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I shouldn't be awake or on HB since I have a phone interview tomorrow morning @ 9:30, then a in person at 11:45. Whhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy an I awake.
O, also spotting. This is my first ovulation spotting I think since Femara. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
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@LAZB: I was just teasing
you since I wrote TO you and you popped on and responded to, like, 5 other board members and skipped over me. I thought it was funny.
As for my 10-lbs gain, I believe it is a culmination of factors - water retention (* I take hydrochlorothiazide for edema) which is so bad I can't twirl my rings -
@yellowbeach: Love the chart.
@Sams Mom: Good luck today! I hope you got some sleep eventually.
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So I had a crazy dream last night that I had taken my temperature and it was tracking down. I almost didnโt temp this morning when I woke up because I thought I already had... ๐ Trying again is getting in my head. But, thankfully I did because my temp is all the way up to 99 degrees... I feel fine, so I donโt think itโs illness related, but I guess weโll see how high it goes. ๐คทโโ๏ธ Chart below (I discarded my low temp from a couple days ago for my sanity.)
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@karenbme: Thank you! (* I do worry about offending-- Perhaps, too much at times. ๐คฃ)
I think, from different articles I have read in the past, that unless you have a tubal defect (* a twist/crimp in the tube, uterine tissue growing in the tube, a long tube, etc), both of your EPs occured simply "by chance." Sometimes, if an overly mature slow-moving egg is fertilized too quickly or too far up the tube, it will [typically] implant within a tube (or at the connective base of the tube where it meets the uterus). It could be that 2x, this happened to you ๐คทโโ๏ธ. In that case, it was a mix of variables (ova maturity, speed, and place of fertilization) and was only episodic through "chance" that it occured more than once ... change ANY of the variables, and it would not occur again. Since each cycle touts difference in hormones, egg quality, # of ova ovulated, and speed of movement; one may infer that your chance for a 3rd EP is extremely low (albeit not completely impossible). Besides, they say the 3rd time is the charm so, perhaps, the third BFP will be your "lucky" -
@Sams Mom: I am so glad you were able to BD
today with your phone interview and your tete-a-tete! ๐ค
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@fuzzypeaches: Thank you! I believe my fear of testing kicked in the moment my OSOM was white.
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@Kaohinani: Yeah, there arenโt a lot of studies out there of patients with more than one ectopic because of how rare it is. This https://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(16)48322-6/pdf is the largest Iโve found, but came before MTX, so also doesnโt really apply to me. My doctorโs comment was specific to IF another embryo went down the same tube given the damage thatโs likely from two EPs including one that grew to a little more than 2.5 inches. My tubes did pass the dye test a few months ago, so there isnโt a physical barrier, but who knows.
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@yellowbeach: I. LOVE. THAT. CHART! ๐ค
Thank you for humoring my nerdy side!
The rate for the half-life of an HCG trigger is between 24 and 33 hours (according to studies and what is stated by the pharmaceutical company that manufactures Ovidrel). Factors in the rate of half-life include, but are not limited to, the amount (IU) of the trigger, how fast an individual metabolizes rHCG, and the amount of naturally occurring HCG in the woman's system prior to both the trigger and any pregnancy. So, with those factors in mind; both you and I took Ovidrel 250 (* which is 6500-IU); however, you may have a slower hormonal or medicinal metabolism, as well as, your naturally occurring HCG levels are higher than mine (you can trigger a pos FRER even when not BFP and I can't). It makes sense that I am now devoid of rHCG (10 dpt with nothing) while your levels are still going strong. 11-13 dpt makes perfect sense! -
@karenbme: Did your RE afford you any percentage to the chance an EP could, potentially, occur a third time? Even if the numbers are not exact, a .33% chance is better than 1%, and 1% is much better than a 5% chance out of the 15-20% a woman will conceive in any given month! I hope there was no tangible damage and it will be smooth sailing for any eggies. ๐ค
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โข 3/4 - Drackomalfoy
โข 3/6 - Jessiemuller88 - :
: (Thinking of her)
โข 3/12 - FuzzyPeaches
โข 3/19 - Paranundrum
โข 3/19 - Kaohinani
โข 3/19 - Yellowbeach
โข 3/20 - Ms.Hangry
โข 3/20 - Karenbeme
โข 3/24 - Bees_knees
โข 3/25 - Sam's Mom
โข 3/28 - Blythe
โข 3/28 - BreakOutTheIceCream - :
: - (November mama)
โข 3/29 - JennyLayneAZ
โข TBD:
โข No POAS date:
โข Drop-In BFP: BunBun - : : - (November mama)
โข Drop-In BFP: Chuckles - : : - (November mama) Good luck, ladies!
โข BhBee
โข Lazb
โข MrsJBeeG* For any of you ladies who receive a "BFP," Adira had set up a Nov 2019 Mommy board a bit ago. (Please note, the December 2019 Mama's board will be set up a bit later this month):
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@Kaohinani: the RE didnโt throw out a number after checking my tubes, and Iโm guessing my OB probably didnโt expect me to remember the number, but Iโm a numbers person so if you say a number Iโm going to remember it. If I didnโt think there was a chance for this to work naturally weโd be doing IVF right now, but itโs just always a worry... โIs that cyst pain that Iโm having or another EP?โ And like counting out the days for when I might be having surgery (because Iโm not doing MTX again.) My temp dip at 5 dpo certainly didnโt help either.
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11 dpt, 8/9 dpo -
Crampy, constipated and gassy
BBT increased a bit this morning.
(* chart below)
@Sams Mom: If TD let's me keep this temp ... I could be heading towards "triphasic," just as you predicted! ๐ค
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@fuzzypeaches: Totally agree that you miss out on a lot for what ifs during a drawn out process like this. Whether itโs because you might not be able to go or you just donโt have the energy to make it happen. I feel like Iโm just now, almost 2 years in, starting to take care of myself again, and Iโm totally excited to either hike or ride cable cars through the alps.
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@Kaohinani: That chart looks fantastic!!
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@karenbme: Well, if it helps, just know that everyone on here is your cheerleader and hopes that you receive a BFP with a sticky pregnancy (* which "sticks" in the correct spot!).
P.S. Thanks! My chart nearly always looks decent at this point ... give me 5 or 6 days and we will see if I am still holding strong with high temps. ๐คฃ๐ค -
Good morning ladies - I think DD is still on Pre-Daylight Savings bc sheโs still sleeping late.
AFM, I tested triggers this morning and itโs almost gone from the OSOM but still a firm line on the FRER. Temp went back up. Was wondering why/how the big dip since itโs mainly my progesterone shits controlling my temp.
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@Kaohinani: Thanks.
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@yellowbeach: Looking fantastic! The trigger is eeking out and, no later than 10 dpt, you will have a white FRER ... unless you end up with your sticky bubs!
A dip is caused by a temporary 2ndary E2 surge post ovulation which is exchanged for a 2ndary P4 surge hours to days later. The 2ndary E2 surge helps stimulate the corpus luteum to take over some of P4 production (to keep it elevated for a possible pregnancy) AND to help thicken the uterine lining further. This shift can be seen on charts from women taking synthetic P4 since the synthetic is only being added to natural levels of P4. (The E2 causes the drop and the P4 causes the rise.) Temps may also be significantly higher in women on synthetic P4 due to the increased [collective] amounts of progesterone in the LP.
(* I do realize that you probably know all of this, but I am a huge nerd ๐ค and get all kinds of excited sharing fertility and reproductive info .... you should have heard "the talk" DD and I had! -
Here to cheer everyone on! DD1 was conceived 3/15 and I found out 3/29, literally the day before closing down the March POAS board and moving onto April
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@graceandjoy: Welcome to our crazy bunch! We appreciate every cheerleader we can get!
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@graceandjoy: Thank you, GraceandJoy! (We love our "cheerleaders" on here!
) Also, what a spectacular story you shared! -
โข 3/4 - Drackomalfoy
โข 3/6 - Jessiemuller88 - : : (Thinking of her)
โข 3/12 - FuzzyPeaches
โข 3/19 - Paranundrum
โข 3/19 - Kaohinani
โข 3/19 - Yellowbeach
โข 3/20 - Ms.Hangry
โข 3/20 - Karenbeme
โข 3/24 - Bees_knees
โข 3/25 - Sam's Mom
โข 3/28 - Blythe
โข 3/28 - BreakOutTheIceCream - : : - (November mama)
โข 3/29 - JennyLayneAZ
โข TBD:
โข No POAS date:
โข Drop-In BFP: BunBun - : : - (November mama)
โข Drop-In BFP: Chuckles - : : - (November mama) Good luck, ladies!
โข BhBee
โข Lazb
โข MrsJBeeG
โข GraceandJoy* For any of you ladies who receive a "BFP," Adira had set up a Nov 2019 Mommy board a bit ago. (Please note, the December 2019 Mama's board will be set up a bit later this month):
http://boards.hellobee.com/topic/november-2019-mamas#post-2873473 -
Shortest interview ever! 8 minute phone interview, that I think went well?
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Yes, I guess it went well, they called me back 2 minutes later for an in person interview. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
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@Sams Mom: Woohoo!
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@Sams Mom: Yay!
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@Sams Mom: Congrats!!
Hey ladies, sorry I've been so quiet. We've actually decided we're going to TTA this month (uh, by using the pull out method lol), but since I'm not on BC and we're not using condoms, I'll still be POAS by the end of the month if AF doesn't show. So I'm just over here in limbo...
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It is insane how wildly different the same job title varies between offices/clinics. This surgery med sec is intense! The doctor sees mostly breast cancer patients. So I schedule them through all the steps of treatment, coordinate OR and plastic surgeon if she ops for immediate reconstruction. It's intense.
But I also received the email link for references for a different job I interviewed for at this hospital.
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@Sams Mom: Congrats on the good interview and the reference request! Both good signs! Scheduling for breast cancer sounds like it would be really intense, but could also be super rewarding if the success rate is high (and super depressing if it's not).
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@JennyLayneAZ: Limbo is the worst... Hopefully you get the outcome you're looking for at the end of the month!
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@Sams Mom: If you get an offer, I would go for the job working as the surgery med sec! Sounds so rewarding and you are still within the confines of [primarily] treating women. Both my stepmother and my aunt had breast cancer. (My stepmom had 3 bouts with it and has been in remission for 7 years!) Both my stepmother really appreciated the kind staff (including the treating physician, PAs, nurses, scheduling staff, and receptionists) who helped her through her progression and remission. It takes a sweet person with patience for those who are ill and the ability to multitask to succeed... I think you would do well!
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@Kaohinani: I told them I've seen it from the other side since I've had a couple aunt's and close family friends go through it, and know how much they appreciated the staff. The doctor and PA seemed really nice too.
Inadvertantly found out the maternity leave (at least for PAs) because she is due in 3 weeks and will be out April & May, back in June.
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@Sams Mom: Wow, not terribly shabby for ML. Many places only offer 4-6 week! 9 weeks or better is decent (especially after a c-section!).
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2 offers!!! She's (HR) checking on a 3rd
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@Sams Mom: Woohoo!!
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@karenbme: one is one in less excited about the other is the med sec for the surgeon that I literally interviewed for 3 hours ago. The third one is the one I'm unsure of.
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@Sams Mom: Congrats!!
@karenbme: Thanks! Of course if I were to get pregnant this month, that would be wonderful as well. (hence the non method of bc we're using)
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@Sams Mom: OMG! I am soooooooo excited for you!
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@Sams Mom: Thatโs amazing that they made an offer on the surgeon job that quickly! I canโt tell from what youโve posted if you really want that job, but hopefully wherever you wind up makes you happy and pays you decently!
today with your phone interview and your tete-a-tete! ๐ค
: (Thinking of her)
: - (November mama)
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