honeydew / 7283 posts
@mrsbookworm: @JoJoGirl: DH came home from work one night and I was bouncing on the yoga ball holding the baby and pumping at the same time. Oh, and we were both crying.
I promise you it gets so much better. When I think about her infancy now it's like a fuzzy memory of a nightmare. That sounds horrible, but I would do it over and over again if it meant that I could have THIS child. In the beginning I would have traded her in for a baby who didn't scream all the time. Now I feel like that was just what I had to go through to get this independent, spirited, silly, happy girl. I wouldn't trade her for the world, but I seriously get the "standing on a ledge" feeling.
grapefruit / 4681 posts
You probably don't want to hear from me because DS is almost 26 mo and we are still dealing with the screaming, crying, reflux, everything....but various eliminations really helped us!
I started them when DS's was around your LO's age and for each food we identified and eliminated he got a little better. He self weaned at 21 mo and we have been having increased symptoms ever since. An elimination diet is a long road (I ended up going on a TED, down to 3 foods only and when he was 21 mo I was only eating 15 including oils and some baking chemicals) and not saying that would be the major cure for you, but it might be worth looking into with the amount of spit up/vomit you are seeing. I would start with dairy and soy and see how things go (we did dairy, soy, peanut and egg then a week later tree nuts, wheat/gluten, fish and shellfish...later anything else I felt caused symptoms and then the TED, which helped the most). Keep a journal to track symptoms and foods and see if you can make any connections along the way. Good luck and I hope that once she grows out of the "4th trimester" phase things will be smooth sailing for you!
ETA: babywearing was a lifesaver for us! DS hated the swing, car, rocker, stroller etc. We ended up being forced to co-sleep because of his symptoms and he needed to be vertical to get an sleep. He still needs to be at an angle to sleep best. We also found that turning the radio to a good static station at a volume just above his screams helped sooth him in the car. Once he started to calm down the volume could be lowered as he lowered his. The sleep sheep also helped us when shopping.
pomegranate / 3706 posts
@JoJoGirl: The diagnosis Acid Reflux is a red flag for me. Also, what you're describing is vomit, not regular spit up, and my baby did that, too. She would vomit multiple times per day and soak us both. Have you looked into tongue tie? It's kind of a misnomer because it really just means the tongue is sort of "anchored" to the bottom of the mouth and can't form a proper latch.
My LO screamed for the first 6 months of her life, straight. Wouldn't nurse without kicking and screaming, arching, biting and flailing, wouldn't sleep unless I held her--seriously had to hold her all day long. Rocked, walked, bounced, and cried with her because she just wouldn't stop. No swing or bouncer worked; it was miserable. I got a bathroom break when my husband came home at lunch or I had to try and balance her on my lap because even being put down for a second caused inconsolable screaming. She was looked at by 2 LCs and 3 pediatricians who all said it was acid reflux, and she was put on medication. After months on Zantac, nothing changed and one day, at 5 months old, she flat out refused to nurse. At all. I did my own research, found information about tongue tie, and started crying. I knew that was it, because I fit every single symptom as a breastfeeding mother, and she fit every single symptom as a colicky, "refluxy" baby.
We rushed her to our pediatrician who told us that she didn't have a tongue tie, and that her upper lip tie shouldn't cause problems, but I knew in my heart she was tongue-tied, and had read that certain tongue ties are hard to diagnose, so I found a specialist and drove her the hour there. Sure enough, she was diagnosed with a class 4 posterior tongue tie and an upper lip tie. IF they even diagnose it properly, some pediatricians will tell you that ties shouldn't affect feeding--that is old information and completely untrue. We had her ties revised and I'm telling you that very same day, the multiple vomits per day completely stopped (and haven't returned, she's 14 months old), she nursed calmly and willingly, she stopped---finally stopped---the screaming, and she slept. My God, she slept alone, and willingly. She also went from nursing every 1.5 hours to every 3, because she was finally able to get enough down, and keep it down. My entire family marveled at what a different baby she had become overnight. She was all of a sudden happy, settled, smiley and content.
I'm telling you, it changed our lives and I urge you to have it checked--it's super common and many, MANY babies diagnosed with "acid reflux" actually have a tongue tie causing them to swallow air while they feed, and the acid reflux and terrible gas are secondary issues. You can read a ton of great info at kiddsteeth.com, in the articles section. It's a website by Dr. Kotlow, who is kind of the leading authority on the issue. Here's a great one about reflux and colic caused by TT and LT: http://kiddsteeth.com/articles/aerophagia_2011.pdf
I feel your pain, mama. Big hugs and I hope the incessant screaming calms soon.
pear / 1823 posts
@mrsf: Thanks for relating your experience. I keep saying to myself that this is only a small fraction of his life, I can get through it! Hearing you say that about your daughter definitely helps.
grapefruit / 4819 posts
Another one here saying Probiotics!!!!! LO had such bad gas troubles as a newborn and we took her to the midwife for gas drops, but the midwife said we could treat the symptoms and use gas drops, or we could treat the cause and use probiotics. We started using probiotics and it was a night and day switch. I swear by them..... She still spit up all the time, but it never bothered her and I would much rather have a laundry problem than a screaming baby.
cantaloupe / 6206 posts
Thanks so much to everyone for their responses!!
Update: so I posted this thread after LO had gone from fussy to hellishly fussy on Thursday to OMG SCREAMING ALL DAY AND NIGHT Monday. She hasn't slept at ALL for 3 nights in a row because she's been screaming and not really eating either, which is even worse than her normal fussiness a week ago. I called the ped (again) today to ask about probiotics after reading some of your responses (we tried gripe water, colic calm, gas drops, heat, etc to no avail) - and when I said she went from normal fussy/screaming during the day to screaming all night too and not eating, they said bring her in.
Well. She has 1) an ear infection (?!) and 2) a possible chocolate sensitivity..which she said is common??? She asked me if I'd eaten any, and I realized I baked cookies Wednesday for DH and then more for him for Father's Day on Sunday (and of course ate them all), so her going from annoying to bad Thursday and bad to unreasonable Monday may have something to do with my chocolate intake. She's asking me to be off dairy as well for the time being. She's on formula and antibiotics for now and we go back tomorrow to see how today and tonight go with her off breastmilk. I'm pumping and dumping today (sob) and we'll see how she does. Poor baby is SO HUNGRY AND EXHAUSTED she gulped down like 3 oz of formula in the doctor's office and then promptly fell fast asleep.
Not sure if cutting chocolate will be worth it, though
honeydew / 7687 posts
@erinpye: you should write a blog post about that! so glad you found an answer and could advocate for your LO, but sorry you both had to suffer that long
@JoJoGirl: My LO had a marked sensitivity to chocolate and all dairy, even butter in baked goods (but not soy). It caused him to be reflux-y and woke him up. I cut all that and did the probiotic drops (from Walgreens) and it made a HUGE difference. I waited until he was 6 months and now dairy/chocolate is a non-issue.
wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts
@JoJoGirl: Oh my goodness!!! Well, I'm glad you got some answers, but a chocolate sensitivity! Yikes!!! I don't know about you girl, but I think if I had to restrict my diet for my LO, I'd just switch to formula! Pumping and dumping sounds so depressing! *hug* But glad to hear that your LO finally ate something and was able to sleep!!! Yay!!
GOLD / wonderful coconut / 33402 posts
@JoJoGirl: So glad that you got some answers. Poor baby JoJo!! And Mom and Dad. I hope yall all get some sleep tonight. Chocolate would be so hard to give up.
cantaloupe / 6206 posts
Thanks all, and yes don't know if chocolate or dairy is going to be harder I'm not convinced it's the dairy but I guess we'll see how she does in a few days!
GOLD / pomelo / 5737 posts
@JoJoGirl: Hang in there! If it is a feeding issue, you may have a ton of relief headed your way!
cantaloupe / 6206 posts
@scg00387: How long after you cut dairy did you see a difference? I am reading it can take 2-3 weeks for dairy protein to get out of your system??
honeydew / 7687 posts
@JoJoGirl: I personally saw a difference within 2-3 days - but he wasn't having violent reactions like I know lots of babies do so I don't think it was a severe sensitivity. I tried reluctantly at first and just eliminated cheese/milk/ice cream but didn't pay attention to butter in stuff and saw zero change. I gave up, and after another week of tears, tried again whole-heartedly and saw a marked difference within those 2-3 days.
hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts
@JoJoGirl: I saw a difference in a few days, but it was also right when he turned 8 weeks. I cut out dairy b/c of blood in stool though, not necessarily fussiness.
honeydew / 7283 posts
@JoJoGirl: I'm assuming she's on a hypoallergenic formula? When we started M on Nutramigen we had a huge improvement. It's hard for me to remember how long, maybe 4-5 days? I hope you're both feeling better!
hostess / wonderful grape / 20803 posts
@JoJoGirl: I second the Nutramigen recommendation. My son really thrived on that, if you need to feed her some formula while you get the dairy out of your system.
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