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If it makes you feel better I'm doing fine at 22 months with my bum genius. They fit great and we never have leaks or rash like we used to when she was an infant. Her skin is tougher I think.

But you should post them for sale and change your stash since they aren't working! Just readjust and move on.

I have used both as well and like both. BG are still my favorite diaper hands down and I tried many brands.

The Gro Via still has PUL on it so I'm not sure why you would think the PUL on the BG is bad? Gro Via (and Rumparoos) use TPU which is essentially the same thing as PUL except how the inner laminated layer is applied to the polyester backing is done differently, which is why they feel slightly different. PUL used in most diapers is solvent bonded while TPU is heat bonded. The actual laminate on both products is exactly the same, just the process of applying it is different. Also there are some that find TPU does not last as many washes as regular solvent bound PUL just because of the nature of heat bonding and exposing the product to repeated heat (which you want in your wash cycle).

@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: I personally washed my shells every time especially since the Gro Via shell has the mesh inner and not a wipeable inner, but I still would have washed them each time though...Ragababe also lines their inner shells with fabric and I prefer to wash them each time...I don't like a PUL/TPU against the skin shell either like Flips..maybe I am picky? If you are using them as instructed that amount would probably be fine. I did see people seem to feel the Gro Via shells last longer than other TPU diapers because of the mesh lining is "protecting" the laminate from delimitation. However, in general TPU is recommended to last 80-100 washes!

ETA: I personally like a few extra diapers in case laundry doesn't get done or stuffed (mostly use pockets) so I would probably get slightly more than 12 shells if I was using a system like Gro Via full time and reusing the shells just to be safe. I would rather too many than not enough.

@aprk: where is the PUL touching his skin?? It shouldn't be touching anywhere and mine never did. The BG 4.0's right?

Ok, just going to retype a few things to consider before you jump to GroVia. I love my GroVias but there are some downsides. I would hate for you to make another investment and then realize more issues.

1. Grovia has back elastic as well. As my daughter is older (and a big belly) I think it might actually dig in more than the BG.
2. Personally, I dont love h&L or velco. The Grovia is the nice H&L but it gets really dirty and not super sticky.
3. I stuff my BG with my organic prefolds and I like the way the pockets (BG4.0) or my one flip cover holds the prefold better then how the GroVia holds the prefold.
4. GroVias are harder to add extra absorbancy to if you are using them snap in soakers. There is an extra "booster" you can put in but it adds bulk and honestly still doesn't always do the trick.
5. This is gross, but because of the wide flat shape of the BG, cleaning poo off of them is easier then the curviness of the GroVia. Its what makes the Grovia trimmer though.
6. Because the GroVia snap in soakers have PUL/TPU (I never remember the difference), I still haven't really figured out how to "strip" them. I can boil my prefolds or other inserts but not sure what to do about those.

There has been some concerns with moms that the fabric in the BG pockets can cause a rash on LOs. personally I don't think it stays that dry which causes the issue. We use disposable liners which helps.

If you have any other questions, tag me and I'll pop back over to the thread.

@aprk: haha okay! Not an idiot at all! After I asked where it was touching I thought I bet she means the suedecloth!!! It could be possible....the suedecloth is polyester so synthetic, which some LO's have trouble with and honestly even if you did a TON of research there would have been no way of knowing so DO NOT beat yourself up about it. The mesh in the Gro Via is also polyester, but if you are using the sposie insert or the natural fabric snap in insert (they have both a hemp blend and organic cotton version) the amount of polyester against the skin would be minimal or non-existent. BTW, since you seemed to like the prefolds you can certainly use them inside the Gro Via shell! You don't have to use their inserts.

You said you have some of the organic cotton lined BG AIO's? have you noticed a difference when he wears them? If you feel he is sensitive you can certainly sell your stash and I'm sure it would go quick and for a good price given the condition/age of the BG's.

ETA: you can also add a prefolds ON TOP of the suedecloth on your BG instead of stuffing the pockets with the microfiber (which should never touch babies skin)...if you have extra prefolds around (or get some since they are cheap) it would be a good way to "test" out the theory that the suedecloth is bothering LO without having to make another investment first. And for what is is worth DS is super sensitive and we could only use water to wash his bum, but we never had an issue with the material the diapers were made from against his skin and we have several different inners.

@aprk: if your BG are in good condition and you want to move on, sell them. The resale value is crazy good. I'm a member of a bg buy/sell/trade page and most diapers sell for 90%ish of original value, obviously you'd have to pay shipping so you'd lose some $ there but not a whole lot.

@aprk: I think you are a fitted/prefold + cover lover at heart based on your comments about the styles you tried.

@aprk: They do take a while, but unless it's late spring or summer we throw them in the dryer. And we have enough that we can wash every other day with a few left over. And older babies don't go through diapers as quickly.

@Mrs. Lemon-Lime: I know you didn't ask me, but my favorites are BG, Rumparoos and Ragababe.

We didn't use newborns with DS (started cloth full time at 3 weeks when his umbilical stump fell off), but if you are going with pocket diapers I would suggest Rumparoos since they have a 4th row of rise snaps you can make the diapers super small and they will fit most babies from birth plus they will grow with the baby...we could have easily used ours with DS. They do make NB specific diapers, but I think one of the benefits of cloth is the cost savings and getting a stash of diapers that only works for such a short period sort of defeats the savings for me. That said we may do a rental or flats and covers with this baby for the NB phase but I do have a RaR stash that will also work.

@aprk: I'd just de-stash and get what you like! I know lots of mommas that would love the BG! Tbh, we didn't even try them (went with Sunbaby pockets that have been awesome) and are re-building a stash of wahm fitteds right now ( I seriously LOVE them!)