hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@spaniellove: yay about your trigger and the ER! Sorry about your current clinic. Have you found another clinic?
honeydew / 7916 posts
@bluestriped bee: It's the clinic I've canceled on twice now (so hopefully they'd actually be willing to give me an appt again). I just kept not wanting to go because it's the place that killed a woman at her ER. The 2nd time I made an appt with them they lied to me about the fact that their office near me was destroyed by a fire and wanted me to drive to another state - I only knew because I live by the office and could see it. It's just that apparently this dr is so good with situations like mine that women come to him from all over the country...but honestly I don't even know if I'd ever go through IVF again. It's so much money, and I can't even think about starting over with the injections. Hopefully this cycle works, and I never have to make that choice.
apricot / 460 posts
@sweetooth: That stinks! I think we can all agree that we've had those dreams of how wonderful it's going to be when we get to see that Positive stick. I know I have! Pretty much every month Hang in there girlie!
@spaniellove: Ugh. I'm really sorry to hear about your u/s but that is awesome that you got some great ER news shortly after! I'll be hoping that you don't even have to think about a 'next time' Fingers crossed!!
AFM, just waiting on AF. I'm trying to not symptom spot at all. I have tender BBs but that is pretty normal for me. No other symptoms. I did temp this morning and it could go either way. But I'm guessing it's a decline. We're suppose to get nailed with like 17-24 inches of snow this week. Now I'm just praying it doesn't fall when I need to do my CD 3 blood draw! Did you girls have to have yours drawn in the morning or does it matter? I'm just thinking if it was anytime, if there was a BUNCH of snow, that would help. If it's first thing in the morning.....
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
@spaniellove: good luck with your ER. I hope they get lots of eggs! I be sending lots of positive thoughts your way on Wednesday.
pomelo / 5041 posts
@spaniellove: Wishing you nothing but great luck at your ER on Wednesday! I hope you never have to do those stupid injections again.
@bluestripedbee: Sorry about the BFN! Keep testing until AF shows.
@mrs.vw: My blood draws always happened to be in the morning, but I think it will depend on if they have a lab in house where the labs are done or if they need to send any of your cd3 labs out. Usually if they have to send a lab out they prefer to do it in the morning. I'd call your office and just ask the question, "if snow prevents me from getting in for my cd3 bw in the morning, can I reschedule for the afternoon". It should be easy for them to answer.
nectarine / 2705 posts
It's confirmed - just got the call - I guess the blood tests don't lie. On to IUI #3. Does anyone else who has never gotten pregnant wonder if it will ever happen? I guess we'll get more aggressive this time and hope for more follicles. Now I wait for good ol' AF and drink all of the beverages I have been depriving myself of. Yummy dinner plans tonight make up for the confirmed negative.
nectarine / 2705 posts
@spaniellove: SO excited for you I hope everything works out and you don't have to do any more treatments ever. You just get the one baby you want and life is good!
@Mrs.VW: My blood draws are usually always in the morning, first thing. Maybe if the CD3 morning is filled with snow, you can push it to CD4? Hopefully the weather isn't too crazy.
nectarine / 2705 posts
@bluestriped bee: TWW buddy - I'm still rooting for you!
@justdarling: How are you doing?
apricot / 460 posts
@sweetooth: Dang it! I'm sorry! Are they able to increase your injectables at all to help? Did you have good sized follicles at the time of IUI? Definitely treat yourself to beverages! Thanks for the advice about the blood draw. I'm guessing it will in the morning I feel like thinking - knowing my luck, it will be the snowstorm day! - but I'm trying to stay positive during our time with the RE.
@marionberry: Thanks! Yes, I could always do that! Thankfully we have a subaru outback that gets around pretty good in the snow - I can always hope for the best!
pomelo / 5228 posts
@spaniellove: Ugh, can't believe you had to go through that ultrasound torture. I really hope this cycle ends with happy news, you deserve it!
@bluestriped bee: Its still early, hang in there!
@sweetooth: Sorry it didn't work this time Hope you enjoy your evening!
As for me, I'm just waiting for a positive OPK, should be today or tomorrow! Looking forward to being in the TWW.
Did you all see Mrs. Train's post today on the blog? Definitely hit home and made me teary. I hope I can look back in a few years and feel the same way.
grapefruit / 4703 posts
@Mrs.Someone: I loved that blog post! Totally helps to hear from someone far on the other side (4 kids later!)
IF ladies, I need some advice. Just a little background, I had CD 3/CD 21 BW done a while ago through my CNM/GYN practice and found out I had hypothyroidism and very low progesterone, but everything else looked good. They referred me to an endo and got me on thyroid meds with the instructions to redo all the BW again once my thyroid was in check and make another appointment.
Well now it's about that time, and I'm feeling like it's a waste of my time. We've been trying for almost 11 months now, so my insurance will cover IF treatments starting in April. I know which fertility center I want to go to, so should I just make an appointment and bypass all the follow ups with the CNM/GYN? I'm going to need a referral from my PCP anyway (not the GYN), and won't the RE want me to redo all the BW as a first step anyway?
pomelo / 5228 posts
@Shutterbug: I think that depends. Is your thyroid at a good level yet (I was told TSH between 1 and 2)? I think its an important thing to continue working on, even if you go ahead and make an appointment at the clinic for April.
coconut / 8472 posts
@Shutterbug: I would just start seeing an RE. I think it would be more efficient and RE's are more equipped to monitor your cycle. I'm not sure how other RE's work, but every cycle I have BW done on CD3 (and ultrasound). The first cycle was an insane amount, and I'd already had some done through my GYN. But generally they're probably going to take at least 1 vial anyways on CD3.
grapefruit / 4703 posts
@Mrs.Someone: I'm still working on getting my thyroid levels high enough, but I don't know if it's there yet - my next check is in two weeks. I agree that I need to get that in the right range before I get pregnant. Hopefully by the time I go to the RE it'll be there!
@MrsCB: I agree with the RE being more efficient. I also don't know if maybe they could/would handle my thyroid monitoring (since they are endocrinologists, after all) which would make it even more efficient.
Thank you both for your advice!
blogger / wonderful cherry / 21628 posts
The nurse at my RE's office called today and said they have the results of my latest blood work and to make an appointment to go over the results and have another ultrasound. I thought I was supposed to have a CD 3 blood draw and HSG before going for a follow up appointment. That's what they told me on my last visit. I mentioned that to the nurse and she said to go ahead and come in. So we have an appointment for tomorrow morning. I can't help but wonder what made them change their mind. I keep thinking something wasn't right with my blood work.
honeydew / 7916 posts
@Leialou: Those unexpected calls are scary - it's good that they're getting you in right away so you don't have to spend too much time worrying about it. What bloodwork have you already had done if you haven't done the CD3 yet? I hope the appointment goes well!
pomelo / 5041 posts
@Shutterbug: Since you have to wait until April, I'd say go ahead and do the follow up appt to check your thyroid with the GYN in the meantime. At the same time, get your referral from your PCP to the RE's office. Usually (although not always in my case) it takes about a month to be seen for your first visit. Yes you may end up redoing some blood testing, but sometimes they'll just use your old numbers. I would think they'd trust a recent TSH test and not run another one since TSH doesn't change very quickly. Just my two cents.
Also, I do think the REs manage the thyroid stuff well. My RE tested it, saw it was 2.9, wanted me to give it a month and retest, saw it was 2.59, put me on meds and will retest me next week to see what it has gone down to. All the while I've been pregnant. He has never seemed concerned, just wants me below 2.5 for pregnancy and I don't think even though I'm supposed to get discharged from the practice after my ultrasound that he will discharge me until my thyroid is in check. Or else he may tell me to tell my OB that I need monthly thyroid checks until under that level. I completely trust my thyroid in his care.
apricot / 452 posts
@spaniellove: good luck on the ER on Wednesday!
@sweetooth: so sorry about the blood tests. I took a hpt on Saturday and it was negative. I guess this month was not my month. I grieved this on Saturday and then went out and got drunk! Not the healthiest thing to do, but it felt good! I've missed good wine! We plan to take this month off. DH needs to go to the urologist. After he does that we will figure out where to go from there. It's looking like IVF, but if the urologist can fix something with DH'S, then maybe not. My plan right now is to enjoy this next month. We have already planned a wine tasting weekend for my birthday next weekend!
@Leialou: I hate the change in plans and the appointment that follows! Hopefully it turns out ok.
grapefruit / 4703 posts
@marionberry: Thank you! I actually go to an endocrinologist (not a reproductive one, haha, just regular) for my thyroid, so I'll continue with that for sure between now and April. I think I'm gonna call my PCP and the RE this week to get something set up. Phew, moving forward!
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
Need to catch up on today's comments but I just have to say that I have (sorry TMI) a lot of CM. I need POAS when I get home. I did test this morning and BFN. Today I am 12 DPO.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@marionberry: Ugh, I don't have to pee. Guess I have to wait til the morning.
Something I just thought of, I had a serious talk my dog last night. I asked her if she would give me her mommy genes. I didn't cry but it was a serious and hopeful talk. She was spade before I got her. Oh, the crazy things we do because of infertility.
nectarine / 2705 posts
@Mrs.VW: I will definitely be looking into the changes I can make this time around. I never even made it to injectibles last cycle because I already had a mature follicle at CD9. I feel like Clomid is making me ovulate much earlier than I normally did.
@Mrs.Someone: Thank you I did enjoy my evening, so much that I passed out on the couch. It was heavenly
@Shutterbug: I just wanted to weigh in on your situation. I had CD3 bloodwork taken care of with my GYN prior to starting up with the RE. It was probably 2 months before my first RE appointment, and it was helpful to already have that information. It made for a more educated discussion. So I recommend getting that bloodwork done and also going ahead and setting up that RE appointment.
nectarine / 2705 posts
@Leialou: Those type of phone calls definitely send your mind into overdrive. I hope everything is ok. Good luck with your appointment today.
@justdarling: Sorry to hear that your test was negative too. I grieved on Saturday as well, when I took my first test at home. And then again last night when it was confirmed with the bloodwork. I also got a pretty good buzz last night and was stuffed to the gills with delicious, indulgent food I'm glad you found a way to have some fun, and I think your plans for a break from it all sound great. We have some plans in April, so that will probably be a break for us if #3 doesn't work. Happy early birthday to you
@bluestriped bee: any good news to share?
cherry / 132 posts
@shutterbug I too am anxious to see an RE and contacted the clinic where my husband had his SA done. Basically they told me my insurance wouldn't cover an appointment until I had been officially trying for one year, I had CD3 blood work , and my husband had to have SA done. I also needed a referral from my GYn. You should call the clinic and see what they say as far as tests and insurance goes. Even though we are not ready to set up our first RE appointment I was really glad I called because I got a lot of info. just from the phone and they were so nice that when it is time I know exactly who I want to go to.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@sweetooth: POAS this morning... BFN. I'm 13 DPO.
Ugh!
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
So I'm still a little hopeful, there has been instances of people getting BFN on 13 DPO and then getting a BFP later.
Crossing my fingers I still have a chance!
coconut / 8472 posts
@bluestriped bee: I read something really interesting last week about this. The average day of implantation is 9DPO, but possible up to 12DPO. So depending on the sensitivity of the test, you may not see a positive until 13DPO or later.
Check out the info below. If implantation day is 9DPO and you use a FRER with a sensitivity of of 25mIU, you wouldn't see a positive until Day 5/13DPO. And 9DPO is just the average!
HCG Levels by day:
Day 1 (implantation): 0.65 - 0.78 mIU
Day 2: 1.95 - 2.6 mIU
Day 3: 4.55 - 6.13 mIU
Day 4: 10.1 - 13.91 mIU
Day 5: 21.19 - 30.03 mIU
Day 6: 44.2 - 60.97 mIU
Day 7: 73.58 - 104.91 mIU.
grapefruit / 4703 posts
@Suzimo: Thanks for the info! I'm definitely going to call them this week and just ask all my questions.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@sweetooth: ugh, hearing about your blood tests makes me want one. Instead of POAS, it would be great to know that it's time to move on.
So how are you doing? You said you were going splurge on some forbidden pregnancy foods if it wasn't your month. What did you have?
nectarine / 2705 posts
@bluestriped bee: hey there - hang in there! Maybe it's still your time I'm still hoping you get a positive tomorrow! I know what you mean about wanting to know for sure though. Any chance you can get in for bloodwork?
I'm doing alright. Trying to just enjoy the break from progesterone, and the time before AF arrives. I know when she's here, it's the whirlwind start to another cycle.
Last night I indulged in a meal that began with mussels. I consider it to be something I would avoid when pregnant, so we began the meal with a yummy pan of a buzillion mussels. We soaked up all of the yummy sauce with crusty french bread. WAY too much bread. Then we moved on to splitting a meatball sandwich on ciabatta bread and a side salad. And then, had the most amazing banana cake layered with ganache, creamy chocolate frosting, and salted caramel drizzled on the plate. Drool. Two glasses of wine each, and we waddled home
More wine tonight, and sushi for lunch tomorrow!
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@sweetooth: OMG, that all sounds amazing!
I could call the Dr but I probably wouldn't get in til tomorrow and I would probably have to pay for it out of pocket.
nectarine / 2705 posts
@bluestriped bee: I'd trade it all for a BFP
So when you don't go in for bloodwork, you just test up until what day? And then stop progesterone and wait for AF? Or are you not on progesterone?
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@sweetooth: Aww, I know.
I test until AF, though I usually stop testing on 14 DPO. Oh, I'm not on progesterone. Remind me what progesterone is for?
nectarine / 2705 posts
@bluestriped bee: I think the progesterone is prescribed after IUI and IVF procedures to help maintain pregnancy, if achieved.
pomelo / 5041 posts
@bluestriped bee: I wasn't on progesterone, but it does help to maintain pregnancies if you have a low progesterone level. Low progesterone is what causes many miscarriages. In fact, after my stepmom did IVF, they realized she probably only needed progesterone through the whole pregnancy and could've skipped IVF. She'd had multiple miscarriages, some well into the second month.
hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts
@sweetooth: @marionberry: Oh, thanks. Hmm, I don't think I need it. I've never had any miscarriages, yet. Plus, I think my day 3 blood work taken when I first started as a patient seemed all normal. I need to check the lab results when I get home to see what they tested for.
honeydew / 7916 posts
@sweetooth: @marionberry: @bluestriped bee: Part of the reason they supplement your progesterone (and estrogen after IVF) is that your body may not produce those hormones normally the way it would after a natural cycle. I had a perfectly fine LP until my IUI with injectibles cycle - when it was only 11 days, so there wasn't even any hope.
pomelo / 5041 posts
@spaniellove: That's really interesting! Who knows what would've happened to mine if I hadn't gotten a BFP but my RE never put me on progesterone. I wonder if that only applies to injectable cycles?
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