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Mom gets citation for 3 yr olds public pee!

  1. irene

    nectarine / 2964 posts

    @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: @Purpledaisy: @Foodnerd81: You all are TRULY ok with people peeing in the pool?! I mean, I understand there's chlorine but it is other people's PEE and I don't know about you but I do accidentally drink pool water... I feel like THAT would be more deserving of a ticket from a cop - at least I have the choice of not stepping onto strange puddles of "water" outside of a gas station. 😂

    If peeing in the pool is so OK, why do pools like the Y have to close up when some kids puke in the pool?! Gosh, I understand this is another topic but I can not wrap my head around this information.

  2. Mrs. Lemon-Lime

    wonderful pea / 17279 posts

    @irene: Haha, I mean I was cool with my kid’s pee and then 20 minutes later when I did the same thing. my mom doesn’t swim or use her pool so she was spared. LOL

    It’s so common that people pee in the pool or ocean that when you go you already know you’re basically relaxing in a urinal. I’m not sure why poop and puke is where pool sanitation draws a line because surely there is pee in there.

  3. DesertDreams88

    grapefruit / 4361 posts

    @irene: pee is basically sterile (??) and poop and vomit are def not. Pee is mostly water (91-96%). Soooo... no big deal to me.

    Straight from wikipedia bc I think it's interesting and relevant:
    "Urine has a role in the earth's nitrogen cycle. In balanced ecosystems urine fertilizes the soil and thus helps plants to grow. Therefore, urine can be used as a fertilizer. Some animals use it to mark their territories. Historically, aged or fermented urine (known as lant) was also used for gunpowder production, household cleaning, tanning of leather and dyeing of textiles."

  4. Purpledaisy

    nectarine / 2972 posts

    @irene: LOL well I’m not “ok” with people peeing in the pool... I’m just realistic😂 I try not to think about it😂

  5. lilyofthewest

    pear / 1697 posts

    I've had two instances where I let/encouraged my 3-year-old pee outside in a fairly public place. He'd been toilet trained for over a year but was in this control phase where he would refuse to go until it was desperate. We had a span of a few months where he would always freak out desperate for the loo on the way home from daycare. Usually I could talk him through holding it until we could get home or some place with a toilet. But twice it was absolutely clear he wasn't going to make it and there wasn't enough time to wash and drip dry the carseat before we would have to drive again so...

  6. erinbaderin

    pomelo / 5543 posts

    Honestly, I’m fine with people peeing in the pool. I’d also be fine with what @Anagram: posted about a mom rinsing out pants upstream. I don’t think there’s anything in pee that isn’t already in the water.

  7. Petitduck

    kiwi / 624 posts

    @erinbaderin: same. I was actually surprised by people having any issue with pee at all. If it’s going in some plants or on a tree at the park and outt of the way of main play idont see the issue at all.

    As an adult with an overactive bladder I have had to pee outside, embarrassingly, a few times). I think three times in my adult life where it wasn’t a road trip and if I didn’t pee somewhere I would have peed in my pants and wouldn’t have been able to change for a while. I tried to find the most secluded spot possible. It’s a point of high stress for me, bathroom locations, and if I want to avoid peeing on the side of a road for a road trip then I have to avoid drinking anything at all and that isn’t healthy. I’m constantly trying to time my liquid consumption with outings with my children to the park and it irritates me to no end that they don’t just put a porta potty near every park. There would be at least one kid and one parent who would very mich appreciate that.

    And, my kid is 3.5 and really had to pee the other day on the highway. We pulled over and did it. She absolutely couldn’t wait. She has been potty trained for a year and it was only a half an hour drive. I have to hold her to pee outside though. She doesn’t know how to squat and pee and I haven’t taught her so she’s shielded by my entire body basically. I can vividly remember my mother holding me outside so I could pee in a bush when I was little. I don’t think most people with a small exception, encourage their children to engage in public urination, but it’s just a necessity. I think it’s sad that there is any kind of chastising for children or parents of young children in the case of a clear necessity. Im not going to tell my kid to pee in their pants or pee in their car seat, that just seems so stupid to me. I get it, people feel differently, but it just seems like such a step back for toilet training and body respect. We did do pull ups for a few drives when she was first training and said it was okay for her to pee in them but she didn’t.

  8. Petitduck

    kiwi / 624 posts

    @DesertDreams88: I always remember this. Maybe I have worked with kids and been around them so long that pee is a non issue to me. It just seems like water. I mean, I’ll clean it up and I don’t really want it on me or to drink it or anything, but it’s not Poo or vomit, which I have a harder time dealing with!

  9. periwinklebee

    grapefruit / 4462 posts

    Not a big deal to me in this context. But I really wish we could have these public pee hating police officers come to the subway and do something about people peeing constantly in the elevator. There's always a puddle of pee there, and the bathroom is *right next to the elevator* and functional. It always reeks of some very strong combination of pee and pot. City life problems

  10. Anagram

    eggplant / 11707 posts

    @Petitduck: I think you are overestimating the general public. =) You are thinking that because you would go to a secluded area and pee, that others would do the same. But that's not always the case. Like the story I told about the boys in the park in my town--During the day, it can be full with anywhere from 15-30 kids and adults, because there are daycares nearby that come to that park. These are the trees the boys were peeing on. There is also a restroom (usually kind of gross, but having girls, I have had to use it) in this park.

    You can see it's not a grass, secluded, or far-away-from-play area. You have a lot of toddlers that sit in the tree wells and play right in there where the boys were peeing.



  11. Anagram

    eggplant / 11707 posts

    @erinbaderin: So knowing that other people don't feel the same way about random people's pee--would you still rinse out peed-on pants in a fountain that kids were actively playing in, before you came there with the pants? Or would you take them home?

    I'm totally not attacking you at all, just trying to understand that lady's thought process. Like at home, when my kiddo is having a huge tantrum and screaming, I personally am find ignoring it if I've already tried other solutions. If she screams for 30 minutes over a broken banana, I just let her do her thing. But I realize that in public, a screaming child is probably not okay with everyone else there, so I remove her. Because I realize that just because I'm okay with something, it doesn't mean everyone is, you know?

  12. graceandjoy

    pear / 1565 posts

    Haha I am loving this thread! I've always figured that people pee in the pool. I personally was told never to, I don't remember if I did it though as a kid I teach my oldest to never pee in the pool either, but who knows

    But agreeing with @DesertDreams88: I am not that worried about actual pee as she said it's mostly water and mostly sterile.

  13. Foodnerd81

    wonderful cherry / 21504 posts

    @graceandjoy: I can definitely remember peeing in the pool as I got a little older (like middle school) even though I was taught not to.

  14. Petitduck

    kiwi / 624 posts

    @Anagram: haha. I guess so. I like to think highly, but also often have my hopes dashed.

    Is that fake grass? That’s definitely not the kind of tree my kid has peed behind... that is weird and gross.

    @graceandjoy: I don’t remember when I found out you weren’t supposed to pee in pool, but I was older too and I feel like the only reason I stopped was because I heard that rumour about the pool going purple or changing colour if you peed and then everyone would know and I got scared! Haha. I tell my kid not to pee in the bath or pool. She gets out of the bath, but a few weeks ago she didn’t and just told me she was peeing in there with her younger brother... while they were both drinking the water. Weirdos.

  15. graceandjoy

    pear / 1565 posts

    @Petitduck: Hahah I am totaling using that!!

  16. Petitduck

    kiwi / 624 posts

    @graceandjoy: Urban legend...among children!

  17. Anagram

    eggplant / 11707 posts

    @Petitduck: There's no grass at all--it's green-painted playground surface stuff. I don't know what it's called, but it's kind of rubbery. And then there's a tiny bit of dirt around each tree. haha.

  18. irene

    nectarine / 2964 posts

    @Petitduck: That "legend"!! When I told DH this morning that I just learned that "lots of people" pee in swimming pools he said, wait, aren't there chemical components where the water changes color if you pee and they will know that you peed in the pool ?! I was like, dude I thought that was a portion of an Adam Sandler movie?! 😂

  19. Petitduck

    kiwi / 624 posts

    @irene:

  20. maddyz

    persimmon / 1270 posts

    I worry about this sometimes... my kids pee in the park all the time.

  21. Foodnerd81

    wonderful cherry / 21504 posts

    I just had to come back here and update this thread. After all the talk about whether it’s ok to pee outside and the double standard for boys and girls... yesterday we were all playing outside with the neighbors, including a couple 7 year old boys. The boys had gotten used to peeing in the woods near the houses when they were potty training and never stopped. Well apparently they did yesterday and my 5.5 year old daughter thought it looked fun, because we look over and she is standing up and pulling up her pants and underwear. She had squated, peed, and “wiped with a leaf”. We had a good talk about how we don’t pee outside like that, and the boys shouldn’t be peeing near her either and if they started to, she should remind them. Their parents had a good talk about how they are too old to be peeing outside in front of the neighbors like that. A learning experience for all.

    But DD was so proud of herself for pointing the pee back so she didn’t get it on herself or clothes at all. I couldn’t let her see me laughing.

  22. Mrsbells

    squash / 13199 posts

    @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: totally unfair. We need a bit more compassion from our law enforcement. He we only 3 years old!

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