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  1. sweetooth

    nectarine / 2705 posts

    @justdarling: I'm sure it's hard to turn off the analyzing even when you're taking a month off. I hope your husband gets answers today that help you both move closer to your BFP.

    @Mrs.Someone: Thanks! I hope that your temperature shift is a good sign for you and that your acupuncturist can provide you more insight today.

  2. spaniellove

    honeydew / 7916 posts

    @tequiero21: It was about $10k for the procedure (including ICSI) and $4-5k for meds? I thought that was about par for the course paying out of pocket. I didn't do Lupron, but I was on high dose stims so I was reordering Menopur every few days which added up!

  3. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @spaniellove: Tomorrow's the big day! What time is your appointment?

  4. tequiero21

    honeydew / 7968 posts

    @spaniellove: oops, thought I read 30k.... 15k sounds about right...

  5. spaniellove

    honeydew / 7916 posts

    @marionberry: Tomorrow at 8am...of course they don't call until the afternoon and I'll just have the whole day to pull my hair out!

    @tequiero21: Ah yeah, 30k was the cost of doing it twice!

  6. tequiero21

    honeydew / 7968 posts

    @spaniellove: I guess since none got frozen you'd have to do it all over again? Well, you got a lot of people here rooting for you! Here's to not having to go thru it again!

  7. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @spaniellove: Hopefully they'll call sooner rather than later. Ours was at 730 and they called by 1130. Try to stay busy at work in the meantime. Praying for great news!

  8. mrs.halfsie

    olive / 63 posts

    @kentuckygirl: that double sucks then! Do you have any fun plans to take your mind off things during your break? I sure hope so!

    @sweetooth: glad someone can empathize I have tried the Circle and Bloom meditations and they're really nice! I haven't listened to them this cycle but I need to.

    I get stuck in this pit of despair during the first week, then when I finally get my hopes up the second week, they get crushed every time! I don't know which part is worse, it just stinks all around I guess!

  9. mrswin

    nectarine / 2433 posts

    Thanks ladies for such a warm welcome.

    @spaniellove: all the best with your beta tomorrow, the waiting is the worst part

    @Mrs.Someone: Good luck, the temp increase sounds promising

    @Happygal: Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you were infirtile.

    @sweetooth: Thanks for understanding. Its hard to not have anyone to talk to IRL and I don't want to put any additional pressure or stress on my DH

  10. singingbee

    pomelo / 5073 posts

    @spaniellove: I'll be watching with "beta-d" breath!!!!!!! Sorry, I just had to do that great pun. Seriously, I'm very excited for you and your DH. Fingers crossed! Y'all are in my prayers and happy thoughts!

  11. Happygal

    pomelo / 5000 posts

    @Mrswin: no apologies needed! I was just explaining why I'm on this thread (I was apprehensive to post here at first b/c I didn't want to seem insensitive). You didn't say anything that offended me at all.

  12. BSB

    hostess / wonderful apple seed / 16729 posts

    Well, here is my update. IUI number 3... (I guess number 4, if I count the IUI that was cancelled two months ago... At this rate, it seems like I'm developing a pattern 1 normal IUI followed by a cancelled IUI then repeat. HAHA.... anyway IUI 3 or 4 was cancelled. I had my day 10 ultrasound and they found a follicle that was about 30mm. Really enlarged. I did notice my AF was really short this time. (There was only 2 days of flow.) I guess I see why. RE thinks it's a follicle from my last cycle. My UT lining was also really thin. Oh, there were two other follicles size 16 and 13mm. Anyway, I'm out this month. They want me to wait for AF and get an ultrasound on day 3 to see if that follicle (or cyst) collapses. Sucks that this is the second time that I'm out before I even get started.

    I'm bummed out by the news but I'm not sad. I wonder if it's a sign telling me I should take this time to get my resume together and start applying to find a new job. I've been somewhat occupied with TWW for last two cycles that I've haven't had much progress on updating my resume. (I'm usually so occupied with symptom spotting or POAS, then AF comes and I have to concentrate on taking meds and scheduling acupuncture and other dr appointments... It's just a vicious TTC cycle.) Maybe this break is what I need to get my job hunting started. I have about 14 days before AF shows. I am really starting to dislike my job. I have this one coworker that I want to strangle! I don't feel appreciated at work. I want to have a family so I'm not going to take complete break. I'm just going to take advantage of this down time.

    Anyway, question for you all. Do you guys count cycles where you don't have TWW. Like cancelled IUIs where meds were taken but for one reason or another Dr didn't want you to go through the IUI or IVF. Like maybe no follicles, too many follicles, possible cysts or DH having trouble making the deposit?? I'm sure there are other reasons, too.

    I don't count them in my TTC journey but I think I should. They are cycles that I was actively TTC. I just don't think it's fair that I (we) try so many things to get pregnant and for one reason or another it's not successful. After going through all of that, we (I) can't add it to my tally of how many TTC cycles I've done. I think I've been stuck at cycle 10 of TTC for at least 3 month because of my two cancelled IUIs. It's just not fair! *in my whiny baby voice* I personally know I'm way past the year mark in TTC but feel weird counting cycles where I don't have a TWW. If I was normal and not dealing with infertility, I'm sure I wouldn't count them.

    On another, note I'm going to be super busy the month of March because of work. I don't know how much I'll be around. Well, now I even wonder if I'll have time to do my resume with the all the work crazyiness. I need to make sure update my resume. Gotta gotta do it.

    I have so much reading to catch up on this thread. I'm sorry, I haven't kept up with everyone. I hope everyone is doing well!

    ETA: Whoah, sorry, super long update. Thanks for reading.

  13. spaniellove

    honeydew / 7916 posts

    Well, the blood is drawn...but I think I know in my heart that I'm out. The lines I had before didn't get darker after the tests I posted; it's almost nonexistent this morning.

    What I need to figure out now is how to make a logical choice about where to do my next/last IVF cycle and what to push for. So I went ahead and made an appointment with the other clinic since I can always cancel it, but their available appointments are always far out.

    The 7 mature follicles I got with my IUI cycle was better than this IVF cycle, with half the stims, and I worry that the high dose they used for IVF ruined the egg quality. As much as I'd like to get a great number that would guarantee having something to freeze, I think getting more than 5 or 7 just doesn't happen with DOR (it's not uncommon to not even make it to retrieval or transfer, I think).

    I told DH that if the beta is negative I want to have clams and linguine with a nice bottle of Sancerre!

  14. singingbee

    pomelo / 5073 posts

    @spaniellove: dislike.

  15. Mrs.Someone

    pomelo / 5228 posts

    Well I guess I'll just add to the disappointing news on here. I got a big temp drop this morning I know I'm not out yet, but its not looking good. I was all excited yesterday because my acupuncturist seemed to be prepping me for the next step.

  16. sweetooth

    nectarine / 2705 posts

    @bluestriped bee: Maybe you're right to take it as a sign that you need to focus on what makes you happy. I'm bummed for you though. As for counting it, or not counting it, there are no rules. I think we should all just let go of how long it's taking, and just focus on each day. I know I'm tired of the calendar months adding up. Busy is good, but definitely make time to get your resume in order. Maybe make the original TWW a two week deadline for your resume. Hugs! I'll miss you TWW buddy!

  17. ShootingStar

    coconut / 8472 posts

    @mrswin: Welcome :).

    @bluestriped bee: I'm really sorry things aren't working out for you :(. I totally empathize, as I've only ovulated 3 times in 10 months. One thing I've learned this past year from losing my job and TTCing with no luck, is that you should never put things off on the chance something else might happen. If you want to look for a new job, I would absolutely update your resume and start applying. Or, start posting it on sites like Monster and Indeed. I get a ton of calls from recruiters that find my resume on those sites.

    @spaniellove: I was hoping to see an update from you this morning, I really hope you get good news later today. I'm so sorry if it doesn't work out :(. I think you're doing the right thing though in seeing another clinic. I don't think your current doctors have done a very good job in getting the right protocol for you. I know it's a little bit of a step backwards, but maybe with a new clinic you could do another IUI after explaining the issues with your cervix? That way you could see how they do getting you to respond (like another IVF practice), and it's not as expensive as doing another IVF. And maybe with good catheter placement, it would be successful for you. I would hate to see you have to give up so soon when it shows how much you want a family.

    AFM, I'm hanging out at 3DPO. Every time I think about when I should test, it gets a little earlier. Last month I either had a CP or (more likely) was still picking up the trigger until 12DPO (14DPT! >:( ). I don't want to get my hopes up too soon by seeing the trigger, but I know that this time if I'm going to test before the beta I need to do it for multiple days to see the progression, not just whether there's a line. DH and I are so hopeful for this cycle. Everything finally went well - I had two eggs, I ovulated in a normal time frame (instead of at CD28) and DH said this time just felt different to him. It's going to be heartbreaking if it didn't work. Plus I find out just a few days before my 35th birthday.

    On top of that, things have been a real struggle lately and some good news would really be welcome. I've mentioned it before, but I was laid off in October. I work in a very specialized and highly competitive field and I've had no luck getting another job. I keep getting to the interview stage, and they always choose someone else. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong :(. I now have to expand my search into Boston/Cambridge which means drive to the commuter rail, then take the train, then the subway. So I'm looking at 1.5 hour commute :-S.

    Financially we're fine with me not working for a while, but I feel kind of pointless without a job. I feel like so much of my life is in limbo. I have no idea what the rest of this year will look like. *sigh* okay, enough complaining from me. Back to IF talk.

  18. sweetooth

    nectarine / 2705 posts

    @spaniellove: I think making an appointment at the other clinic was a good move. It can be hard to get on the schedule for some doctors. But for now, just try to sip on some tea, listen to some good music and have a productive, busy day that flies by. I hope, SOOOO much, that you get a good phone call this afternoon.

  19. spaniellove

    honeydew / 7916 posts

    @MrsCB: Part of my hope in trying the other RE is that we might be able to try something different with IUI. I've heard many stories where he's been successful with IUI instead of IVF because he's much more experimental. It was ruled out for us in the beginning because of MFI, but now that we know the motility is fine, we'd like to try it again. I also want to talk to him about immunity since I think he's much more likely to test and treat for that. The anesthesiologist at my egg retrieval commented that he'd never seen a patient with as many (confirmed) allergies as I had...and part of me wonders if I only got close this time because I was on Medrol.

    If you know you'll want to test...how would you feel about testing out the trigger? Then you could know for sure what you're seeing.

  20. sweetooth

    nectarine / 2705 posts

    @Mrs.Someone: Temperature drops are the worst. I know temping helps to inform, but I stopped over 5 months ago because I just couldn't handle starting my day off with bad news. I hope that your accupuncturist knows something that your thermometer doesn't

  21. sweetooth

    nectarine / 2705 posts

    @MrsCB: I'm sure you're not doing anything wrong in those interviews. I bet you're knocking it out of the park! Being in a highly specialized and competitive field, makes for a tough interview process. Keep trying! I know it must seem like so much is in limbo right now with the job search and the TTC journey. I'm crossing everything for you that this is your cycle!

  22. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    I feel so bad seeing so many of you in poor spirits. @bluestripedbee: I agree with the others. Focus on whatever makes you happy and count as many cycles as you want (I'd count them all personally). @spaniellove: No matter what happens today you will have a baby one day. I just know it! You're not out yet though. So hopefully you get some great news today. I wish I could be there to give you a big hug either way.

  23. sweetooth

    nectarine / 2705 posts

    I'm trying to stay calm today. It's currently snowing outside. The day before my 3rd IUI is scheduled, we get a snowstorm. I'm fine with the white fluffy stuff, as long as the roads stay clear and doctor's offices stay open. I did NOT stick myself in the tummy for 10 days to have this thing cancelled because of mother nature. That would be SO cruel of you mother nature, you hear me?? (yes, I'm talking to mother nature via Hellobee

  24. ShootingStar

    coconut / 8472 posts

    @spaniellove: Oh good, I'm glad you guys have some ideas about next steps. Of course I hope you don't need them, but I know for myself it makes me feel calmer to have a back up plan in place. I think I will test out the trigger, to avoid what happened last month. And there's no way I can wait until the beta. I'm thinking I'll start on CD6 - it's early enough that I'll know what I'm seeing is the trigger (and not get too excited), but it's close enough to the timeframe when a real positive might start showing up.

  25. spaniellove

    honeydew / 7916 posts

    @sweetooth: Thank you It finally occurred to me this morning that it's March! Which means that it's my birthday month. I have a tradition every year that I go all out for my birthday month, the whole month!

    My friends started the tradition my senior year of HS, when I was deeply depressed. The morning I came to school and decided to talk to a counselor about how suicidal I was, she told me that my classmate had killed herself that weekend. That was my wake up call, so March has always been about celebrating that I'm still alive.

  26. ShootingStar

    coconut / 8472 posts

    @sweetooth: Aww, thanks. Logically I know it's probably nothing to do with me, it's just frustrating when there's always a better candidate out there. Does your clinic close during a snow storm? I just saw posted in mine last time that they don't ever close. They were even advising people to stay in a hotel nearby that they had a deal with. Would something like that be a possibility?

  27. marionberry

    pomelo / 5041 posts

    @mrs.someone: I'm sorry about the temp drop! Your cycle looked really good this time. It's not over until it's over though.
    @mrscb: I'm sure one of these days you'll get picked first. I absolutely hate interviews and have had a few in the past I know I aced and yet they still pick someone else. Maybe that's fate saying it wasn't the right job yet.
    @sweettooth: Good luck this TWW!

  28. spaniellove

    honeydew / 7916 posts

    @sweetooth: They should be open by tomorrow, right? You certainly did not stick yourself for 10 days for nothing! When was your trigger?

  29. sweetooth

    nectarine / 2705 posts

    @MrsCB: Hmm, I'll check and see. I remember when Hurricane Sandy was rolling through they were doing everything they could for time sensitive procedures. I think I'll see what the accumulation is like by noon and check in with the office. The hotel thing isn't a bad idea...except for adding to the grand tally that fertility is already costing

  30. sweetooth

    nectarine / 2705 posts

    @spaniellove: I triggered last night. And I fell asleep listening to C+B last night I need to stop listening to it at 11pm

    Celebrating your birthday and LIFE all of March is a great idea! I'm sorry about your classmate. Pretty heavy stuff to deal with in high school.

  31. spaniellove

    honeydew / 7916 posts

    They called. It was negative.

  32. sweetooth

    nectarine / 2705 posts

    @spaniellove: No, no, no!

  33. singingbee

    pomelo / 5073 posts

    @spaniellove: NO!!!!!!!!!!

  34. Trailmix

    nectarine / 2152 posts

    @spaniellove: I'm so sorry. I was really hopeful for you. Thinking of you and your husband, I'm sure this is beyond disappointing

  35. Mrs.Someone

    pomelo / 5228 posts

    @spaniellove: so sorry to hear Sometimes I wish we were all in the same city so we could go out and have commiserative drinks together... I hope your birthday festivities brings you happiness!

    @bluestriped bee: sad to hear about another cancelled cycle for you

    We need some good news in here... Anyone? Doesn't have to be baby related...

  36. meganmp

    persimmon / 1420 posts

    @spaniellove: I am so, so so sorry. I know exactly how devastating that call is. Big hugs to you.

  37. Mrs.Someone

    pomelo / 5228 posts

    @sweetooth: I hate temping and always have actually! I only do it because my acupuncturist insists on it (since it gives her so much info). If this cycle truly is a bust, then I think I'm taking next month off from trying so hard, including acupuncture. I do think it helps, but I can't justify continuing to pay for it out of pocket at this point.

  38. MK0180

    kiwi / 545 posts

    Coming out of hiding:

    @spaniellove: Been watching for an update from you. I'm so so sorry :(((

    @sweetooth: I hope the IUI goes on scheduled as planned!

    @MrsCB: I hope you get some good news, too!

    @bluestriped bee: I'm so sorry to hear you are out for another cycle. It royally sucks when there is a hiccup in an already lengthy process. Good luck with your job search!

  39. spaniellove

    honeydew / 7916 posts

    Guys, it's okay. You are all so sweet and thoughtful! The worst part of the call was honestly the pity in the nurse's voice - I knew what she was going to say as soon as she started talking. Right now I just want to focus on fun and happy things and figuring out a plan of action with a clinic! It's actually nice to realize that IVF#2 may not be our one and only chance left if we're open to IUI again with someone who's very analytical and experimental.

  40. justdarling

    apricot / 452 posts

    @bluestriped bee: so sorry that the cycle was canceled. I have been counting the canceled cycles as a cycle, I agree that you should take advantage of this down time and update your resume. I had put off job hunting when we first started TTC, but now realize that I should not have. You can't put your life on hold for this. You need to do what is going to make you happy.

    @MrsCB: I really hope you get a BFP as your b-day present and get the good news that you need!

    @spaniellove: I am so sorry. I was so hopeful that this would work. I think that you have a good plan with the appointment with the other clinic. Enjoy your clams and wine tonight and your birthday month! Big Hugs!

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