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  1. Modern Daisy

    grapefruit / 4187 posts

    Haha I'm not a trump supporter but what you are all saying is exactly how I felt about Obama in 2008! A corrupt politician with no experience that the media totally treated with kid gloves and basically elected. The media is working against trump as hard as possible now and he is still doing great! I'm just sitting back with a bag of popcorn laughing at how this all plays out.

  2. Applesandbananas

    pomegranate / 3845 posts

    Round 2 of SC and NV and now I'm outright enraged.

    I hope with the media frenzy around Trump being the likely nominee, Carson, Kasich, and Cruz drop out. I think that's the only way to prevent Trump from winning. I also hope this brings out the anti-Trump voters in droves!

  3. ShootingStar

    coconut / 8472 posts

    I don't know who scares me more - Cruz or Trump. Where are these supporters coming from? How is there this much human disgustingness in our country? Xenophobic, Homophobic, anti-women, anti-science, ugh. The republican party should be ashamed of itself.

    And I HATE the electoral college. Voting is one of our most important rights and nearly everyone in this country takes it for granted because of the electoral college. Swing states should not decide elections.

  4. lovehoneybee

    GOLD / wonderful pea / 17697 posts

    @HLK208: I think I'm more concerned about how HRC would fare against Trump.

    http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency

    I really thought it started as a joke (and maybe it did). I'm still blinking over how well he's doing. I have trouble seeing how anyone can beat him for the nomination...he's a juggernaut. It's been really fascinating (though terrifying) to watch.

  5. Applesandbananas

    pomegranate / 3845 posts

    @ShootingStar: Cruz makes my skin crawl and I say that as a Republican. I like Rubio and Kasich, but clearly I'm in the minority of Republicans!

  6. HLK208

    pineapple / 12234 posts

    @lovehoneybee: super interesting! That gives me hope. I can't even imagine Sanders giving into Trumps' BS whereas Clinton will.

  7. lawbee11

    GOLD / watermelon / 14076 posts

    @ShootingStar: Cruz scares me more because at least Trump isn't a religious zealot. But he is a racist and misogynist and xenophobe so who the hell knows...

  8. plantains

    grapefruit / 4671 posts

    I am not really for HRC but I think when it comes down to it she would do fine against Trump mostly because her baggage is out there. None of it is news and it has been sensationalized for so long that it has lost the bite it used to have.

    IMO, with Bernie people are underestimating just how anti-socialist people are in this country.

  9. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @plantains: Yeah, I actually would've through HRC would do just fine against Trump.

    Honestly, I just keep hoping that people will get out and vote for anyone BESIDES Trump if it comes down to it, even if that means voting for HRC...

    ETA: Also, that article links to another one about how Bernie does better against Trump than Hillary does, but Hillary STILL does better than Trump.

  10. youboots

    honeydew / 7622 posts

    I don't think someone who has had their own reality show should be in office. I think this is a symptom of our celebrity worship snappy one line culture.

    I may not end up voting. I am extremely left on social issues but am firmly fiscally consertive so I could swing either way. I'm not getting too fired up or doing a ton of research until the final tickets have emerged.

  11. Adira

    wonderful pomelo / 30692 posts

    @youboots: History has shown that Democrats tend to be more fiscally responsible than Republicans, if that is something that's important to you.

    http://www.salon.com/2015/05/05/the_ludicrous_myth_of_republican_fiscal_responsibility_a_history_lesson_for_the_modern_gop/

  12. avivoca

    watermelon / 14467 posts

    @youboots: I hope you will vote anyway. My state has a terrible governor now because 2/3 of our citizens didn't vote because they didn't like either guy.

  13. Mrs. Blue

    blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts

    @Applesandbananas: What's crazy about your statement a few days ago about being surprised by how many people supported Trump on your FB post is that I'm from Texas, I'm a Republican, and I don't know ANYONE in person who supports Trump and my newsfeed is full of Republicans saying how awful he is. I truly don't get it. The only thing I can come up with is that a bunch of people who never vote are suddenly coming out to vote for him or something.

  14. Applesandbananas

    pomegranate / 3845 posts

    @Mrs. Blue: Trump has a lot of support from folks without college degrees and "angry white folks" and that seems to ring true from what I've seen.

  15. Mrs. Blue

    blogger / pomelo / 5361 posts

    @Applesandbananas: I'm angry and white but just angry at people voting for Trump.

  16. Applesandbananas

    pomegranate / 3845 posts

    @Mrs. Blue: ditto

  17. skipra

    pomegranate / 3350 posts

    @Mrs. Blue: ha exactly what you said!

    This whole Trump fiasco really makes my blood boil. Do people not see what a racist @$$#^&* he is or do they agree? It is really scary the things he wants to do to certain groups of people. The thought that a majority of people agree with him is so so scary. Like I am having nightmares about it. It is like knowing about a catastrophic train wreck in advance but being unable to do anything.

  18. hb3233

    cherry / 229 posts

    On a related note, one of the best predictors of supporting Trump is taking an "authoritarian" approach to parenting - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/01/how-your-parenting-style-predicts-whether-you-support-donald-trump/

    Those with authoritarian views on raising children had nearly 50-50 odds of supporting Trump. Clearly it's just a correlation, doesn't mean its causal, but it's interesting.

    In college I took an anthropology class where the professor's research had measured the extent to which the local German fairytales historically emphasized obedience. There was some pretty extreme stuff, like the child in the fairytale gets cut into a thousand pieces when they don't obey. And she found that support for Hitler came primarily from the regions with more authoritarian fairytales.

  19. honeybear

    nectarine / 2085 posts

    @Adira: That article leaves out and minimizes some very salient points to reach its conclusion. First, I don't know any conservatives who consider Bush "fiscally responsible," so saying that he wasn't is just stating the obvious as far as most people are concerned. Second, Clinton presided over the dot-com boom, aka the time of "irrational exuberance." His fiscal policies were not the reason that happened, but the fact that it did massively buoyed tax revenues during his terms in office and led to his not having a deficit.

    Also, with the exception of Clinton, every president since the 1950s has run a deficit. Half of them were Democrats. Rather a selective reading of history over there at Salon, I think.

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