face once and for all, I'll email the clinic for an appointment ASAP at the beginning of this week. Since we are leaving for vacation on 9/10, I'm not sure what they will want us to do, since if I get a BFP, I will not find out until we are away, and I will need to get my hands on some heparin, needles, etc.
DH and I had a huge "thing" last night. A big talk with lots of sobbing on my part. Basically I'm just so over life right now. I am not happy living here, and IF has just magnified my depression and unhappiness a million times over. It is very hard for me to accept that they don't know what has caused my issues, I feel like they have not done all they could do here, and I can't help but think that if we lived in the US, we'd have a baby by now. I feel like all of this is preventing me from enjoying anything in life. I don't care about anything, this is all-consuming, and I don't know how to fix it.
Sorry to be such a downer!
Anyway, assuming I'm not pregnant (which I'm 98.5% sure is the case) I'll be getting my tattoo on Thursday. I also want to dye my hair red before we leave on vacation. We are going to Boston and the Cape Cod area for a wedding, then to Mexico, then to Miami for 2 nights, then I'm headed "home" to Cuba one last time, before my parents move to Florida this November. To say I am ready for vacation would be a huge understatement.
coconut / 8475 posts
@TheSwissWifeStyle: *hugs* I am so sorry you're going through this. Without going into too much detail, I want you to know you aren't alone in the feelings of depression and confusing and "what ifs" and the sobbing and arguments with a spouse. I think it is all unfortunate very common with infertility issues:( I hope you enjoy your trip; they sound like a lot of fun and an excellent way to take your mind off things!!!
nectarine / 2192 posts
@TheSwissWifeStyle: bug hugs!
AF started yesterday. We're now on cycle 18. I started getting migraines 2 days after acupuncture, which is why I stopped it last fall. I figured I would try again with a different acupuncturist. I know she has made some progress, but I'm trying to remember that even if everything is "fixed," it can still take a few cycles. That is one of the hard things! DH and I still need to talk about what we will do for this month. I keep thinking that NTNP would be helpful, but I can't seem to do it. I know when I usually O, and I get so disappointed regardless. I am considering telling myself that I can't get pregnant without some medication help, and that this month, we're truly taking a month off. This might be good since I am starting a new job and have some stressful stuff coming up in the next month.
nectarine / 2600 posts
@CupQuakeWalk: @AmeliaBedilia: Thanks!
ETA: AF is officially here I think. Requested an appointment for Monday.
kiwi / 636 posts
@TheSwissWifeStyle: No need to apologize. All of us have been there and you have been such a great support when I felt that way! I'm excited for your tattoo appointment and looking forward to seeing the finished product.
@AmeliaBedilia: I'm sorry about AF's arrival. Would you NTNP? I hope the break will help you feel rejuvenated for your next step.
@CupQuakeWalk: I hope you are doing well and that things are going well for your IUI cycle! :good luck:
ETA: I think I ovulated twice this cycle! I had several days of positive OPKs and in the middle of those positive OPKs, there were a few days where the line wasn't quite as dark.
nectarine / 2705 posts
@TheSwissWifeStyle: Your feelings are so real, raw and relatable! Big internet hugs to you. It is SO hard not to let infertility and the whole TTC thing take over life. How can it not, you know? You live in 2 week increments and cycle through such high and low emotions. It is HARD. I hope that your time away, and all of the traveling will help you feel rejuvenated. I know this is a crazy question, but is there any chance you can move back to the US? (not that it's the answer at all...just curious...don't answer if you don't want to)
nectarine / 2600 posts
@sweetooth: Thanks Yes, I definitely would not be against it!! Anyone work in Finance? lol
bananas / 9229 posts
First IUI was a fail. Just waiting for AF now and hoping it takes another day or two to arrive so next IUI doesn't conflict with Labor Day weekend. Feeling super pessimistic and "over it" lately... Lately meaning the last 24 hours but still. I need to get out of this funk...
If there was anything I'd redo... I think I would've gone for IF testing right at the year mark instead of a couple months after. It would've moved things up only two months or so but still. I think I was pretty proactive with all the genetic testing being the biggest hurdle we've faced.
coconut / 8475 posts
@LindsayInNY: I commented on the other thread...but I am sorry you're going through this. I know it is just...depressing. It's kind of sick, but I'm glad to hear you say you're pessimistic, only because I am too at this point. Sometimes misery likes company? Especially when not many people can understand.
Can I ask-
what was your iui schedule like? When was O day and wend you start injectables?
I am feeling VERY crappy this week. We basically had no intervention this cycle (except meds) because we were on vacation during the IUI. I needed the trip though, and we did have lots of sex, but still. Regular sex hasn't worked for us before, so I'm not hopeful at all. I'm wishing this cycle away and feeling sh**ty.
nectarine / 2705 posts
I don't know what I would redo...I remember bringing up trying to conceive earlier than we started, and my husband wanted to wait. So maybe if I could have convinced him, I wish we had started sooner and then found out that we would need to go to the RE sooner. That seems to be a theme for a lot of us...getting in to the RE sooner. So for anyone who is just reading along with this thread - make the call. Get an appointment. Start the process sooner.
I have my saline sonogram tomorrow - hopefully that goes well and then I also hope I can knock this terrible cough that I have before I start the IUI process again next month.
@Leialou: Looks like you have a busy week ahead. I'm so glad you're able to jump right in to the process! Good luck with the next steps.
@lazypanda: Good luck with your consult today! And thanks for posting the list and starting the thread
@FliegepilzHut: I hope your recovery is going well and that you had a good, restful weekend.
@travelgirl1: I hope that you get your soon, and that everything works out for the best with your living situation and insurance. I know it must be stressful - but hopefully your little girl is a good distraction
@babycanuck: I hope you are able to get in for your surgery soon and that you and your husband can conceive on your own after that
@AmeliaBedilia: I'm surprised that an HSG is so far down your list. I only say that because it was a part of the regular IF testing before any treatment could begin for me. Even Clomid. The HSG is what revealed that I may have a fibroid or blockage in my uterus and without that knowledge, starting any treatment may have been a waste of time because it could have been what was preventing my success with pregnancy. // If I was starting a new job, I'd probably take a month off just to get settled in and not be worrying about the TTC roller coaster.
@TheSwissWifeStyle: I'll keep my ears open - is Finance what you do? Or is that your husband's line of work?
nectarine / 2705 posts
@LindsayInNY: I posted to your other thread too - but I just wanted to say, be in the funk. It's all part of this crazy process. But know that we're all here for you - in funky times and good times
@CupQuakeWalk: Misery totally loves company! I hope you had a great vacation and that even though regular sex never did the trick before - that maybe it did this cycle! I'm not in the misery of cycling just yet - so I'll be the little positive blue bird saying that MAYBE vacation was magical and you'll get your this cycle! )
persimmon / 1404 posts
@leialou: That’s exciting that you’re starting to really move into embryo adoption now!
@lazypanda: GL today!
@fliegepilzhut: I’m glad you’re feeling ok after your D&C, but I’m sorry you have to go through this *hugs*
@travelgirl1: I hope you see that soon!
@babycanuck: GL with finding a surgeon to go forward with the surgery, I hope it doesn’t take too long
@ameliabedilia: Sorry to hear that AF showed up Your doctor sounds a lot like mine, he knows my resistance to the fertility clinic so he’s basically doing as much as he can for me through his clinic, which really just stops at actual fertility treatments. If I was in your situation I would probably go with #1. It doesn’t hurt to see if it will hurt and if not, the next 3 months will go by fast. GL with whatever you decide
@theswisswifestyle: *hugs* I’m sorry! Those days are the worst. I hope you’re feeling at least a little bit better now. It does sound like you have an exciting year ahead of you, which is an awesome thing to focus on!
@lindsayinny: So sorry that this IUI didn’t work
@sweetooth: GL with your sonogram tomorrow
I'm not sure if I would do anything different. I would probably have gone for tests sooner so that I know what we are up against but for right now, I'm ok with where we are at with IF.
AFM, I'm coming to the end of my TWW... it's been a weird one! I have had horrible heartburn, which I NEVER get, mixed with a whole bunch of weird symptoms. I'm pretty sure it's all related to the chemical last month and I can say I can't wait for my period to get here so that my body can "reset" itself.
pomegranate / 3809 posts
If I had to redo anything, of course I'd just start trying earlier. Maybe not waited that 15 months after getting married to start. But we waited for a reason (DH wasn't quite ready, and we had amazing trips planned) so I can't exactly say I regret it either. I like to think that given the same information I had at the time, I'd make the same decisions because that was what was the best decision, so ultimately, we can't say could/should/would have.
IF updates, I'll be starting stims this weekend or early next week. Need to call the doc to get a schedule nailed down.
bananas / 9229 posts
@CupQuakeWalk: I hate being pessimistic because I feel like it's never a good mentality to have during TTC but still... I like/need to wallow in my sorrows for a couple days (on and off) before picking myself up and moving on. I do want to ask my RE about changes for next cycle/IUI, if possible... This is the second time I've taken Clomid CD4-9 (no IUI the first time) and naturally started to surge on my own on CD15. I have Ovidrel (trigger shot) at home but have never gotten/needed to use it. I want to ask about that for next IUI though, in case it makes a difference? I didn't OPK this time but IUI was CD16 which is likely when I Oed (confirmed by OPK last Clomid cycle). If that plays out this cycle, there's a good chance Labor Day weekend could mess things up. I'm praying AF waits a day or two before starting...
@sweetooth: Thank you I bought gummy bears this morning to make myself feel better, LOL!
kiwi / 636 posts
@LindsayInNY: I'm sorry. I do hope timing works out for you so that the next cycle falls in line with your schedule & doesn't ruin plans you've already made. Wallow as much as you need. It's a difficult situation to be in & I'm glad you were able to let it out during your spin class.
I guess when I came up with the question regarding what you would re-do, it was to see what people wish they had done sooner or later as hindsight is 20/20. For me, right now, I feel like I'm stuck in limbo. Part of me wants to have that take home baby sooner, since we've waited for so long (though I know my journey is shorter than others). It's sad when I see friends' babies who are getting ready to celebrate their first birthdays. It's a very sobering & sad reminder of our struggles to conceive. I guess my question for myself is what is the best next step for me. Will I regret having tried 4 more IUIs or will I be happy that diving into IVF may give me my take home baby. And the bigger thing, am I strong enough to go through all the meds & appointments (for both IUI & IVF).
coconut / 8475 posts
@LindsayInNY: the reason I ask is because when we had our IUI planning meeting, he told us we would be Clomid 1-5 and injectible from 6-8. Then we would get a BUNCH of follicles and we would wait to see which stayed around until CD14 (at which point we would trigger if necessary). And all the while, he has me on Estrodial (sp?) to thicken my lining. So, I just wanted to see how our schedules compared. It seems like a ton of meds, but I just roll with the punches now. Waiting to start that iui in a few days (I think AF is due Thursday but, I didn't track this month so who knows...)
bananas / 9229 posts
@lazypanda: No AF yet so that's helping... As long as AF holds off until at least tomorrow, we should clear Labor Day weekend and possibly save us the costs of one day of monitoring!
@CupQuakeWalk: I did ask at one of my monitoring appointments this past cycle about what happens when/if I naturally surge on my own. I didn't really get a direct answer though... Whenever I go in on CD3 this cycle, I want to ask again and see if something else can be added treatment-wise to approach things as aggressively as possible. I try to ask at the monitoring u/s how things look but don't get specific responses. Sometimes they'll mention follicle sizes but not how my lining or anything looks. I would rather more meds and whatnot at this point... Remind me again, will this be your first IUI and do you have a diagnosis?
kiwi / 636 posts
I had my WTF/IVF consult today & I'm feeling a little hopeful. RE thinks I have a really great chance with IUI as I did respond on the first try. He also told me to gain weight because my BMI is too low. He said the easiest thing would be to eat extra scoops of ice cream. He also gave us the option of trying Letrozole again, but this time the highest dose for 10 days rather than 5. DH & I decided that we'll continue with the IUI, stay with acupuncture so we will feel good that we've tried all we could. I ran this info by my acupuncturist & she actually said ice cream is not good for those trying to conceive as the womb needs to be nice and warm so it's inviting for implantation. She said I should eat natural fats like an avocado a day, nuts, coconut oil, and organic butter. She also recommended another vitamin supplement as well as supplements for DH. So it looks like I'll be on the IUI boat for 4 more cycles unless DH's Kruger testing indicates we would have to go straight to IVF.
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
@lazypanda: I'm surprised a doctor would tell you to gain weight by eating ice cream. That's not the healthiest way to go about it!
kiwi / 636 posts
@Leialou: I think it's because I'm relatively healthy (but skinny) already so he said having additional scoops of ice cream in my diet should give me the additional calories & lbs. I checked my email as he had provided a lot of info for me to digest yesterday. & thankfully he had written the information out as I had asked. He had also suggested that I look at healthier ways of adding to my diet & referred me to a nutritionist. But basically I need to gain 5-10 lbs.
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