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Paula Deen Fired From Food Network

  1. MrsTiz

    cantaloupe / 6800 posts

    I think this was blown waaay out of proportion, but she had to know it would happen..she should have just settled out of court.

    I think if she were as racist as people are making her out to be she wouldn't have hired AA staff in the first place. She told a racial joke, she certainly isn't the first to do it. Not saying it was right, but dang.

    She makes delicious food and i've got some of her cookbooks that I love and refer to often, no comment would change that.

    *edit - I didn't read the papers, I just heard about it on the news so It could have been worse than what I heard

  2. yoursilverlining

    eggplant / 11824 posts

    @plantains: totally agree.

    I'm not excusing the use of the n word, because it's always wrong, but even worse IMO is her/the ongoing romantic racialism and nostalgia for days of inequality. Romanticism for African-Americans in positions of servitude, romanticism of a time when they were second class citizens. Very troubling.

  3. Mrsjets

    pear / 1699 posts

    @plantains: agreed. She's so ignorant.

    I think Food Network did the right thing by not renewing her contract (they didnt 'fire' her).

  4. plantains

    grapefruit / 4671 posts

    @MrsTiz: I don'tthink hiring minority staff precludes on from being racist, nor do I think racist jokes are funny.

    I actually don't think this has been blown out of proportion at all. I think there is just the right amount of stink. People who go round using the n-word need to understand that there are consequences.

    I am very glad that the world is reacting this way. I'm tired of people thinking it is okay to denigrate black people with racial slurs left right and centre. As far as I am concerned, she is reaping what she sowed, I hope she continues to do so.

  5. plantains

    grapefruit / 4671 posts

    @yoursilverlining: yes!!! Exactly. Why does anyone romanticise slavery? It makes me sick to my stomach. I can't believe people walk around saying things like this in 2013 and we are willing to give them a pass. What an awful message to pass on to our kids.

  6. MsLipGloss

    GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts

    @mediagirl: Same. Wow.

  7. mrsjazz

    coconut / 8234 posts

    @yoursilverlining: Yeah, that was the part that REALLY angered me. She seems so nostalgic for the pre-Civil War era of the South. I watched another video where she spoke about that time and was defending a certain Southern attitude. She mentioned that her great grandfather killed himself after his slaves were freed. She said he didn't know how to deal with life with no one operating his plantation--and she said losing all of his "workers." WTeffingF lady?? They were SLAVES.

    She also brought up one of her Black employees and made a joke about how he shouldn't stand in front of this dark board because he was so dark no one could see him. The audience laughed and the host of the segment looked uncomfortable.

    OK, I have to stop writing about this because I'm getting upset. A lot of people think that just because people aren't riding around wearing white pointy sheets that something isn't racist or racism. It's people like Paula Deen, the ones who say things like she said and then say they are not racist at all, these are the people who worry me the most.

  8. plantains

    grapefruit / 4671 posts

    @mrsjazz: aaaargh, just reading your entire post is making me so angry. I can't believe people take slavery and and what it did to an entire race so lightly. Communities are still dealing with the fallout today and people think it is okay to be nostalgic for those times?

    That joke about her black employee has me seeing red.

  9. Mrs. Lemon-Lime

    wonderful pea / 17279 posts

    @MrsTiz: the plantation wedding was a racist joke, recounting am event earlier in her day substituting the word "man" for "nigger" is not a joke.

    @mrsjazz: I saw that clip about the "workers" and I could not believe what I heard. Then she called up a black friend to join her on stage and joked he was hard to see standing against a dark background.

    The woman isn't funny and she isn't that old. 66! Come on she was still attending school when desegregation took place.

  10. mrsjazz

    coconut / 8234 posts

    @plantains: @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: The whole time I watched that video I kept saying, "Is she for real?" How could someone think it was okay to say that while being recorded in front of a live audience. She's totally ignorant. And I don't understand how anyone can watch that clip and not see something wrong with it. Sad.

  11. plantains

    grapefruit / 4671 posts

    @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: plus regardless of how old she is, she is a multi-millionaire living in the internet age who has been well exposed to people from all over the world from all walks of life. There is no excuse for her BS, none.

  12. Mrs. Lemon-Lime

    wonderful pea / 17279 posts

    On her Today Show interview she said she wasnt sure if the N word offended black people because she hears young people in her kitchens use it. When used as a slur its offensive! When used by other groups as a joke or mocking hip hop its offensive.

  13. MsLipGloss

    GOLD / pineapple / 12662 posts

    @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: Is there ever a time that it isn't offensive?

  14. plantains

    grapefruit / 4671 posts

    @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: she is still losing me with this BS. Just accept responsibility, apologise and move on. Stop making excuses and feigning ignorance. Ugh.

  15. meredithNYC

    pomegranate / 3314 posts

    @plantains: You're not the only one.

  16. daniellemybelle

    cantaloupe / 6669 posts

    Wow. I'm surprised and disappointed people think this is was "blown out of porportion." Read her direct quotes from the deposition. She is clearly steeped in old, racist mindsets. She was asked if she referred to black waitstaff (the ones in the bowties) as the N-word and she said, "No, because that's not what they are." This clearly reflects the attitude that it's okay to call people the N-word if they aren't a "good" black person. And don't even get me started on her comments about viewing pornography in the workplace! Her attitude is "boys will be boys." I understand she's an old lady & coming from a place of ignorance, not hate, but that doesn't make it acceptable.

    @MrsTiz: "I think if she were as racist as people are making her out to be she wouldn't have hired AA staff in the first place." Really? Racists have had black people work for them throughout the history of this country.

  17. Boheme

    papaya / 10473 posts

    They just announced on our local news station they are shutting down all the Paula Deen restaurants. We have a large one here locally and it's sad that so many people will lose their jobs. They're the ones I feel bad for.

  18. MrsSCB

    pomelo / 5257 posts

    @Mrs. Lemon-Lime: That really annoyed me this morning because it felt like she was trying to defer responsibility. I could tell she was heading in a "well, black people say it all the time!" direction and I was like, "Oh, Paula...don't go there..." I think she's trying to defend herself by saying that she used the N-word when she was held at gunpoint, but that's even worse because then it was clearly used in a derogatory manner. That word would NEVER even pop into my mind, regardless of what was happening!

  19. mrsjyw

    GOLD / wonderful apricot / 22646 posts

    I don't condone her behavior, but I don't think she should've lost her job over it.

  20. plantains

    grapefruit / 4671 posts

    @daniellemybelle: cosigned.

    Additionally, many people lose their jobs because they say stupid things. actions have consequences and people need to learn that lesson. Just ask Isaiah Washington.

  21. prettylizy

    GOLD / papaya / 10206 posts

    Ugh, this whole thing makes me sad for humanity. I don't like the N word as much as I don't like the C word. I hate that anyone uses them ever. I'm a white chick so I can't even begin to pretend I know what it's like to be profiled racially. I can say that when I hear the C word thrown around it's like a knife in the eye for me and I don't think it's ever okay. Not in a song, not in a movie to seem 'authentic'. I really don't care about Paula Dean at all. Too much butter. I don't know if this was an over reaction or not, but if it does one thing to help people realise that their actions have far reaching consequences then it was worth it. Plus she still has millions so it's not like she'll be on the street begging for food or anything.

  22. Mrs. Lemon-Lime

    wonderful pea / 17279 posts

    @MsLipGloss: My opinion on this has changed. I think no matter who uses the word and in any context it's a derogatory word.

    Growing up I was taught the word was a slur and heard it for the most part in movies and documentaries. I very rarely heard it in person and it was usually cackling, drunk adults and my parents would tell me they don't know any better. Hey you can't pick extended family or their friends.

    When I went to college I heard it more. For example when I would pass by a group of guys hanging out at the dorm or cafeteria. They would use the word same as homie or my man or friend. I felt unconfortable with how loose they were with the word, but it wasn't being used as a slur.

    I dated a guy who didn't use it, but had a sister who did. I remember hearing her curse up a storm about how men suck. She used the N word. I was sad for her that she used such an ugly, unladylike word and I was offended for the faceless guys she was talking about.

    I don't listen to uncensored rap often, but my mouth still drops at the explicit language I hear. I was offended, hurt really when a friend kept using the word when singing Snoop lyrics even after I told him that I didn't want to hear him say it.

    If I over hear it and it's between two people who genuinely say it as a substitute for friend and all of their actions -speech, hand movements seem genuine I wouldn't be offended. Otherwise, I'm sensitive (derogatory, curse word) to it or am outright offended (slur).

  23. SouthPaw

    cherry / 204 posts

    Although the punishment is steep I think that the reaction she is getting from the public and her employers is awesome (and deserved). There is outrage and disgust for her comments and people are not willing to support someone who says things like that in 2013. I don't like the N word, I don't say it and I cringe when people use it, no matter what race they are. I think it's inappropriate all around. I do not feel bad for Paula Deen AT.ALL.

  24. TemperanceBrennan

    pear / 1998 posts

    There are plenty of old white women who grew up in the same circumstances as she did that do not use that word and do not make comments about "plantations in the good 'ole days". Sure, she is a international, well-know figure. That should make it even more obvious not to do it.

  25. Sweet T

    pomelo / 5321 posts

    From what I've read, this lawsuit is actually more to do with her brother and his use of derogatory language in the work place and inappropriate sexual conduct. She is part owner in his restaurant and I really think he is letting her take the fall for his mistakes. Also, I've seen a lot of people say she admits to making racial jokes. She didn't say that. She admitted to using the N-word back in the 80s regarding the bank robber. She said some people make racial jokes but that she didn't tell those kinds of jokes.

    Just reiterating that I don't condone the behavior, but I do think this situation is being really misconstrued by the media and blown out of proportion because of that.

  26. irene

    nectarine / 2964 posts

    Quoting @deerylou: "And her alleged statement, "Well, what I would really like is a bunch of little "n-words" to wear long-sleeve white shirts, black shorts and black bow", when referring to the wait staff at her brother's "plantation themed" wedding, occurred in 2007. "

    I am not familiar with what actually happened, but personally I can not stand Paula Deen. I watched her only once on a Bobby Flay show where he competes with Paula Deen in making a Southern dish or something. She is so loud and can not lose. Just annoying. I actually don't quite understand why she is famous.

    But anyway, even if she didn't use the n word, the idea she has is just wrong: "what I would really like is a bunch of little black people wearing long-sleeve white shirts, black shorts and black bow" ..... sorry but to me that idea is quite racist. So her guests should be all white to complete the plantation theme? I don't know.

    I still wish her well, but I don't care seeing her on the TV anymore.

  27. Mrs. Lemon-Lime

    wonderful pea / 17279 posts

    @plantains: For a while I was on the fence about whether she should lose her business contracts and endorsenent deals, but her PR campaign sealed it for me. I am happy companies are severing ties with her.

    @Sweet T: I read the deposition and have seen some media coverage. From the coverage I have seen I don't think the media misconstrued what Paula Deen has said. She is getting the brunt of the hostility because she is famous and well-known and her brother is not. FWIW I consider the joke on the taped interview regarding the guy being as dark as the wall as a racist joke.

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