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Long Vent: Hubby as reneged on our plan for a second baby! agonizing!

  1. Maysprout

    grapefruit / 4800 posts

    I think you guys have a lot to talk about on both sides.

    Even though I want 3 kids, when my husband brought up a 2nd right after we brought LO home I thought I was going to punch him. 12 weeks isn't much time for adjustment so he's probably still adjusting.

    I don't think working out 3 days a week is unreasonable, both me and my husband manage to work out most days (he's a cyclist too) even though he works long hours.

    I'd keep the SAHM conversation open, he may be feeling financial pressure of having 2 or more kids on just his salary.

    Does he have an indoor bicycle trainer? That helps so much in the winter. I have pictures of LO in her reclining high chair and DH giving her a bottle while he rides on the trainer.

  2. Mr. Jacks

    olive / 55 posts

    I just want to give my perspective as the younger man in an age gap relationship. I am 30 now and my spouse is 41. We were married when she was 38 (I was 27) and got pregnant soon after. When Little Jacks came along, Mrs. Jacks was in between jobs and had 4 months before starting her new position. On top of it all we made a move half way across the country. Needless to say we were both under a considerable amount of stress. On top of it all I was going to continue working for the same company but from home.

    I do have to say that by the time we moved, I did not have a strong bond with Little Jacks. This was due to the fact that I had been working long hours before the move and Mrs. Jacks was breast feeding so I did not get to spend a ton of quality time with Little Jacks. But once we moved and our roles switched, I bonded with our little girl quite quickly. I am not sure that would have happened if I was not able to spend so much time with her, but this also did not even start till she was about four months old and lasted till she was 2 years old. And if you had asked me during that first 6-9 months if we were going to have a second, I would have told you absolutely not.

    There are so many little things that one does not think about before having kids. For us it was things like going out to the bars, having a beer, and shooting some darts. Our Friday nights have forever changed to having dinner at home, maybe with a glass of wine, and listening to the radio… Seems a bit boring, but we enjoy it, but it was quite the change up for us. I could see how that would be harder for some than others.

    Another thing I would like to mention is that men have been known to suffer from postpartum depression as well. I would highly recommend the same as many here have already recommended—seeing a counselor. There may be more issues here than you may think. You may see him as being selfish, but it may also be a coping mechanism. But if he is like most guys I know, he uses his bike to blow off steam and will most likely come around if he is given some time. I was still in shock for at least 6 months after Little Jacks came into our lives, and Mrs. Jacks thinks I took to being a dad like a fish to water!

  3. travelgirl1

    cantaloupe / 6630 posts

    I'm so sorry you're going through this. I hope you guys can work it out so you're both happy, it's such a shame you've got all this extra stress during your little boy's first few months. Hugs.

  4. junebugmama

    nectarine / 2019 posts

    @Mrs. Jacks: I'm with you.

  5. lemondrop

    bananas / 9118 posts

    Big hugs!

    A new baby is a huge adjustment for everyone, I know my husband has felt neglected and left out of the new "club" that our son and I share multiple times during the past year. There are also times when I resented the hell out of him while he was snoring away and I was rocking a fussy baby.

    At 12 weeks pp, neither of us were ready to discuss baby #2, we only just brought it up for discussion at 10 months, feeling like it is something our relationship can handle at this point. I do try to have one night a week that I ignore chores, work, get the baby to bed as soon as possible and we open a bottle of wine and have some grown up time to re-bond as a couple.

    One thing that I found works for us, I went back to work one day a week on my husband's weekday off. This gives me a grown up day and them a boy's bonding day- they have good days full of giggles (today) and they have bad days full of tears on both sides(last Wednesday). He definitely appreciates the things I do while he is at work that much more. He also gets the chance to bond, which really started after 6 months when the baby got more interactive.

    I know this may not be possible for a full day with his work and racing schedule, but even you getting away for a few hours getting groceries or taking a break. One thing my husband liked was that he could spend time with the baby and figure things out on his own and not have me jump in at every cry and fuss.

  6. London Mama

    apricot / 475 posts

    My heart ached reading your post, sometimes life just isn't fair. The one thing that struck me is that it almost sounds like your DH has postnatal depression. PPD isn't just for mothers but many men get depressed and struggle with how dramatically their lives change.

    I'm not making excuses for your DH but give yourselves some time, wait ntil Tor is at least 6 months and then reevaluate. Until he, hang in there and enjoy your little boy

  7. sea_bass

    kiwi / 542 posts

    I am so so sorry. Reading this filled me with so much sorrow for you.

    People may say you have plenty of time but choosing when you have a child is really a truly personal decision based on what you are comfortable with.

    I have PCOS and was really open with my now DH that I wanted to have kids ASAP and more than one. I explained my reasoning and he has really understood where I am coming from regarding reduced fertility and complications that rise with age.

    He also knows that having once child is something I would never be ok with. If we could not expand our family naturally (I am current pregnant) we would absolutely consider adoption.

    I would be shellshocked beyond belief if he turned around and said we couldn't have another and he only agreed to it so we would get married. This is something so serious it would be grounds for annulment (We are Catholic).

    I am probably giving all the wrong advice, but as its something so close to my heart too, I would lay it on the line. I would tell my husband that our very marriage was as stake, as it would be in my case. I could accept a change in our timeline, but I could not accept his refusal to have another child and the dishonesty associated with it.

    I also do not know how I could trust him ever again. This is not game playing this is your future children. Something that is so obviously close to your heart.

    I have certainly given lousy advice but I want you to know I am thinking of you and hoping that you can come to a resolution with your husband.

    P.S. You also seem to have been very accommodating to your husbands hobbies and desires. I do not know many other women that would be able to take on all that you have and still run the house, allow DH to keep up his hobbies etc. Most fathers of newborns I know vanish into an abyss for many months.

    Thinking of you.

  8. mamimami

    grapefruit / 4120 posts

    I am so sorry you are going through this! I believe your husband will come around... Like others have said, it's so early.

    I don't have much advice except to seek counseling. From what you wrote it does seem like he's quite "me, me," but maybe that's pushing you into the same mentality? When perhaps counseling can help you move into a "we/us" mentality.

  9. Mrs. Sunglasses

    GOLD / pomelo / 5167 posts

    Oh no I am so sorry you are feeling like this. Having a child should be a happy moment in your life, and I just feel like your husband feels like he's lost his importance, that he's put on the back burner (which usually happens when you have kids) and he's being indirectly childish and unfair with you.

    I would definitely have a talk about it. Maybe go talk to someone, or couples counseling. (I'm giving this as advice but clearly I have no experience in the matter)

    I just want to say that everyone has their issues in a relationship, heck I have my share so don't feel like you are alone. BUt reaching out is a first step. Hugs sweetie. xox

  10. MrsMccarthy

    honeydew / 7295 posts

    ALL of you ladies are so wonderful and supportive. I mean it. Every one of you, even if i did not agree with everything i totally respect this group of smart ladies and I know that each one of you came from your heart. I want to respond to each of you when i have more time but first I have some good news:

    Hubby came around on another child. He told me that it does scare him to think about giving up even more than now but he realizes he made a commitment to me and our family and he knows he will love that 2nd baby so much. I promised to do whatever he needs me to to make this stuff keep him from feeling invisible. I always did but I can go the extra mile. I think we may still need some counseling to figure out his fears and my feelings of being left with the bag at times but I am giving it until after the holidays because he came around for me on this.

  11. CupQuakeWalk

    coconut / 8475 posts

    Hey honey....I don't have any advice but I wanted to let you know I have read the entire post and all of the replies. I am so here for you and I totally get why you are upset! You have every right to be.
    I am glad he is starting to come around though!!!
    Of course, I was thinking counseling the whole time I was reading, but if he won't go then....I don't know what on eath else you can do? I pray this all works out and you get your 2nd baby by next year, like you want. I hope you start TTC after New Years like he has said.
    I love ya hon...my fall mama! Please cheer up:) You have the most beautiful baby boy in the world! And DH will come around...the relationship just needs a bit of help...everybody needs some help sometimes.

  12. MrsMccarthy

    honeydew / 7295 posts

    @TurtleDoves: thank you! I feel very happy now. I don;t want to try till Tor is 2 so thats the plan. Hubby and I still have some things to work out so I wont pretend its all roses but I love him so deeply, he loves our son and he has agreed to make a second baby work so I feel a lot better about our future. I never thought of leaving him or anything but i knew that there would be a huge wedge and alot of additional difficulties between us if he prevented Tor from having a sibling.

  13. singingbee

    pomelo / 5073 posts

    @MrsMccarthy: you are too sweet. Thanks for your well wishes. I know everything will work out. I was thinking that maybe your husband was reacting in a way that mine does sometimes. Sometimes he will get worried about something and instead of talking about it, he focuses on something that is so far from what he needs to be doing. I react in a bad way, but then I realize that he just needs to have a 'moment' and then he will come around to whatever we need to be doing. Hugs!!!

  14. blackbird

    wonderful grape / 20453 posts

    I think the fact that he acknowledges that his backpedaling came from fear is a huge one. I think most of us react this way! As long as you don't push aside the issues you need to work through, I'm sure everything will work out just fine! And hopefully next time, the fears can be communicated in a better way (or you can realize that is where he is coming from).

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